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Idea: OT Edits to Fit the PT and/or the Larger Saga (A Resource Thread, Hopefully) — Page 5

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I think that TPM alone shows the Republic to be a deeply flawed institution:

“I can’t beleive there’s still slavery in the galaxy, the Republic’s anti-slavery laws…”
“The Republic doesn’t exist out here.”

“Enter the Bureaucrats, the true rulers of the Republic…and on the payroll of the Trade Federation.”

“The Courts take even longer to decide things than the Senate.”

“It is clear to me the Republic no longer functions.”

These problems definitely existed before Palpatine was Chancellor, and almost certainly before he was a Senator.

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BedeHistory731 said:

G&G-Fan said:

His whole channel is overanalyzing things in the search for misogyny where none exists.

That and taking so long in between uploads it’d make Fredrik Knudsen/Atrocity Guide blush. Except your average Fredrik Knudsen video has five times the research that Pop Culture Detective does and is invariably more engaging. Why watch another “these movies don’t like women and are therefore bad” video when I can learn about the Austrian Wine Poisoning, the Dolphin House, Deep Blue, the HaseKara Calamity/doxing saga, or TempleOS?

Pop Culture Detective got popular because he was on the “good” side of GamerGate, not because of any serious talent as a video essayist. While I do like some of his videos and agree with a lot of his points (e.g., why prison rape jokes are terrible), he’s hardly a standout.

But back on topic. My suggestions for little edits to better blend OT and PT would be to add back in the “this Sith Lord, sent by the Emperor, will be our undoing” line into ANH, the aforementioned Obi-Wan line tweaks, and maybe a little vision sequence in ROTJ to include a slight ROTS throwback (so Luke knows the face of young Anakin/Padme’s name). That way, an upgraded Hayden ghost (i.e., no Shaw body and a more wholesome smile) and Vader saying “Padme once thought as you do.” makes sense.

These are really good ideas, I especially like the one about adding Tagge’s Sith namedrop to ANH. Has anyone been able to find HD footage of that scene? I’ve only been able to find the hand-held celebration camera footage.

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Hoop28 said:

BedeHistory731 said:

G&G-Fan said:

His whole channel is overanalyzing things in the search for misogyny where none exists.

That and taking so long in between uploads it’d make Fredrik Knudsen/Atrocity Guide blush. Except your average Fredrik Knudsen video has five times the research that Pop Culture Detective does and is invariably more engaging. Why watch another “these movies don’t like women and are therefore bad” video when I can learn about the Austrian Wine Poisoning, the Dolphin House, Deep Blue, the HaseKara Calamity/doxing saga, or TempleOS?

Pop Culture Detective got popular because he was on the “good” side of GamerGate, not because of any serious talent as a video essayist. While I do like some of his videos and agree with a lot of his points (e.g., why prison rape jokes are terrible), he’s hardly a standout.

But back on topic. My suggestions for little edits to better blend OT and PT would be to add back in the “this Sith Lord, sent by the Emperor, will be our undoing” line into ANH, the aforementioned Obi-Wan line tweaks, and maybe a little vision sequence in ROTJ to include a slight ROTS throwback (so Luke knows the face of young Anakin/Padme’s name). That way, an upgraded Hayden ghost (i.e., no Shaw body and a more wholesome smile) and Vader saying “Padme once thought as you do.” makes sense.

These are really good ideas, I especially like the one about adding Tagge’s Sith namedrop to ANH. Has anyone been able to find HD footage of that scene? I’ve only been able to find the hand-held celebration camera footage.

I think it made its way into some Lost Cut footage, with far cleaner audio. It’s from the same camera set-up as Tagge’s later shot in the conference room scene, so it could be as easy as animating his lips to match the words.

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BedeHistory731 said:

I think it made its way into some Lost Cut footage, with far cleaner audio. It’s from the same camera set-up as Tagge’s later shot in the conference room scene, so it could be as easy as animating his lips to match the words.

That would be awesome, along with changing the ESB crawl to “Sith Lord” where it currently reads “evil lord”.

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I was going to make this suggestion as well! Seems like it would be the easiest way to name drop the Sith in the OT.

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I’d hope that single word could be tracked, masked out, and replaced seamlessly rather than recreating the entire crawl. Each of the OT’s crawls feel unique, especially ESB.

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Wasn’t Nev working on something where he was trying to replicate the movement of the original
Star Wars crawl? I’d be great if you could replicate the speed, blur and shakiness of those original crawls in After Effects. Basically simulating all those little imperfections that give it character.

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Idk, I think the Custom Crawl Creator on this site by JackPumpkinHead looks pretty fantastic when it comes to crawls. Then again, I prefer that more modern look so maybe that’s why.

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RogueLeader said:

Wasn’t Nev working on something where he was trying to replicate the movement of the original
Star Wars crawl? I’d be great if you could replicate the speed, blur and shakiness of those original crawls in After Effects. Basically simulating all those little imperfections that give it character.

Yep, I had a version that was pretty similar to the original in timing, but for replacing a single word it might not even need that much work. It would just need a starfield tracked to the gate weave of the original and then just cut out the word ‘evil’ and replace it with ‘Sith’. This could probably be tracked automatically in AE with enough precision with the rest of the crawl as a sort of 3D surface negating the need for replicating the entire crawl shape for the project.

Is the font for ESB’s crawl text the same as the original SW? If so, I made a custom font that is almost pixel accurate to that one so it should work fine if anyone wants to use it.

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But that’s getting a little off-track, since this is the OT edits to fit the PT and ST thread, not the PT and ST edits to fit the OT thread.

I feel like fitting any trilogy with any other ought to be allowed here, no? Then again, that might end overshadowing the OT edit ideas.

That would be awesome, along with changing the ESB crawl to “Sith Lord” where it currently reads “evil lord”.

I never noticed it said that! That’s such an obvious change to make, how come this is the first I’ve heard of anyone suggesting it?

I’d hope that single word could be tracked, masked out, and replaced seamlessly rather than recreating the entire crawl. Each of the OT’s crawls feel unique, especially ESB.

Call me a revisionist, but I prefer consistency, i.e. all crawls being formatted identically.

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Maybe it’s a consequence of thinking about the movies too much because of fanedits (or just re-evaluating things in the light of TCW, where it’s made super super obvious with Ahsoka’s arcs in Season 5 and 7) but I’ve always thought the Jedi and the Republic being pretty awful in the PT was text, not even subtext. Obviously there’s the stuff about them not bothering to do anything about slavery outside of Republic space (or to even free just Anakin’s mum which would take minimal effort), but then there’s the characterisation of Mace and Yoda, and the rest of the council occasionally, as generally being aloof, holier-than-thou, hypocritical monks up in their literal high tower - especially in TPM. Mace being a bit of a prick to Anakin is very on-the-nose at times. Also, lines like “You know, m’lady, that Count Dooku was once a Jedi. He couldn’t assassinate anyone.” are surely written to show us just how naïve and egotistical the Order has become.

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Someone started another thread for that topic so let’s drop it here and get back on track.