Idea: Non film/tv edits? (any interest in a Dark Disciple audiobook?)

I mean, the “legal area” of a fan edit is the same regardless of the source (film, TV, radio, book, comic, podcast, whatever) - there may be an argument for fair use, but overall, it’s a violation of copyright law.

As for the concept itself, I know that someone once tried to edit the Thrawn Trilogy comics to fit with the prequels (this was pre-ST), but I don’t think it was ever finished, and I don’t know of anyone who’s edited audio in the way you’re suggesting. It’s an intriguing idea!

I’d certainly be interested. I’d also be down for something akin to Loose Cannon’s still-image reconstructions of missing Doctor Who episodes to make some kind of visual to actually watch from the audiobook sources.

I like this idea! In case you wonder where to cut the episodes, I think it should be something like this:

Lethal Alliance, chapters 1-8
The Mission, 9-12
Conspirators, 13-21
Dark Disciple, 22-25

Saving Vos Part 1, 26-28
Saving Vos Part 2, 29-30
Traitor, 31-37
The Path, 38-42

Note that the first rescue attempt has to be in the first set of episodes since there are animatics of it and no animatics where made for the final production season where the second set of episodes are from. Concept art also helps with nailing down the first four episodes.

Delpheas said:

Thanks, that actually is a big help. I’m frustrated that even split in 8 we’ll have still have really long episodes.

The other thing I’m trying to figure out is where to place these episodes.

Season 7’s final version of Bad Batch and Ahsoka’s Walkabout really screwed the chronology, since I’m pretty sure all of Dark Disciple now has to take place after Ashoka’s Arc, but before Bad Batch…

According to the original scripts it would have been:
Ahsoka’s Walkabout, Bad Batch, Dark Disciple, Kashyyyk, Son of Dathomir, Rex/R2 arc, Saving Vos and then the rest of S8.

However, since Maul appears in Ahsoka’s Walkabout, the new timeline is probably: S6, Utapau, Dark Disciple, Son of Dathomir, Saving Vos, Ahsoka’s Walkabout, Bad Batch, Siege of Mandalore.

Delpheas said:

Except doesn’t Maug Krim die in Dark Disciple, meaning all of it would have to happen after Ahsoka’s Walkabout?

I’ve been operating on the assumption that it must now be

Season 6
Son of Dathomir(Kenobi still in his season 6 outfit)
Utapau
Ahsoka’s Walkabout
Dark Disciple
Saving Vos
Bad Batch
Siege of Mandalore

I just hate that Dark Disciple & Saving Vos take place over a long time, but there isn’t anything (other than the Kanan comics I guess) to fill in.

I think that’s implied but not necessarily confirmed, besides Krim has a cameo in Siege of Mandalore so it doesn’t really matter. Regarding Kenobi’s outfit, that’s really just an art mistake. Originally, Vos was going to appear as Dooku’s henchman in Son of Dathomir, so it is definitely supposed to take place between Dark Disciple and Saving Vos. However, I don’t think there is anything in particular besides this that actually forces this timeline placement.

Edit: Regarding the art error, Crystal Crisis has production codes 6.01-6.04 and Son of Dathomir has 6.21-6.24. Therefore, the new models created for Obi-Wan and Grievous for the Crystal Crisis arc would have been used for the Son of Dathomir episodes but the artist was probably unaware of this.

Delpheas said:

I missed the Krim cameo in SoM, if that’s the case it should be:

Dark Disciple
Son of Dathomir
Utapau
Ahsoka’s Walkabout
Saving Vos
Bad Batch
Siege of Mandalore

Making Dark Disciple the second to last arc of Season 6 as originally intended, with SoD as the season finale.

I think that works. It gives some time to pass between the two Dark Disciple arcs as well. Marg Krim appeared as a hologram with the other syndicate leaders in the previous episode.

Delpheas said:

gudenruben said:

Delpheas said:

I missed the Krim cameo in SoM, if that’s the case it should be:

Dark Disciple
Son of Dathomir
Utapau
Ahsoka’s Walkabout
Saving Vos
Bad Batch
Siege of Mandalore

Making Dark Disciple the second to last arc of Season 6 as originally intended, with SoD as the season finale.

I think that works. It gives some time to pass between the two Dark Disciple arcs as well. Marg Krim appeared as a hologram with the other syndicate leaders in the previous episode.

Ah, that makes sense.

I’ve split the episodes, and the runtimes are all over the place, from 40 minutes to two hours, which I’m not thrilled about. But unless I split them even more, so that some if the eps are in parts, idk what to do about it.

I figured that would be a problem. I’m guessing the Saving Vos parts are some of the shorter episodes. Since the scripts (and concept art) were completed for the first four episodes but not the second set of four episodes (where only sketches and a first draft of the scripts were completed), the first four episodes are longer in the book in general. I think it would be interesting to listen to the episodes as they were intended to be split regardless of length, but I agree that it is a bit of a problem that the length varies so much. The only way I can think of that would shorten the run time is to take the longer episodes and divide them in two, calling them Conspirators part 1 and Conspirators part 2 for example. Having thought about it for a couple of minutes, this might actually be a good solution.

What are the rough run times for the different parts?

Here is most of the concept art at least: https://imgur.com/a/qlQPQ. Some of the concept art is taken from panels and some of them were uploaded to the Star Wars website at some point.

The episodes that are about 2h could probably be split into two parts, that way most of the episodes will be about an hour long.

Edit: There are also clips from the animatics (of the first arc) available. Check the video called “Unfinished Clone Wars Scenes and episodes” on youtube.

This is such a cool idea! How is it coming along?

Delpheas said:

So there is other Star Wars non-movie material that is theoretically editable, namely audiobooks and radio dramas.

Do folks ever play around with editing them? I’m toying with editing the Dark Disciple audiobook to have the trappings of a The Clone Wars episode.

I’m curious if that is something folks would be interested in, and if editing an audiobook is in a different legal area than film/tv?

I also think that it would be cool to see more edits of other SW material, like comic books, radio dramas, audiobooks or even novels.

Recently I have been thinking about a fanedit of “Dark Empire” radio drama. To make a “canon edit” (or to be more precise, movie Canon at least), cutting all mentions of Jacen and Jaina, maybe somehow changing Anakin Solo into Ben Solo (and thus, reestablishing the timeline as shortly after OT), etc.
I think that this storyline would be a nice prologue to TROS. Knowing that Palatine already tried it before, it would make it less weird that nobody seemed too surprised he s back. I really believe it could fit nicely.

I also thought it’d be cool to edit the Thrawn novels (the original ones, from the old EU) making them fit into the movies timeline (remove some contradictions with the sequels, again, removing the twins, or rather changing them for Ben Solo).

Another idea I once had was that It may be cool to edit Star Wars Legacy comics, making the series a sequel to the ST, and making Cade Skywalker Rey’s great-grandson.