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Idea: Editing SW into a Game Of Thrones style tv series

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This idea would have more feasibility after the next few Disney films are done, so this is something to ponder for like 2024 or something.

By then we’d have:
Ep 1 2 3
Kenobi
Rogue 1
Han Solo
Boba Fett (Is this even happening?)
Ep 4 5 6
Ep 7 8 9
And then whatever comes after.

So let’s say we have the goal of making 1 hour episodes with each one ending with a climactic moment. Now, the strength of Thrones is that it has a lot of things happening at once, meaning there can be many little vignettes of different character moments.

Perhaps there can be a similar approach made with some of the films that have some crossover timelines.

Han Solo could POTENTIALLY cross over with Parts of Rogue 1’s time.
Boba Fett, depending on when it takes place, could also be a part of this. If it’s about Young Fett post-Sith, that would essentially make Han Solo, Fett, and Rogue ALMOST simultaneously. Could even take it one step further and add New Hope, making all 4 movies into a tv series season. A particularly ambitious editor may even be able to salvage parts of the the Christmas Special footage.

Meanwhile, perhaps a really really good editor could use all the deleted scenes from AOTC and ROTS to make various character moments (other Jedi, Padme’s family) just like Thrones uses different scenes to further character development.

The tougher ones are Phantom, which is 10 years too far back to be edited in, and Empire-Jedi, which are too far from the other ones to be spliced together. Only thing I can think of is to use a framing flashback device.

Maybe Phantom’s key scenes can be used in Anakin’s dreams in AOTC and Sith. I also had the idea of using Neeson’s OTHER movie footage of him in some vague swordfighting castle environments as part of his Jedi training–what if he had an entire adventure beforehand?

Empire and Jedi would have to be left alone, though I suppose if Fett takes place around Jedi it could be added in. It would take a genius of writing to use the only other footage of Ewoks (ewoks adventure) to turn Jedi’s story into Thrones episodes. This is wishful thinking, but what if that kid from Ewok’s adventures actually helped the Ewoks train to fight the empire? What if he’s one of the surviving Jedi? I dunno, rewrite him as the son of one of the few Jedi who survived.

In an ideal world, the footage of Rebels and other cartoons could be used, but the change in style is simply too jarring to pull that off. Same with most Video games, which is sad that it is too different to use. In a doubly ideal world, the fan film makers would come together to allow their films to become part of this Thrones version. If that WERE possible, this would make this entire project even better. Imaging watching the Maul fanfilm mixed with the Neeson training film.

It’s a lofty goal, but I do believe it’s doable, it doesn’t require NEW material per se, just careful editing and some dialogue rewrites to fit the framing mechanisms.

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That actually sounds really cool. Do you have any ideas about moving it forward?

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You say there’d be tons of movies to work with, but then go on to say that 3 of them are in the wrong timeframe. Also, ESB and RotJ are too far from the rest but the gap between RotS and ANH is no big deal? Even filling in that gap with spinoffs, you still have much big gaps. In your place, I would just use it all. If you wanted to, you could make TPM take place not long before AotC by simply making young Anakin a different character. Sure, it’s not a perfect solution, but it works. However, that doesn’t really matter when you’re still stuck with much larger time skips between trilogies that can’t be ironed out so easily. Maybe with a lot of work, you could pad out the gap between RotS and ANH using spinoffs (like placing RO opening where it would be chronoligcally mixed in with…some other stuff), but good luck trying to smoothly transition from RotJ to TFA.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

You say there’d be tons of movies to work with, but then go on to say that 3 of them are in the wrong timeframe. Also, ESB and RotJ are too far from the rest but the gap between RotS and ANH is no big deal? Even filling in that gap with spinoffs, you still have much big gaps. In your place, I would just use it all. If you wanted to, you could make TPM take place not long before AotC by simply making young Anakin a different character. Sure, it’s not a perfect solution, but it works. However, that doesn’t really matter when you’re still stuck with much larger time skips between trilogies that can’t be ironed out so easily. Maybe with a lot of work, you could pad out the gap between RotS and ANH using spinoffs (like placing RO opening where it would be chronoligcally mixed in with…some other stuff), but good luck trying to smoothly transition from RotJ to TFA.

