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Idea & Info: is their anyone willing to edit the original ultra stereo tracks of halloween 4 and 5 laserdisc to sync up with the blu rays?

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is their anyone willing to edit the original ultra stereo tracks of halloween 4 and 5 laserdisc to sync up with the blu rays?

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Did you purchase the Deluxe Edition Collection and the audio for those 2 films fell short of expectations?

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yes they change the audio kinda like what they did to the terminator mono track. all i'm asking for is the original theatrical audio which is on the laserdiscs sync with the blu rays.

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Cool that you're doing these edits, jedimasterobiwan. I wondered for a long time if there are versions of Halloween 4 and 5 that have the LD soundtrack or if someone could do that. I'm looking forward to see your edits, could you please release them in the next two months?

Ceci n’est pas une signature.

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But it will be released in the next months? Please say it will, I have been waiting for so long. Can you give us at least a trailer, now?

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You're not doing it? Hmm, I see. Maybe I should stop bothering you with things that only I want to have done and instead try to do it myself?

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These laserdiscs can fetch a fair price on eBay.  Maybe purchasing them and offering them up to someone who can transfer bit for bit audio would be the way to go?

Just an idea. 

Here is Halloween 4 on LD ....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HALLOWEEN-4-THE-RETURN-OF-MICHAEL-MYERS-HORROR-LASERDISC-JAPAN-RELEASE-/181660062635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a4bc893ab

All I have are the Divimax DVD versions of 4/5 from Anchor Bay .....

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/halloween-4-the-return-of-michael-myers.html

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/halloween-5-the-revenge-of-michael-myers.html

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Anyone looked into if these tracks were released on DVD? And if yes, why would a preservation be needed?

Rant below:

Let me eat my words; I say this without researching that these soundtracks have been released on DVD. Sometimes I wonder if these posts are to generate laserdisc search traffic and/or increase perceived worth of laserdiscs on eBay. I only say this because there a lot of posts about random laserdisc soundtracks without mentioning DVD releases at all. 

I think, only a fan would be interested in the "Ultra Stereo", only a fan would know the difference between the "Ultra Stereo" soundtrack and the Blu-Ray soundtrack, and only a fan would only post about it. However, I think, such a fan, would research if the "Ultra Stereo" soundtrack was on DVD and include that information rather than just skip over that generation of releases.

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it is only on laserdisc i did my research i just would like ether the laserdiscs that have the audio or have the audio online sync with the blu ray.

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If possible, please provide some of the research and/or web links?

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Will anyone reply? Or was I right, this is a case of: people not doing the research claimed, trying to inflate prices, or people just want/like low*er*-quality LD audio.

From Lyle_JP on HTF: "I have owned all of them. The 5.1 tracks on discs 2, 3, and 4 are identical (in fact, discs 2 and 3 are identical in every respect). This 5.1 track is also being used for the HD version on Monsters HD. The track on the first, non-anamorphic disc is the only different one, which stays more faithful to the original Ultra*Stereo mix. -Lyle J.P."

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/238942-halloween-4-which-dvds-have-the-superior-51-track/#entry2847512


And from 'John H Ross' on HTF: "There appears to be four DVD releases:

  1. Original version. Non-anamorphic. No extras. Released July 20, 1999
  2. Anamorphic (apparently). Includes "Halloween 4: Final Cut" documentary. Released October 9, 2001
  3. Anamorphic. Limited edition tin. Includes "Halloween 4: Final Cut" documentary.Released October 1, 2005
  4. Divimax Edition. Anamorphic. Includes "Halloween 4: Final Cut" documentary + cast/crew commentaries, etc.Released July 25, 2006

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/238942-halloween-4-which-dvds-have-the-superior-51-track/#entry2846652


The HTF thread, if you actually read it, mentions specific audio information, something you failed to do.

The question(s) now are:

  1. Was the 5.1 audio remastered/remixed for the original non-anamorphic Halloween 4 DVD? Or was the Ultra-Stereo *just* decoded to 5.1?
  2. Does the original non-anamorphic Halloween 4 DVD contain a 2.0 track? (I think it has to according to DVD spec.)
  3. If yes to #2 above, is this 2.0 track a simple fold-down from the 5.1 track contained on the same DVD or is it the original Ultra-Stereo track?
  4. How is the Ultra-Stereo track better than audio on any given DVD/Blu-Ray release?



I hope I don't get banned, however more and more I see stuff like this. I don't understand why people aren't doing research, and some even claiming to when they probably didn't.

Thank you and you're welcome!

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I didn't even know Ultra Stereo actually existed .... I was just trying to give the op some ideas.  For my own sake, I posted the links for reviews of the 2 I owned but apparently he wasn't reading, I'm not sure.

