I'm not sure how they differ because I am not familiar with the "Ultra Stereo" on the LD's ..... I don't own them.
However, my H4 and H5 Divimax DVD's have Dolby 5.1 and Dolby 2.0. H6 is the only one that actually says "Ultra Stereo" 2.0 in the audio specs.
:)
From DVDTalk review which I already posted ....
Once again, Halloween 4 has been remixed from Ultra Stereo to six discrete channels. This 16-bit Dolby TrueHD soundtrack is surprisingly limp and lifeless, though. Despite being a 5.1 mix, there might as well not be an LFE channel at all with a low-end this anemic. Actually, the levels across the board are unusually flat, devoid of any dynamic range whatsoever. This neuters the jump scares, and other effects I'd expect to
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pack a hell of a wallop -- say, an EMT's head getting smashed against the side of an ambulance or a gas station going up in flames -- might as well be belched out from the built-in speakers on my TV. There's some occasional directionality, such as the bursts of gunfire from that lynch mob, although the use of the surrounds is generally kept fairly subtle. I dunno, I have stacks of '80s genre flicks on Blu-ray downstairs, so I feel like I have enough of a point of reference for my expectations to be reasonable. This remix of Halloween 4 is so meek and timid that it sounds to me like something just went wrong. Listenable but lackluster.
There aren't any dubs or alternate mixes on this Blu-ray disc. Subtitles, meanwhile, are limited to English (SDH) and Spanish.
Well it seems, sans Blu-Ray, you're fully prepared to do an AQ review. :-)
Please let us know the differences between the soundtrack (both 5.1 and 2.0) on the Divimax and the soundtrack (both 2.0 and 5.1) on the original non-anamorphic DVD.
I'll try to find out more info on audio cues to help. Note, I don't even like H4/H5/H6. I can't believe I'm looking into this, but with you jumping up and buying it, I have to get involved.
Lastly, if anyone gets this far, does anyone know how the H6 Ultra-Stereo soundtrack compares to the H6 Producers Cut Soundtrack on Blu-Ray? ;-) HA!
Jetrell Fo said:
I'm not sure how they differ because I am not familiar with the "Ultra Stereo" on the LD's ..... I don't own them.
However, my H4 and H5 Divimax DVD's have Dolby 5.1 and Dolby 2.0. H6 is the only one that actually says "Ultra Stereo" 2.0 in the audio specs.
:)
Great, we have some H4 cues, thank you.
Edit:
'Also, Lyle_JP' from HTF and Blu-Ray.com seems to know some differences:
"Yes, not only was the 5.1 mix on the non-anamorphic disc more full surround-wise, but it also had much more bass and doesn't have original sound effects missing. Yes, that's right, the 5.1 mix on the anamorphic release actually has some of the original sound effects missing entirely. For example, when the two paramedics first arrive at the Federal Sanitarium to collect Myers, on the original Ultra*Stereo mix, there was a loud audible buzz as they enter the facility, as if they were being buzzed in. It's also on the first DVD, but was omitted from the mix entirely on the anamorphic disc. This was just one of about 4 things I noticed. I really wish that Anchor bay would have taken that first 5.1 mix and used it on the Divimax disc. -Lyle J.P."
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/236386-htf-review-halloween-4-the-return-of-michael-myers-divimax-special-edition/page-2#entry2828087
'Adam Scott' on HTF replied and mentions a thunderstorm.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/236386-htf-review-halloween-4-the-return-of-michael-myers-divimax-special-edition/page-2#entry2829122
Check the H4 Divimax DVD because this site suggests the Ultra-Stereo is on the Divimax.
http://www.kqek.com/dvd_reviews/h/3389_Halloween4.htm
The DigitalBits H4 1999 DVD review suggests the 5.1 is good but remastered, dunno how accurate this is.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/site_archive/reviews/halloween4.html
This site suggests the Ultra-Stereo for H6 is on older H6 Blu-Ray releases (not hte boxset).
http://www.ohmb.net/showthread.php?18739-Halloween-The-Curse-of-Michael-Myers-Echo-Bridge-Blu-Ray-Review/page7
Jetrell Fo said:
From DVDTalk review which I already posted ....
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Once again, Halloween 4 has been remixed from Ultra Stereo...
This remix of Halloween 4 is so meek and timid that it sounds to me like something just went wrong. Listenable but lackluster.
There aren't any dubs or alternate mixes on this Blu-ray disc. Subtitles, meanwhile, are limited to English (SDH) and Spanish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fii0qj-xPGY
These are the LD's that say they have it .....
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/10664/2100-80/Halloween-4-(1988)
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00886/2425-80/Halloween-5-(1989)
This is what info the OP should have had when asking ......
key word in that review remixed in other words both the 2.0 and 5.1 was the ultra stereo track tampered with.
Please be more specific.
Also, many people have the opinion that the "remixed" moniker has little-to-no meaning. Especially with something as esoteric and rarely released as the Ultra-Stereo H4/H5 soundtrack. Additionally, depending on the review you're quoting, I don't think both the 2.0 and 5.1 soundtracks were suggested as "remixed", which if you read any of this thread that YOU started, you would realize this is an unanswred question with lots of references to suggest more investigation is warranted.
