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If you had to keep one SE change…? — Page 3

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Quick, someone write a PM to suspiciouscoffe and have him edit out the “at least” of the first post.

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Lord Starfish said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeffgale26 said:

One CGI shot of the millenium Falcon leaving Mos Eisly at takeoff.
Recomposited effects shots w/o black lines.
Afew of the cloud city open spaces.
And alien languages on the power core of the death Star.
Bobba Fett’s ship following the millenium Falcon to cloud city.
And maybe Lucas’ Wampa costume scene’s.
But other than that, I’d. Prefer to hear Bobba Fett’s original voice again.
And The emperor’s hologram from Empire.
Anakin’s eye color being changed to hazel in ROTJ, for the sake of continuity.
And a new special edition change.
Vader throwing Rick Macullum in the reactor core.
And nothing else.

“One” change is a difficult concept, I see.

Well the question was “Which SE change do you hate the least”, and the suggested scenario was that we were forced to keep one… Unlike this thread’s evil clone, there’s nothing about this scenario that prevents one from keeping more than one change, is there?

Other than the parameters laid out by the OP?

As was recently mentioned in another thread, words mean things.

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He said Disney had to keep at least one change. Then he asked which would be the least offensive to you.

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Frank your Majesty said:

They are not all shit, only about 95% of them.

Actually, I would say that the majority of them are not shit. The majority really are subtle little things like removal of matte lines, cleaned up effects, subtle enhancements like the Cloud City Windows, continuity fixes, etc. If that was all the Special Editions were I would be all for them, but the minority of changes that are big and noticeable are unfortunately so bad that they simply can’t be ignored.

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If you count every matte line as one change, then yes.

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Even if you don’t, I still think the good or neutral outweighs the bad in terms of sheer numbers. But the problem isn’t the numbers, it’s that when it’s bad, it’s bad.

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Density said:

Frank your Majesty said:

They are not all shit, only about 95% of them.

Actually, I would say that the majority of them are not shit. The majority really are subtle little things like removal of matte lines, cleaned up effects, subtle enhancements like the Cloud City Windows, continuity fixes, etc. If that was all the Special Editions were I would be all for them, but the minority of changes that are big and noticeable are unfortunately so bad that they simply can’t be ignored.

Well, no. Not at all. I don’t remember any removed matte line in the whole trilogy. If you mean garbage mattes, only a few of them were removed, some of them were actually made MORE visible. Removing walls of Cloud City corridors and replacing them with CG environment is not my definition of “subtle”. Continuity fixes? Where? I only know about new continuity errors which were created for each new version.

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pittrek said:

Density said:

Frank your Majesty said:

They are not all shit, only about 95% of them.

Actually, I would say that the majority of them are not shit. The majority really are subtle little things like removal of matte lines, cleaned up effects, subtle enhancements like the Cloud City Windows, continuity fixes, etc. If that was all the Special Editions were I would be all for them, but the minority of changes that are big and noticeable are unfortunately so bad that they simply can’t be ignored.

Well, no. Not at all. I don’t remember any removed matte line in the whole trilogy. If you mean garbage mattes, only a few of them were removed, some of them were actually made MORE visible. Removing walls of Cloud City corridors and replacing them with CG environment is not my definition of “subtle”. Continuity fixes? Where? I only know about new continuity errors which were created for each new version.

Watch the rancor scene, for one. It’s night and day. Some major fixes in the Battle of Hoth scene too. I’m sure there’s a full list somewhere and it is long. And that’s great, you don’t agree with the actual definition of subtle (it is not obviously CGI and blends in nicely). No one cares. Good thing is it’s true whether you believe it or not. Continuity fixes as in at least now the Emperor is the same guy who plays the Emperor in all the other movies, not some old woman with chimp eyes.

I love the originals, I grew up with them, I will always prefer them, and I agree that all the most infamous changes are awful. But I’m also objective enough to admit when something is legitimately an improvement. I don’t care; I’d rather see the movies as they originally were warts and all. But that doesn’t mean that every change is terrible just because it is a change.

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Jabba The Hutt Scene From A New Hope.

Use the force, move the Jedi Rocks.

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James Earl Jones being added to the credits.

Edit: I should also mention the “A New Hope” crawl, even though it technically wasn’t an SE change because it was added in 1981. However, I strongly believe the pre-ANH version of Star Wars should be released as well because that’s the least they can do if they won’t release all of the movies in their unaltered forms, because Star Wars is the first movie in the saga, which makes it the most important.

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ANH: Hall full of stormtroopers
ESB: Fix the visible arm
ROTJ: Removing the rope from Han’s feet
All of these can be done while keeping GOUT sync.

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SW - Redone Alderaan explosion
ESB - Ian McDiarmid as The Emperor
ROTJ - Victory Celebration

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Fixing the Landspeeder shot which i also agree with Lucas on, but none of the other changes. Beyond restoring the sound and picture. Or removing garbage mattes or matte lines.

I think they went too far with some of the re-composited effects. And i dislike that they zoomed in the picture in Empire Strikes Back on the Millennium Falcon. Fixing the disappearing Snow Speeder was fine though. The transparency was always horrible.

Or when they fixed the shot of Luke swinging at Palpatine in Return of the Jedi that also was a good change. Misaligned rotoscope on lightsabers is forgivable because it is not revisionist imho.