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Idea: Star Wars Fan Preservations Documentary

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So, I’m currently working on a bonus clip for my DeEd BD, where I briefly introduce the most important sources I used and I was thinking about what I’ll put on the separate bonus disc for the whole trilogy I got planned after all the v2s are released and I got this idea that since the DeEd is a mesh of many different fan efforts, it would be a really cool thing to have a documentary, mapping the history of fan preservations of the Star Wars films starting from early LD captures, over the early GOUT restorations and 8mm and 16mm transfers and ending with the DeEd, Project Blu and 35mm transfers. It could also mention preservations of the various documentaries and tv shows and bootleg VHS and such and of course maybe some fanedits but I’d like it to focus mainly on the projects that tried to present the films themselves in a better quality than what was officially available at the time.

Now, this is not really a fully flashed out idea, more like a spur of the moment notion but I thought it could be a cool co-operative project. There are so many talented people on these boards that I’m sure together, we could create something really cool. What do you think?

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That could be cool but the Negative1 guys are calling their project that (though it's probably a working title).

Thanks for the support guys. Like I said, just an idea and these group collaboration projects somehow never really worked out yet (to my knowledge anyway) but maybe we can break that :-)

I would also be cool to get Jambe in on this.

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I would also be interested in such a documentary to include information about the audio track preservations.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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It would be great to just have a nice HD video showing the difference in quality of the un-enhanced GOUT (with black bars all the way around) to some of the preservations.

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This is a brilliant simple idea that I'd be glad to chip in on.

It would be perfect for the front home page.

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I don't know how I could contribute at this time but count me in.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Harmy said:

That could be cool but the Negative1 guys are calling their project that (though it's probably a working title).

I demand this project be called "Proper Typing Etiquette."

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I'll watch the [REDACTED] out of this if it gets done, btw.

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I'd prolly throw some stuff in xD, but only with a modified or synthesized voice.  My voice sounds brain-damaged.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Let us know of ways we can help.  There are various ways to approach and not sure which is best.  Can see setting out a final length for the feature (let's say half hour) then setting aside blocks of time for major steps the community has made.  5 min. intro, 7 minutes on LD, 5 for GOUT, 5 for film, 3 for misc, then 5 for summary.  Not sure if that's a beezey pace or too long...  Or is a list of the projects you feel are important gets timelined and then piece together their innovations and that becomes your backbone, length of doc ends up being whatever it becomes.  Also with this list, the ones which are unseeded or relatively lost can be put back up somewhere.

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The second, I think. Making a list of important projects throughout history, preferably with links to their threads or webs would be a great first step and it's exactly what I need help with. The final length isn't really important for now. So, you guys can post suggestions and then we can discuss them and I'll always update the first post with the ones we decide on including.

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Here's a series of related projects/threads/lists which could make one train of thought / chapter:

Started out with the goal of:
Restorations / Recreations / DeSpecialized Versions
aka picking and choosing best sources to recreate the 1977 experience
but maybe this is better as
'Special Edition to DeSpecialized'


-+- The Change -+-

1997.01
Star Wars Special Editions

+Find several quotes of Film historians critical of the SEs+
+there's a couple quotes from 1997 which eloquently attempted to alert the public of this revisionism+

-+- Identifying the Changes -+-

1997.??
Red5.net.au Special Edition page
http://web.archive.org/web/19970624035356/http://www.red5.net.au/special/

1997.08
Paul Ens' Star Wars Special Edition Annotations - started in rec.arts.sf.starwars.misc (usenet)
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/6251
http://www.theforce.net/swse/index.html (1998.01)

1997.??
StarWars.com Special Edition changes article
http://www.starwars.com/???????

1999.11
dvdfile.com article "Star Wars changes we weren't told about"
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies/browse_thread/thread/1aa38db7cc6cf00d/d11fd08ab90a35e3?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=special+edition+changes#d11fd08ab90a35e3

+Could touch upon the continuous edit wars over the wikipedia SW changes page+

-+- The Changes Continue -+-

2004.09
Star Wars Trilogy DVD set
First time original trilogy in DVD format.

2004.10
Star Wars: The Changes by DVDactive.com
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-one.html

+at this point maybe point out the Episode addition and other changes made during the early days+

-+- We can 'Unlearn' -+-

2004.10
Using the '04 version to restore teh original
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Using-the-04-version-to-restore-teh-original/topic/1168/page/1/

