Ideas and Suggestions for :Star Trek The Motion Picture (True Fan Edit) — Page 6

So, are you going to be sourcing the final edit from the blu-ray, or just elements? For some reason it looks like the coloring is better on the blu...

doubleofive said:

So, are you going to be sourcing the final edit from the blu-ray, or just elements? For some reason it looks like the coloring is better on the blu...

I would if the version on Blu-ray was the director's cut. I want most of the director's cut effect changes in this edit. The Vulcan and San Francisco shots, The first attacks by V'ger, The Wormhole, The walk over to V'ger, The V'ger CGI fly-by, and stuff like that. Yes, I had to put  the wormhole scene back in due to impassable story continuity problems. I had to have Decker and Kirk have that conflict with the phaser order, and then half of the scene in Kirk's quarters. It's just way too important. The wormhole and quarters scene is cut down a great deal to make them move along faster, yet they still convey the important plot points, and character interaction.  The entire segment with the Vulcan warp shuttle is removed at this point. Spock enters the bridge to the shock of everyone just before the ship leaves drydock. With the dialog I put in place just before this shot, it comes across as if Spock was in the last group of crew to beam aboard.  The pajama party on the rec deck is out.  I re-edited the footage of the Epsilon-9 transmissions, and then I just superimposed the rec-deck view screen images on to the bridge view screen. I took reaction shots of the bridge crew from the scenes I am cutting on the travel into V'ger. You guys would not believe how well this worked out. 

FanFiltration said:

doubleofive said:

So, are you going to be sourcing the final edit from the blu-ray, or just elements? For some reason it looks like the coloring is better on the blu...

I would if the version on Blu-ray was the director's cut. I want most of the director's cut effect changes in this edit. The Vulcan and San Francisco shots, The first attacks by V'ger, The Wormhole, The walk over to V'ger, The V'ger CGI fly-by, and stuff like that. Yes, I had to put  the wormhole scene back in due to impassable story continuity problems. I had to have Decker and Kirk have that conflict with the phaser order, and then half of the scene in Kirk's quarters. It's just way too important. The wormhole and quarters scene is cut down a great deal to make them move along faster, yet they still convey the important plot points, and character interaction.  

Sorry you couldn't get around the wormhole.  I wish they could have found a different way to have a conflict, instead of having this completely random wormhole and asteroid going at warp speed.  I guess its alright because it doesn't go on as long.

Sound effects, I need some... Can anyone help?

I need bridge sound effects from the films. Anyone know where these can be found? I have the T.V. effects CD...

FanFiltration said:

Sound effects, I need some... Can anyone help?

I need bridge sound effects from the films. Anyone know where these can be found? I have the T.V. effects CD...

Sorry, I only have the TV effects CD as well.  Is there no dead silent scene in this movie on the bridge you can't replicate the sound out of?

doubleofive said:

FanFiltration said:

Sound effects, I need some... Can anyone help?

I need bridge sound effects from the films. Anyone know where these can be found? I have the T.V. effects CD...

Sorry, I only have the TV effects CD as well.  Is there no dead silent scene in this movie on the bridge you can't replicate the sound out of?

I found it!  It's on the "Generations" Soundtrack. I forgot all about this disk.

Track 16: Enterprise B Bridge. 

I tried to import isolated sounds from the film, but there is some really bad background hiss on this film. When I try to overlap sustained background effect sounds (atmosphere), the hiss is very noticeable. I want the sound to be excellent, so taking sounds off a digital cd is best. If I try and mix the old T.V. bridge with the Enterprise B effects, that may be interesting.

Maybe one of the older PC games like Starfleet Academy would have the sound FX you need?

Yet another idea, Majel Barrett needs to be to ship's computer voice. It's a tradition TMP broke with.

FanFiltration said:

doubleofive said:

FanFiltration said:

Sound effects, I need some... Can anyone help?

I need bridge sound effects from the films. Anyone know where these can be found? I have the T.V. effects CD...

Sorry, I only have the TV effects CD as well.  Is there no dead silent scene in this movie on the bridge you can't replicate the sound out of?

I found it!  It's on the "Generations" Soundtrack. I forgot all about this disk.

Track 16: Enterprise B Bridge. 

 

I tried to import isolated sounds from the film, but there is some really bad background hiss on this film. When I try to overlap sustained background effect sounds (atmosphere), the hiss is very noticeable. I want the sound to be excellent, so taking sounds off a digital cd is best. If I try and mix the old T.V. bridge with the Enterprise B effects, that may be interesting.

The Generations soundtrack has sound effects tracks?  *looks it up* That is SO awesome!  Looking forward to hearing the mix.

I have the old Windows 95 PC version of the Next Gen technical manual and episode guide with her voice, I'll see what I can import from that, but it will take a few days out of my editing. Once I start delving into my old collections I get hung up with reminiscing with it.  I also need to start listening to some of the Trek related audio books with the TOS actors. I'm sure there must be some great moments of spoken word that can be used.  One thing about Trek is that it is so rich with this type of source material.   

Alright, I just thought of something and had to get out of bed to share it with you all. :-D

I had been considering a clever name for this edit since I worked on the poster.  "The eMotion Picture", "The reMotion Picture", etc, before eventually settling on "The Motion Picture: The FanFiltration Edition" to match "The Director's Edition".

Since, we're probably going to redo the title sequence anyway, we could name it whatever we want.  Then it came to me:

"Star Trek: The Movie"

It stays within the general naming aesthetics of the era (Superman, etc.), without leaving it with the cumbersome and arrogant-sounding "The Motion Picture".  It also gives it the fun flair I think we're looking for with this edit.

What do you all think?

Ok, I am just going to spew out some random titles. I have no love or fondness for any of them. All the original series movies had "The" in the title.

Star Trek: The Resurrection 

Star Trek: The Intruder Incident

Star Trek: The Evolution (V'ger evolves at the end)

Star Trek: The Return (too Jaws)

Star Trek: The Continuing Voyage

Star Trek: The Human Adventure

Star Trek: The Warped Edition

I don't like any of them....

I would think that more Trek fans would consider a title change to be more sacrilegious, then enticing. But that is just my opinion.

EDIT: I know! We can totally confuse fans by calling it Star Trek: Voyager VI Returns. They will not know if it's a original series movie, a Voyager movie, or a re-edit of Star trek VI. *wink*

In Thy Image

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/In_Thy_Image

Yeah, In Thy Image works very well; even sounds like an episode title of the original series.

Right, it sounds like an episode, but not like the rest of the movies.  And my goal was to avoid the pretentiousness, which "Thy" will just bring more of.  And there's already a Motion Picture edit called "Phase II: In Thy Image" and even a Star Trek V edit called "Phase 2: In Thy Image".  In fact, they are the only two Star Trek movie edits on Fanedit.org besides Kirkless Generations!  LOL

From FF's list, "The Human Adventure" could work.  I've never really understood the tagline, but it might fit.  "The Continuing Voyage" isn't bad as it is descriptive and even a little spoilery as V'ger could be the voyager.  We do already have a movie with "Voyage" in the title, but I still kind of like it.

I still like my idea though. ;-)  I'll try to mock up a title on the way home.  Plenty of flight time.

The only problem I see in using an Enterprise style monitor is it looks too much like a present day big screen tv hanging on the wall. Nearly all the screens we see in the film are oval, or have curved corners.

Title screen mockups.  Color could be whatever, "E"s need to be rounded at the top.