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Idea: babyhum's proposed new Studio Ghibli project (* unfinished project *)

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Here’s something I’d like to spend some of my (very little) time on as well as my Star Wars preservation series.

I’m a HUGE fan of Hayao Miyazaki and the work of Studio Ghibli (Spirited Away, Howl’s Moving Castle, Tonari No Totoro for the uninitiated). I want to start a small preservation project possibly called ‘The Ghibli Archives’ in which I can collect any behind the scenes clips, interviews, TV specials featuring Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli.

At the moment I have the following:
Teletoon (a french animation show) featuring a report on Studio Ghibli and and interview with Miyazaki.
Manga, a BBC documentary with Jonathan Ross featuring an interview with Miyazaki
Japanorama, another BBC documentary with Jonathan Ross featuring an another interview with Miyazaki

Japanorama is digitally sourced from satellite onto DVD. The others are PAL VHS transfers.

I’m looking for better transfers than I already have and also ANY more clips I can put onto a series of DVD’s, especially a DVD recording in 16x9 of the ARTE special that was broadcast in France, and any Japanese documentaries.

Please reply or PM me if you can help with this project.

And yes, the Star Wars releases will continue soon.

regards
babyhum

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Every Thursday on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) this month (January) they are playing several Miyazaki films. Before each movie is a discussion between John Lasseter (Pixar) and the TCM host. The bad part, it's the Disney English release, but Lasseter is very excited about Miyazaki.

TCM Webpage: http://www.turnerclassicmovies.com/thismonth/article/?cid=114160

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Is there anyone who can record just these intros for me onto DVD?
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If you're interested, I have some french special editions ("Mononoké" and "Chihiro") containing special features made just for those french edition (Japanese animes and mangas are very appreciated in France!). The most interesting is an encounter between Miyazaki and the sci-fi illustrator Moebius (made during an exposition of their work in Paris).
I'm also a huge Ghibli fan, and could help you if I can. Tell me.
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Originally posted by: none
Every Thursday on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) this month (January) they are playing several Miyazaki films. Before each movie is a discussion between John Lasseter (Pixar) and the TCM host. The bad part, it's the Disney English release, but Lasseter is very excited about Miyazaki.

TCM Webpage: http://www.turnerclassicmovies.com/thismonth/article/?cid=114160

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Actually they show the dub and then the sub, which is an awesome thing. Heck, I'm watching Totoro as I type this. The new dub's pretty good, and I don't like dubs. Just seeing the film in widescreen is awesome(I saw the Fox release long ago). I am recording the intros, along with the films I don't have, but it's to S-VHS-ET. I didn't get the ones to Mononoke or Sen to Chihiro.

I love how they don't cut the intros fast enough. You get to see the TCM host constently make dumb faces.


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The real problem for Ghibli animes is that the films are ditributed by Buena Vista (it's the case in Europe, and maybe in US?) and, as everybody knows it, Buena Vista = Disney. And they don't distribute any Ghibli film (in theatres or on DVD) when Disney stuff come in (like a new movie, or a DVD release)... too lame...
For an exemple, when they have distributed "Porco Rosso" in France (I don't remember the year), this Ghibli anime has won (in term of amount of tickets) against the Disney animated of the moment (I don't remember which one). Since this time, every Ghibli movie have been distributed only between two Disney movies...

Actually, in France, even if there's Narnia in theatres (but it's really too different of an anime, so, no conflict), we have the pleasure to have "Pompoko" in theatres. I haven't seen it yet, but I will soon! Anybody saw it?
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Issn't there some Japanese featurette that's on the Spirited Away DVD release that isn't found on the menus? I think it isn't subbed though.
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For an exemple, when they have distributed "Porco Rosso" in France (I don't remember the year), this Ghibli anime has won (in term of amount of tickets) against the Disney animated of the moment (I don't remember which one). Since this time, every Ghibli movie have been distributed only between two Disney movies...


it is not that simple. When Porco Rosso was released in theaters in France, the film was owned by Studio Canal (Canal +) and not Buena Vista. Now the movie is part of the ghibli / buena Vista deal and will be re-released on dvd next april.

here is the first DVD released in France (by studio canal) and the new one (from buena Vista) in two editions



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I think Disney's actually handling them pretty well now here in the states. They even worked with TCM to get them showed. In both languages no less. So I can't really complain. Though I think the subs on Laputa were a bit mistimed(though it could be my lousey player and fatigue).

Speaking of Porco Rosso, it's on right now.