2004.10
Star Wars Legacy Version 1
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Using-the-04-version-to-restore-teh-original/post/69143/#TopicPost69143
http://www.starwarslegacy.com

2004.??
StarWars.com 2004 Changes article

2004.11
Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD by ADigitalMan
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Thought-on-de-SE-ing-the-DVD/topic/1532/

2005.01
Any Interest In A Corrected 2004 DVD? by Neil S. Bulk
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Any-Interest-In-A-Corrected-2004-DVD/topic/1711/

2005.01
Prototype Mono Pre-ANH "XP77:4EB" Edit by Molly
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Prototype-Mono-Pre-ANH-XP77-4EB-Edit/topic/1757/
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/dvd/OT/molly.html
Sources : Mysterious Mysteries (EditDroid) LD with ITV mono mix audio

2005.01
Wookie Groomer Split Screen by Wookie Groomer
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Greetings-from-Wookie-Groomer-Split-Screen-News/topic/1773/
Would have implications a few years later.

2005.05
Star Wars: Classic Edition [V1 and V2] by ocpmovie
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Classic-Edition-by-Ocpmovie/topic/2270/

2005.05
70mm ESB Differences
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/70-mm-print-of-the-Empire-Strikes-Back-Differences/topic/2321/

2005.06
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (Darth Editous Edition) - v1 thru v5?
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Darth-Editous-Episode-IV-DVD-Info-and-Feedback-Thread-a-partially-de-specialed-DVD/topic/2425/

-+- Identifying the Changes - Audio -+-

2005.??
Starkiller's Guide to the Mono Sound Mix
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/mono/

2005.12
The "Darth Editous / ADigitalMan" Hybrid Edition
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Darth-Editous-ADigitalMan-Hybrid-Edition-Info-and-Feedback-Thread/topic/3923/

2006.??
"We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions."
http://originaltrilogy.com/Lucasfilm_PR_response.cfm

2007.03
The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit by PaulisDead2221
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Empire-Strikes-Back-The-Vintage-Edit/topic/7634/

+slight detour but helps explain the years that pass as this topic went semi-dormant+  [well according to this list, probably missing...  a great many things]

2006.07
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope 'Revisited'
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-IV-2004-REVISITED-ADYWAN-720p-HD-version-coming-after-ROTJ-R/topic/5942/

2008.04
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope 'Revisited' PURIST Edition
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=5942

2009.07
The Phantom Menace Theatrical Version by Adywan
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Phantom-Menace-Theatrical-Version-NTSC-DVD-ADYWAN-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/10615/

+return to main topic+

2010.05
Star Wars Trilogy "Partly Despecialized Edition" by Harmy
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-TRILOGY-Partly-Despecialized-Edition-HD-These-version-are-now-obsolete-Look-for-Despecialized-Editions-instead/topic/11587/

-+- Identifying the Changes - Revisited -+-

2010.09
doubleofive's SE Visual Changes thread:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/topic/11927/

2011.04
Star Wars - Despecialized Edition v1 by Harmy
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-v21-AVCHD-is-now-out/topic/12713/

2011.09
Star Wars released in Blu-ray

2011.??
Star Wars - Despecialized Edition v2 by Harmy
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-v21-AVCHD-is-now-out/topic/12713/


Would love to be able to find the first mentioning of despecializing.

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Well, I did make up the term despecialize for the Partly Despecialized Edition but it is possible of course that people had been using it even before that.

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I meant more the start of the concept not a specific word variation.  So far in these forum there has been de-SE'd ('04), de-specialed ('05) and despecialized ('10).

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Well, I suppose I did have a bit of a role, if extremely minor... LOL

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Molly said:

My voice sounds brain-damaged.

Your voice has a brain of its own?! :)

Nah, jokes aside I think nobody likes to hear their own voice. I sure don't. But if this project progresses nicely I might be up for some kind of interview if it's needed. I imagine when new people come to this site, a documentary would be a great introduction.

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If you would like to accept my contribution, involving my OUT and SET projects, count me in!

...but I hate my voice, too... (°°x)

Sadly my projects are lost due to an HDD crash… 😦 | [Fundamental Collection] thread | blog.spoRv.com | fan preservation forum: fanres.com

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I have voice over experience and would love to volunteer to do the voice over work if needed.

The project manager(s) could talk to me over the phone if needed.

 

PD