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Idea: Sifo Dyas removal from AOTC? — Page 2
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
THIS HAS TURNED INTO A "GENERAL STAR WARS DISCUSSION" THREAD. WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO TOPIC.
THIS HAS TURNED INTO A "GENERAL STAR WARS DISCUSSION" THREAD. WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO TOPIC.
Yeah, I think you're right.
My last word on this, is just that this "Sifo Dyas" detail has never disturbed me. It has made me curious about it, but it's all.
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Obviously the Kaminions could be redubed or subtitled. but obi-wan, jango and yoda/mace all discuss the ordering of the clone army. thats where it gets tricky.
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He's not conflicted, it just seems like half of it was shot during production and half of it was shot during pickups and then it was all blended together.
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(I could be wrong about Obi-wan being the only one to state it, other than the Kaminoans. It's early, and I'm tired.
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
But Yoda, Mace and (IIRC) Jango don't even mention the name. I think Obi-wan is the only one who mentions it, so that's the only part you really have to work on. Maybe someone could dub in "A Jedi" (for example) over "Sifo-Dyas". This way, it can later be linked to Dooku.
(I could be wrong about Obi-wan being the only one to state it, other than the Kaminoans. It's early, and I'm tired. )
But Yoda, Mace and (IIRC) Jango don't even mention the name. I think Obi-wan is the only one who mentions it, so that's the only part you really have to work on. Maybe someone could dub in "A Jedi" (for example) over "Sifo-Dyas". This way, it can later be linked to Dooku.
(I could be wrong about Obi-wan being the only one to state it, other than the Kaminoans. It's early, and I'm tired.
) You're right. I watched it last night and I found that the whole line can be cut and it allows it to still flow. The Kaminos say his name, and Obi Wan says his name. That's it.
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I'm of the opinion that the Syphodias plot point was stupid because it was never resolved. There are some things where you want to be vague and make the audience think, and there are other things that just generate confusion and frustration if they aren't resolved.
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"then you must know master sifo dyas"
"master who?"
"Sifo dyas, is he not the jedi who hired you for this job?"
"never heard of him"
"really?"
"I was recruited by a man called tyrannus on one of the moons of bogden"
Also, if we are not to attribute the ordering to Sifo Dyas then who?
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Give me mysteries. It doesn't all have to be spoon-fed to us. Let us be just as much in the dark about the whole truth as the Jedi and the Senate were.
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Originally posted by: TheDemonHunter
There's no need to resolve the matter of Master Sifo Dyas. Last time I checked, the Sith are all about deception, mystery, and misinformation. I like the idea that the Jedi can't get to the bottom of that one and that we have no answers. Besides, it was inferred, at least from my point of view, that Dooku/Tyrannus was partly responsible for the misdirection when Jango Fett named Tyrannus as his recruiter.
Give me mysteries. It doesn't all have to be spoon-fed to us. Let us be just as much in the dark about the whole truth as the Jedi and the Senate were.
There's no need to resolve the matter of Master Sifo Dyas. Last time I checked, the Sith are all about deception, mystery, and misinformation. I like the idea that the Jedi can't get to the bottom of that one and that we have no answers. Besides, it was inferred, at least from my point of view, that Dooku/Tyrannus was partly responsible for the misdirection when Jango Fett named Tyrannus as his recruiter.
Give me mysteries. It doesn't all have to be spoon-fed to us. Let us be just as much in the dark about the whole truth as the Jedi and the Senate were.
I agree. After all, I thought all those PT haters had a problem with Lucas showing them everything. Well, you've got your wish now.
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As I said before, try to cover up "Sifo Dyas" with "A Jedi".
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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On second thought...don't.
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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Originally posted by: TheDemonHunter
There's no need to resolve the matter of Master Sifo Dyas. Last time I checked, the Sith are all about deception, mystery, and misinformation. I like the idea that the Jedi can't get to the bottom of that one and that we have no answers. Besides, it was inferred, at least from my point of view, that Dooku/Tyrannus was partly responsible for the misdirection when Jango Fett named Tyrannus as his recruiter.
Give me mysteries. It doesn't all have to be spoon-fed to us. Let us be just as much in the dark about the whole truth as the Jedi and the Senate were.
There's no need to resolve the matter of Master Sifo Dyas. Last time I checked, the Sith are all about deception, mystery, and misinformation. I like the idea that the Jedi can't get to the bottom of that one and that we have no answers. Besides, it was inferred, at least from my point of view, that Dooku/Tyrannus was partly responsible for the misdirection when Jango Fett named Tyrannus as his recruiter.
Give me mysteries. It doesn't all have to be spoon-fed to us. Let us be just as much in the dark about the whole truth as the Jedi and the Senate were.
I agree that the jedi shouldn;t know, but the audience should have some indication. And in order to cut out the references to sifodyas, we have to cut out the part where Jango says he was hired by Tyrannus. Which is the only reference to that name other then in the final scene with sidious, so then we DON'T know that dooku was involved with the ordering of the clones.
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LAMA SU: Please tell your Master Qui-Gon Jinn that we have every confidence his order will be met on time and in full.
OBI-WAN: I'm sorry? Master - ?
LAMA SU: Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn. He's still a leading member of the Jedi Council, is he not?
OBI-WAN: Master Jinn was killed almost ten years ago.
LAMA SU: Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. But I'm sure he would have been proud of the army we've built for him.
OBI-WAN: Then you must know Master Qui-Gon Jinn?
JANGO FETT: Master who?
OBI-WAN: Qui-Gon Jinn. Is he not the Jedi who hired you for this job?
JANGO FETT: Never heard of him.
OBI-WAN: Curious.
OBI-WAN: They say [cut]a[cut] Master Qui-Gon placed the order for a clone army at the request of the Senate almost ten years ago. Did the Council ever authorize the
creation of a clone army? (With maybe another line about how Qui-Gon couldn't have or whatever.)
Though there wouldn't be any resolution, it might be interesting to go that route. If you had to explain it, it could be assumed Dooku ordered the clones in his deceased apprentice's name.
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In the end, what does it matter? GL will probably change it anyway.
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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Why the Jedi don't have a problem taking on an army that has dubious origins at best that was cloned after THE EVIL BOUNTY HUNTER Jango Fett who was hanging out with THE EVIL SEPARATIST Count Dooku.
Fett tells Kenobi that he takes orders from Tyrannus and then he leaves and goes to kick it with Dooku. How did they at least not think that something was up with that! And shouldn't Fett have been like, What the Heck?, when his own clones show up to kill him? But I guess he was already dead by then. So nevermind...
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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