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Originally posted by: Ash595
it is not that simple. When Porco Rosso was released in theaters in France, the film was owned by Studio Canal (Canal +) and not Buena Vista. Now the movie is part of the ghibli / buena Vista deal and will be re-released on dvd next april.


I can assure you that all the Ghibli movies have been distributed , in France, by Buena Vista, even if they were not credited. Studio Canal, on Porco Rosso, was the DVD editor, and a third part distributor (if I remember well), but Buena Vista has always been involved in the distribution of Ghibli movies in occident.
It's not that they "love" those movies and wanted to let occidental people know those treasures, but for many years in Japan, Miyazaki is known as the "japanese Disney" (even if I find that insulting, IMO...lol), and so, Buena Vista has always wanted to control the distribution of his movies.

Anyway, good news about Porco Rosso! It's one of my favourites, and I've tried for a long time now to find it on DVD. Thanks for the tip!
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the region 2 japan dvd's put the disney ones to shame quality wise and on extras, and are usually released a hell of a lot earlier and with english dubs to boot. I have the 4 disc region 2 japan howl's moving castle which I bought in december not going to wait til march. Totoro widescreen with exras already out in japan not here til march, also whispers of the heart already out in japan and not here til in the u.sa. til march, pathetic.

Also i've read that disney has censored the soundtracks and or films of miyazaki, what is the truth to these rumors if any?

if any of this info is true then disney should be boycotted and scorned publicly, and I will only in the future purchase the japan releases.

by the way there is a 3 disc making of on mononoke in japan should check it out.

I am such a huge fan of ghibli I bought the final laserdisc release a box set of all their films up to 1995! Now I have all the ghibli stuff that was released on LD in japan including mononoke. Now I just need to find a copy of his pre ghibli works on laserdisc like castle of calgliostro a.k.a. lupin III the movie.

In japan they have all the ghibli shorts on dvd, the making ofs, and all of these dvd's have storyboards. They have the piece with John Lasseter never released here in the states, and of course the video of ghibli museum.

as for the french studio canal release of porco rosso it's quality has been much lauded over the disney release, i saw a copy go for a lot of money on ebay. Man I wish I won that item.

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Originally posted by: Kaal-Jhyy
[I can assure you that all the Ghibli movies have been distributed , in France, by Buena Vista, even if they were not credited. Studio Canal, on Porco Rosso, was the DVD editor, and a third part distributor (if I remember well), but Buena Vista has always been involved in the distribution of Ghibli movies in occident.


Sorry to disagree but you are wrong. Porco rosso was released in theaters in france, on June 1995 by Studio Canal. Jean-Pierre Dionnet bought two films from Ghibli at that time, Porco Rosso and Totoro. Totoro was directly broadcasted on Canal + in 1998.

proofs here : Porco rosso in France and Totoro in France

the deal between Ghibli and Disney was only concluded in 1999. And The first Ghibli film released in france under the Buena Vista Banner, was Princess Mononoke on January 2000.
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005

Also i've read that disney has censored the soundtracks and or films of miyazaki, what is the truth to these rumors if any?


Not in the least. Back in the nineties, Nausicaa was licensed by a small company. It was dubbed, edited, and distributed as a film the company claimed to have made called Warriors of the Wind. Miyazaki was horrified and deeply upsetted by this. There's a no exceptions, No Editing clause in the licensing agreement. Disney can't cut so much as a frame and it's been that way since Mononoke Hime.

Basically chalk it up to Disney bashing that the misinfo continues to circulate. Even the new dubs are pretty accurate, with Lassetter overseeing them. The only reason the Laputa dub has so many liberties is due to it's age.

As for Miyazaki as "The Japanese Disney", I find it quite fitting. Walt and him share many of the same commitments to quality. Besides, anime owes itself to american animation, particular Disney, seeing as they influced a man named Osamu Tezuka.


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Originally posted by: Ash595
Sorry to disagree but you are wrong. Porco rosso was released in theaters in france, on June 1995 by Studio Canal. Jean-Pierre Dionnet bought two films from Ghibli at that time, Porco Rosso and Totoro. Totoro was directly broadcasted on Canal + in 1998.

proofs here : Porco rosso in France and Totoro in France

the deal between Ghibli and Disney was only concluded in 1999. And The first Ghibli film released in france under the Buena Vista Banner, was Princess Mononoke on January 2000.
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Damn, I was sure to have read infos about Ghibli-Disney deal before '99... Sorry, it seems that I have a bad memory...


