Idea & Info: The Brave Little Toaster DVD - Ideas on how to restore?

It isn't only the DVD; according to YouTube, the VHS is also bad.

I was trying to stabilize this a while back...it took a while to get the stab AVIsynth script to work, and once I got it working, I realized that although it did a good job of getting rid of the "jitters", it still needed another pass from a different plugin (I don't have the name off the top of my head) to get rid of the picture weaving all over the place. I was trying to figure out how to work the settings for that plugin before I got distracted by some other project.

BTW, if you're seriously considering this, you might want to consider uncensoring some of the lyrics while you're at it.

How's the LD? I own it, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

I would wager money that the LD is the same shoddy master as the VHS and the DVD.

That is, unless YouTube was lying to me and it wasn't actually VHS footage.

Edit: Here's a PAL LD capture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vr8ln8B-8g

Either it's a lot less wavey than the DVD, or my memory is making the DVD a lot worse than it really is.

Edit 2: Nope, it's not just my memory. Here's one of the VHSes (NTSC?) and you can clearly see it rocking like a ship on a stormy sea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcDA-eG9hTw

drngr said:

The description says it's a UK DVD.

 My mistake. When I searched for "brave toaster laserdisc", it was the very first result, so I just assumed that YouTube wasn't a dirty filthy liar... *flips out* THANKS A LOT, GOOGLE.

drngr said:

Quality looks good judging by screenshots of an XviD on RuTracker (R2 video and audio + other sources for the dub tracks).

 The YT video looked like it had lots of interlace ghosting (or whatever it's called, I can't remember). The XviD isn't like this?

Oh =(

A quick comparison between the rutracker rip and an r1 dvd rip - the pal dvd they used is indeed way better than the us one.

I'd say it was worth it trying to track an r2 dvd down if you're really looking for a better version. They don't specify on rutracker what specific r2 dvd was used though, as far as I can see.

There are German (der tapfere kleine toaster) and Polish (dzielny maly toster) dvds that can be had quite cheap(ish), however they may be a different transfer.

No interlace issues?

None that I could see.

Weird that it's all over the YouTube video, maybe it's something YT automatically applies to PAL videos?

Now I'm not sure what you mean, are you talking about aliasing? That's from bad resolution on youtube, it's not in the pal rip. I don't really see any ghosting or other artifacts except the expected compression artifacts. It looks good.

I can't remember what it's called, I tried looking it up real quick and felt like I was wasting time finding no answers...it's where they simply blend the frames instead of separating them first, when deinterlacing.

Like the middle example in this picture:

Speaking of wasted time, I'm real glad I didn't spend very much of it trying to stabilize the NTCS version.

I don't see blended frames/fields in the rutracker or on the youtube link above. I see aliasing from bad resolution/resizing on the youtube one, not on the rutracker one. Why don't you grab it yourself from rutracker since I can't convince you?

I have the R2 DVD from RuTracker. There's no ghosting, but there's definitely some noticeable macroblocking. Was this supposed to be a DVD5? Was it recompressed? I can't read Russian and Google Translate does a pretty shitty job.

It doesn't say as far as I can see. I have the xvid, yes full of compression artifacts.
Sometimes you can tell from the artifacts if a dvd has been 'shrunk', if the blocks kinda go on and off - hard to describe maybe but pretty easy to spot once you're looking for it.

I'm pretty sure it's a straight rip and that the original is a DVD5.

The following R2 DVD release mentions being DVD5 on the back. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IFSUDEW

I wonder if they used the same master...

Santiag fixes the aliasing wonderfully.

I'm going to try the amazing denoise node in a herein-unnamed application. I've never seen this fucker artifact.

There seem to be many R2 releases. Dutch, German, Italian & Polish at least. Some have localized intro titles, some not it seems. Assuming the same transfer but different encoding it could be possible to average/median several videos to eliminate macroblocking.

If someone was so inclined & willing to track down several dvd copies of course :)

Interesting difference between the R1 and R2 DVDs:

satanika said:

I don't see blended frames/fields in the rutracker or on the youtube link above.

I get them in the YouTube clips, but this machine isn't set up to run YT at an optimal framerate, so maybe that has something to do with it.

satanika said:

Why don't you grab it yourself from rutracker since I can't convince you?

It's not that I'm not convinced, I was just seeking clarification ;) If the only thing wrong with this DVD is PAL speedup, I'll have to try to find an ISO of it or something. I haven't seen this movie in ages, and the Disney disc is near unwatchable to me.

AntcuFaalb said:

Was this supposed to be a DVD5?

I know this means absolutely nothing, but the NTSC release is less than four gigs.