Yeah, I realize. This project is definitely far too big for right now as there’s not enough live-action material. I’d have to wait until at least 5 years from now to have enough spinoff films to work with.

However, that being said…there may be another way to do this.

There’s several sci-fi/fantasy movies with the SW cast members that have them in scenarios that could be edited slightly to fit an anthology storyline.

Jon Boyega is in Pacific Rim 2.
Natalie Portman is in Annihilation.
Liam Neeson is in several fantasy films pre-Phantom Menace.
Harrison Ford is in Blade Runner, Cowboys and Aliens, Ender’s Game
Voiceovers by Mark Hamill in cartoons.
Daisy Ridley’s voiceover work in The Eagle Huntress
Plus more examples that I’ll be looking for over time, including video game cutscenes and voice acting.

All of these examples would have to be heavily trimmed, possibly even using foreign dubs and subtitles, but I think it’s possible to fit them into Star Wars.

In fact I think it would be a good idea for the fanedit community as a whole to have a list of potential OTHER movies that some lines of dialogue and shots could be plausibly used.

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A lot of people like movie series ‘box sets’ because they don’t have time or patience in an evening to watch a full length movie so I can see the logic.

But couldn’t you just watch about half of the film and then watch the next half another night?
I’ve done that before with the Extended Editions of LOTR, which came on two discs and so lent itself to taking a break.

For the original trilogy how about…
Stopping Star Wars after the Falcon takes off from Mos Eisley seems like a good spot.
Stopping ESB after Luke takes off from Hoth.
Stopping ROTJ after Jabba’s sail barge explodes.

I don’t see why it needs to get much more complicated than that?

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thebluefrog said:

There’s several sci-fi/fantasy movies with the SW cast members that have them in scenarios that could be edited slightly to fit an anthology storyline.

Jon Boyega is in Pacific Rim 2.
Natalie Portman is in Annihilation.
Liam Neeson is in several fantasy films pre-Phantom Menace.
Harrison Ford is in Blade Runner, Cowboys and Aliens, Ender’s Game
Voiceovers by Mark Hamill in cartoons.
Daisy Ridley’s voiceover work in The Eagle Huntress
Plus more examples that I’ll be looking for over time, including video game cutscenes and voice acting.

All of these examples would have to be heavily trimmed, possibly even using foreign dubs and subtitles, but I think it’s possible to fit them into Star Wars.

In fact I think it would be a good idea for the fanedit community as a whole to have a list of potential OTHER movies that some lines of dialogue and shots could be plausibly used.

That’s great and all, but that’s not gonna be enough to create entire new episodes. If it were that easy, I would’ve made new Eighth Doctor adventures long ago.

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In an ideal world, the footage of Rebels and other cartoons could be used, but the change in style is simply too jarring to pull that off. Same with most Video games, which is sad that it is too different to use.

I’d say EA’s Battlefront is close enough, so long as you don’t see any faces. Then again, the same could be said about CG Tarkin. If Tarkin is passable, maybe we just ignore the same slight offness in the Battlefront faces and use footage from that. It would provide at least 2 hours worth of content to fill the otherwise jarring gap between RotJ and TFA.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

In an ideal world, the footage of Rebels and other cartoons could be used, but the change in style is simply too jarring to pull that off. Same with most Video games, which is sad that it is too different to use.

I’d say EA’s Battlefront is close enough, so long as you don’t see any faces. Then again, the same could be said about CG Tarkin. If Tarkin is passable, maybe we just ignore the same slight offness in the Battlefront faces and use footage from that. It would provide at least 2 hours worth of content to fill the otherwise jarring gap between RotJ and TFA.

Clone wars arcs???

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Anakin Starkiller said:

thebluefrog said:

There’s several sci-fi/fantasy movies with the SW cast members that have them in scenarios that could be edited slightly to fit an anthology storyline.

Jon Boyega is in Pacific Rim 2.
Natalie Portman is in Annihilation.
Liam Neeson is in several fantasy films pre-Phantom Menace.
Harrison Ford is in Blade Runner, Cowboys and Aliens, Ender’s Game
Voiceovers by Mark Hamill in cartoons.
Daisy Ridley’s voiceover work in The Eagle Huntress
Plus more examples that I’ll be looking for over time, including video game cutscenes and voice acting.