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Also i've read that disney has censored the soundtracks and or films of miyazaki, what is the truth to these rumors if any?


I've read (in Animeland magazine, Ghibli special issue) that the US soundtrack of Nausicaa has been totally remade, cause it was too much different of other US production. And more than that, Nausicaa has been re-edited (I don't remember if it was the US version) and many scenes have been deleted...
I'll try to find the article about that (it's in french, but...).
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OK. Before this thread goes COMPLETELY off topic, all i'm asking if anyone has any material that could be included in this project could they let me know. Before anyone asks I have ALL the Japanese R2 DVD's so i'd only be interested in other TV sourced documentaries or a collection of the Behind The Microphone docs.

Thank you.
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Originally posted by: Kaal-Jhyy
I've read (in Animeland magazine, Ghibli special issue) that the US soundtrack of Nausicaa has been totally remade, cause it was too much different of other US production. And more than that, Nausicaa has been re-edited (I don't remember if it was the US version) and many scenes have been deleted...
I'll try to find the article about that (it's in french, but...).


They're probably talking about Warriors of the Wind, the 1985 New World Pictures release I mentioned. The US Disney release is uncut. Only Laputa was rescored to fill in silence and to make it full symphony. It's on the dub track only. That's because it was dubbed at the same time they dubbed Kiki. They don't do that any more.

Babyhum, like I said, I am recording the TCM intros. THey're in SP S-VHS-ET format. I'm a huge anime fan, and know some good sites. If I see anything, I'll keep an eye out. I do have an episode of The Ghiblis if memory serves. Though I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for.


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Here's a small (5 megs) version of the TCM/Lasseter discussions. This is a shrunk down miniDV/iMovie capture.

Totoro : http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CN3NM3TOC7AF3TIMQFQ8BYLF9
Porco : http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=07Y3IO8NYT7ZQ0BY7GR480P0Z6
Whisper of the Heart : http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TJ7D5383PLK73RPG0N4R8LQ51
I didn't know they we're playing the unsubbed version later in the night...dang, do they have new Lasseter clips before those movies or do they replay?
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Originally posted by: baby hum
OK. Before this thread goes COMPLETELY off topic, all i'm asking if anyone has any material that could be included in this project could they let me know. Before anyone asks I have ALL the Japanese R2 DVD's so i'd only be interested in other TV sourced documentaries or a collection of the Behind The Microphone docs.

Thank you.


do you plan to include the original trailer of Castle of Cagliostro, part of the dvd released in Uk by Optimum.

I have the french theatrical trailer for Porco Rosso if you want it

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Here's a small (5 megs) version of the TCM/Lasseter discussions. This is a shrunk down miniDV/iMovie capture.

Totoro : http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CN3NM3TOC7AF3TIMQFQ8BYLF9
Porco : http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=07Y3IO8NYT7ZQ0BY7GR480P0Z6
Whisper of the Heart : http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TJ7D5383PLK73RPG0N4R8LQ51
I didn't know they we're playing the unsubbed version later in the night...dang, do they have new Lasseter clips before those movies or do they replay?
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They're the same. The only change is the end, where he says this is the subbed version.


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Originally posted by: Ash595
Originally posted by: baby hum
OK. Before this thread goes COMPLETELY off topic, all i'm asking if anyone has any material that could be included in this project could they let me know. Before anyone asks I have ALL the Japanese R2 DVD's so i'd only be interested in other TV sourced documentaries or a collection of the Behind The Microphone docs.

Thank you.


do you plan to include the original trailer of Castle of Cagliostro, part of the dvd released in Uk by Optimum.

I have the french theatrical trailer for Porco Rosso if you want it


I have the UK Manga release of CoC. Is this the version you are taking about?

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Originally posted by: Kaal-Jhyy
I've read (in Animeland magazine, Ghibli special issue) that the US soundtrack of Nausicaa has been totally remade, cause it was too much different of other US production. And more than that, Nausicaa has been re-edited (I don't remember if it was the US version) and many scenes have been deleted...
I'll try to find the article about that (it's in french, but...).


They're probably talking about Warriors of the Wind, the 1985 New World Pictures release I mentioned. The US Disney release is uncut.


They are referring to the Warriors of the Wind version. As much as I hate editing anime, I still try to track down these oddities to backup onto DVD if its not been done by an actual studio. Still haven't found this one, though.

http://nausicaa.wanfear.com/Warriors.htm

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It pops up from time to time at cons. I remember a guy telling me he could get beaten up just for holding it.


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