Lastly, I've heard nothing but nonsense from you so far. Try again, and give a little bit more effort this time. Thank you.
jedimasterobiwan said:
key word in that review remixed in other words both the 2.0 and 5.1 was the ultra stereo track tampered with.
i told you what i was told on blu-ray.com thread one of the changes that i know of i think there might be more is halloween 4 or 5 the door bell sound effect is missing.
jedimasterobiwan said:
i told you what i was told on blu-ray.com thread one of the changes that i know of i think there might be more is halloween 4 or 5 the door bell sound effect is missing.
Which could mean anything really. Maybe it is sourced from the one 5.1 soundtrack that wasn't so great. It is mentioned in one of the articles that has been posted already.
There has been a lot of research done by myself and skoal while you are bring the word of someone on the bluray.com forum. Do some of the research and decide for yourself ..... or, read all that we have posted in regards to the "said" issue you're talking about. There is plenty of info in this thread now.
This thread?
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=249506&highlight=halloween&page=1
ignore
skoal you found it for me thanks that whole post that's it 'Also, Lyle_JP' from HTF and Blu-Ray.com seems to know some differences:
"Yes, not only was the 5.1 mix on the non-anamorphic disc more full surround-wise, but it also had much more bass and doesn't have original sound effects missing. Yes, that's right, the 5.1 mix on the anamorphic release actually has some of the original sound effects missing entirely. For example, when the two paramedics first arrive at the Federal Sanitarium to collect Myers, on the original Ultra*Stereo mix, there was a loud audible buzz as they enter the facility, as if they were being buzzed in. It's also on the first DVD, but was omitted from the mix entirely on the anamorphic disc. This was just one of about 4 things I noticed. I really wish that Anchor bay would have taken that first 5.1 mix and used it on the Divimax disc. -Lyle J.P."
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/236386-htf-review-halloween-4-the-return-of-michael-myers-divimax-special-edition/page-2#entry2828087
'Adam Scott' on HTF replied and mentions a thunderstorm.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/236386-htf-review-halloween-4-the-return-of-michael-myers-divimax-special-edition/page-2#entry2829122
Check the H4 Divimax DVD because this site suggests the Ultra-Stereo is on the Divimax.
http://www.kqek.com/dvd_reviews/h/3389_Halloween4.htm
The DigitalBits H4 1999 DVD review suggests the 5.1 is good but remastered, dunno how accurate this is.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/site_archive/reviews/halloween4.html
This site suggests the Ultra-Stereo for H6 is on older H6 Blu-Ray releases (not hte boxset).
http://www.ohmb.net/showthread.php?18739-Halloween-The-Curse-of-Michael-Myers-Echo-Bridge-Blu-Ray-Review/page7
i copied and pasted the whole thing because that whole thing was what i was talking about thanks.
jedimasterobiwan, before you edited your post with "ignore" the link you posted was helpful.
This was the link: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=9813600&postcount=14318
It was helpful because it was 'Lyle_JP's' post you highlighted on Blu-Ray.com and I also highlighted one of his earlier posts on HTF. As a result, it seems this dude is the expert on this, and I msg'd him for more info and let him know about this thread.
Lastly, jedimasterobiwan, I didn't/don't mean to slam you...
Jetrell Fo said:
These are the LD's that say they have it .....
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/10664/2100-80/Halloween-4-(1988)
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00886/2425-80/Halloween-5-(1989)
This is what info the OP should have had when asking ......
These??
:)
yes those are the laserdiscs
Does anyone on this forum own the US Halloween 4 & 5 P&S LD's with the Ultra Stereo audio? If so, would you please respond to this thread to see if we can get the audio capped bit perfect so it can be sync'd to the new Bluray releases?
^^^^^
That is how you should have started your inquiry. It might have gotten more notice.
I hope someone reading will respond now.
i sorry didn't think of wording it like that
jedimasterobiwan said:
i sorry didn't think of wording it like that
I took the liberty of searching out the Audio Preservation thread by PDB and making the request in there as well. It gets read more than this one might and it might actually have better results.
:)
where's the page your talking about? never mind just noticed it thanks. wait i just looked though it didn't see your message on it.
It's the 2nd last post of the thread ..... lol .... you gotta learn to search a little better or some folks may start to dog you because of it ..... anyways, here's the link to my post.
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Audio-Preservation-Thread/post/758199/#TopicPost758199
sorry i didn't know i was looking in a different thread.
Please don't think mean of me but may I ask, is this the first forum you've ever belonged to? It would seem that either you don't know how to navigate here and/or maybe there is a language barrier I am unaware of for you.
I'm just curious.
no i i've been here for a while i think. i guess don't know how to navigate the forums or didn't look too hard sorry. also sorry if there are grammer problems here i'm not good with sentence structure sorry. also no i'm american i have no speach problems at all.
I just want to make sure I understand things the way you mean them. You've confused me on a few posts in this thread and that can make it difficult to help someone if their message isn't as clear or informed as it could be.
Thanks for clarifying.
:)