All of these examples would have to be heavily trimmed, possibly even using foreign dubs and subtitles, but I think it’s possible to fit them into Star Wars.

In fact I think it would be a good idea for the fanedit community as a whole to have a list of potential OTHER movies that some lines of dialogue and shots could be plausibly used.

That’s great and all, but that’s not gonna be enough to create entire new episodes. If it were that easy, I would’ve made new Eighth Doctor adventures long ago.

You are probably right, there’s just not enough material. Perhaps a much much smaller project could utilize the footage. Like, say, a 10 minute short about Qui-Gon’s training.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50

I’m sure some of that footage could be edited and redubbed as young Qui-Gon’s early Jedi days or something.

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thebluefrog said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

thebluefrog said:

There’s several sci-fi/fantasy movies with the SW cast members that have them in scenarios that could be edited slightly to fit an anthology storyline.

Jon Boyega is in Pacific Rim 2.
Natalie Portman is in Annihilation.
Liam Neeson is in several fantasy films pre-Phantom Menace.
Harrison Ford is in Blade Runner, Cowboys and Aliens, Ender’s Game
Voiceovers by Mark Hamill in cartoons.
Daisy Ridley’s voiceover work in The Eagle Huntress
Plus more examples that I’ll be looking for over time, including video game cutscenes and voice acting.

All of these examples would have to be heavily trimmed, possibly even using foreign dubs and subtitles, but I think it’s possible to fit them into Star Wars.

In fact I think it would be a good idea for the fanedit community as a whole to have a list of potential OTHER movies that some lines of dialogue and shots could be plausibly used.

That’s great and all, but that’s not gonna be enough to create entire new episodes. If it were that easy, I would’ve made new Eighth Doctor adventures long ago.

You are probably right, there’s just not enough material. Perhaps a much much smaller project could utilize the footage. Like, say, a 10 minute short about Qui-Gon’s training.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50

I’m sure some of that footage could be edited and redubbed as young Qui-Gon’s early Jedi days or something.

You could use kotor mini shorts as one episode then jump to phatom menace then attack of the clones then arcs of the clone wars in order of Domino squad,Second Battle of Geonosis, Bounty hunter obi wan, Umbara arc,Night sisters, Return of darth mual, ashokas final arc,then yodas arc,
Then revenge of the sith then rogue one then star wars then empire strikes back then return of the jedi then force awakens then last jedi then episode 9.
That alone can fill 4 seasons

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HerekittykittyX said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

In an ideal world, the footage of Rebels and other cartoons could be used, but the change in style is simply too jarring to pull that off. Same with most Video games, which is sad that it is too different to use.

I’d say EA’s Battlefront is close enough, so long as you don’t see any faces. Then again, the same could be said about CG Tarkin. If Tarkin is passable, maybe we just ignore the same slight offness in the Battlefront faces and use footage from that. It would provide at least 2 hours worth of content to fill the otherwise jarring gap between RotJ and TFA.

Clone wars arcs???

The visuals need to remain roughly the same throughout. We can’t use the stylized CW (either version), Rebels, or Forces of Destiny (bet you forgot that was a thing), but we can use the photorealistic CG cinematics of EA Battlefront 2, and, as you brilliantly suggest, the OR trailers. I would try to avoid time skips though. Part of what makes this project interesting is that it would theoretically flow seemlessly from TPM or earlier up to Episode IX, without any significant time skips. Not exactly sure what parts of the OR trailers would be really usable, though.

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thebluefrog said:

You are probably right, there’s just not enough material. Perhaps a much much smaller project could utilize the footage. Like, say, a 10 minute short about Qui-Gon’s training.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50

I’m sure some of that footage could be edited and redubbed as young Qui-Gon’s early Jedi days or something.

Nah, it looks too distinctly non-SW. There’s candles, renaissance wigs all sorts of stuff like that.

I have an idea for a source of footage that could be used to great advantage: Saruman from Lord of the Rings as Count Dooku. At some point before the Clone Wars break out, Jedi Master Dooku Serenno (the planet he is Count of) for longer than usual. The Council sends master Gandalf to find out what he’s up to, and discover he has allied with the dark lord Sauron Darth Sidious. They have a Force-off, and Gandalf loses. Seeing as he would suddenly disappear from the plot if the Eagles save him, best to leave Gandalf dead at Dooku’s hands. And that crystal ball he uses is totally the Gungan’s plasma sphere from the end of TPM. I’m not sure what it’s power should be, but it should have some significance.