Thanks for the info skoal, most appreciated.

:)

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i don't remember the source it been a while i think it was mention on blu-ray.com forum page. also it's little audio things like the door bell in ether halloween 4 or 5 is actually better think it doesn't go off on the other audio mixes things like that.

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2. Does the original non-anamorphic Halloween 4 DVD contain a 2.0 track? (I think it has to according to DVD spec.)

I just purchased it so we'll find out when it arrives.

:) 

I'll be happy to rip and share it for research into it's origins. 

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It's cool, I don't recall you saying anything off in this thread (or recently ;-))

Jetrell Fo said: 

I didn't even know Ultra Stereo actually existed ....

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I also didn't know the Ultra-Stereo existed and I would like to know if the Blu-Ray is really that bad? If so, that's a real shame, Anchor Bay/Scream Factory/Shout Factory really screwed up those releases with the sync issues, fullscreen TV cut of Halloween, and the confusion surrounding the Extended and TV cut of Halloween.

 

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Wow and cool!!! Since you're a regular, I doubt you'll do this... however, please don't tease us and never reply to this thread again! Lol!

Jetrell Fo said:

2. Does the original non-anamorphic Halloween 4 DVD contain a 2.0 track? (I think it has to according to DVD spec.)

I just purchased it so we'll find out when it arrives.

:) 

 

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jedimasterobiwan, you're reply isn't very informative and is exactly the type of comment that is anti-helpful.

Please provide examples of how the Blu-Ray is inferior to the original Ultra-Stereo theatrical audio. I've read how the 5.1 DVD has been *slightly* changed and how the 5.1 DVD has missing audio effects when compared to the Ultra-Stereo. These things may have been corrected and I'm too lazy to search ATM.

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The only REAL way to get "said Ultra Stereo" is probably straight off a print of the film and since I don't know anyone who has it I doubt we'll get anything closer than the audio from the non-anamorphic release of Halloween 4. 

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Jetrell Fo, hmm, not sure what you mean...

The LD supposedly has the Ultra-Stereo soundtrack, and Ultra-Stereo decodes properly with Dolby decoders.

Also, the original non-anamophic DVD hopefully (when you reply and tell us (*blink blink*)) also has the Ultra-Stereo in 2.0 and should also decode property with Dolby decoders. However, this shouldn't be needed or necessary if the 5.1 on that disc is discreet and *highly* similar to the matrixed 2.0 Ultra-Stereo. Right?

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skoal said:

Jetrell Fo, hmm, not sure what you mean...

The LD supposedly has the Ultra-Stereo soundtrack, and Ultra-Stereo decodes properly with Dolby decoders.

Also, the original non-anamophic DVD hopefully (when you reply and tell us (*blink blink*)) also has the Ultra-Stereo in 2.0 and should also decode property with Dolby decoders. However, this shouldn't be needed or necessary if the 5.1 on that disc is discreet and *highly* similar to the matrixed 2.0 Ultra-Stereo. Right?

My mistake .... I think I confused myself by being confused.  LOL.  Having a print of the film would at least give you whatever theatrical audio was used when the films was in theaters, after that it's probably pretty suggestive as to which is better or closer.

I just paid for the DVD so it will be a few days before it arrives.  When it does, I'll rip the audio and offer it for anyone thinking they need to have it.

:) 

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Thank you Jetrell Fo, however if the 5.1 DD on the original non-anamorphic DVD is a discreet version of the Ultra-Stereo soundtrack, that might be more "wanted"/"needed".

Also, I still would like details on how the Blu-Ray soundtrack(s) are inferior. Since no one is replying, perhaps I'll have to look up the details myself, however this makes no sense because I'm not the OP.

Jetrell Fo said:

skoal said:

Jetrell Fo, hmm, not sure what you mean...

The LD supposedly has the Ultra-Stereo soundtrack, and Ultra-Stereo decodes properly with Dolby decoders.

Also, the original non-anamophic DVD hopefully (when you reply and tell us (*blink blink*)) also has the Ultra-Stereo in 2.0 and should also decode property with Dolby decoders. However, this shouldn't be needed or necessary if the 5.1 on that disc is discreet and *highly* similar to the matrixed 2.0 Ultra-Stereo. Right?

My mistake .... I think I confused myself by being confused.  LOL.  Having a print of the film would at least give you whatever theatrical audio was used when the films was in theaters, after that it's probably pretty suggestive as to which is better or closer.

I just paid for the DVD so it will be a few days before it arrives.  When it does, I'll rip the audio and offer it for anyone thinking they need to have it.

:)