In case it somehow hadn’t come to mind, we ought to integrate the fanfilm Darth Maul: Apprentice. It’s around 20 minutes, but I suggest we trim it to avoid feeling like filler (it’s just one long fight scene) and use it to show Darth Maul doing other things before TPM. Not too sure how we could tie it into the plot.

As someone who hasn’t seen Blade Runner, I’m guessing there must be some stuff we can use in there. It’s probably not much, though. Maybe there’s enough between it and its recent sequel to show a bit of what Han’s up to between RotJ and TFA.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

thebluefrog said:

You are probably right, there’s just not enough material. Perhaps a much much smaller project could utilize the footage. Like, say, a 10 minute short about Qui-Gon’s training.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50

I’m sure some of that footage could be edited and redubbed as young Qui-Gon’s early Jedi days or something.

Nah, it looks too distinctly non-SW. There’s candles, renaissance wigs all sorts of stuff like that.

I have an idea for a source of footage that could be used to great advantage: Saruman from Lord of the Rings as Count Dooku. At some point before the Clone Wars break out, Jedi Master Dooku Serenno (the planet he is Count of) for longer than usual. The Council sends master Gandalf to find out what he’s up to, and discover he has allied with the dark lord Sauron Darth Sidious. They have a Force-off, and Gandalf loses. Seeing as he would suddenly disappear from the plot if the Eagles save him, best to leave Gandalf dead at Dooku’s hands. And that crystal ball he uses is totally the Gungan’s plasma sphere from the end of TPM. I’m not sure what it’s power should be, but it should have some significance.

In case it somehow hadn’t come to mind, we ought to integrate the fanfilm Darth Maul: Apprentice. It’s around 20 minutes, but I suggest we trim it to avoid feeling like filler (it’s just one long fight scene) and use it to show Darth Maul doing other things before TPM. Not too sure how we could tie it into the plot.

As someone who hasn’t seen Blade Runner, I’m guessing there must be some stuff we can use in there. It’s probably not much, though. Maybe there’s enough between it and its recent sequel to show a bit of what Han’s up to between RotJ and TFA.

I agree about darth mual and blade runner. scrap the lord of the ring idea

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Anakin Starkiller said:

What’s wrong with using the LotR scene?

One why use lord of the rings footage.

Two most people will pick up on this.

Three Gandalf doesn’t sound like a jedi name and they explain in attack of the Clones that Yoda is count dookus master and star wars a greddy future not fantasy.

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I think you’d have much better luck turning the films into short format serials. Each film could be broken down into four or five 20 to 30 minute episodes.

Something like this would really solve a lot of problems in each film. You can basically cut out whatever you want (silliness, over the top action, boring exposition, etc).

If each episode has its own crawl (maybe the first mini-episode of each ‘season’ would have a standard length crawl and the remaining ones would be much shorter), it would really allow you to finesse the timeline and fill in any necessary information without relying on every single scene from the films.

It would really allow for a much more streamlined and customizable experience, without relying on the need to fill in blanks using outside footage.

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HerekittykittyX said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

What’s wrong with using the LotR scene?

One why use lord of the rings footage.

Two most people will pick up on this.

Three Gandalf doesn’t sound like a jedi name and they explain in attack of the Clones that Yoda is count dookus master and star wars a greddy future not fantasy.

Since the definitive versions of the SW saga will always be movies to me. They can be fanedits, but they should still be seperated into the Episodes they are traditionally known as. Thus, I see this project more as an alternative than a replacement. Consequently, I think this should be more experimental in an attempt to make the story as long as possible without losing cohesion or becoming boring. I see it as a fun challenge. I don’t know if that’s what the OP intended, but tbf, he opened the can of worms of using other films’ footage.

People picking up on it being from LotR is besides the point.

I was just calling Gandalf to discuss the scene cuz that’s his name in the film. Presumably, he would have a different name. I didn’t say he was Dooku’s master, just a master. Actually, SW is both gritty futurism and fantasy, but I get what you mean; Middle-Earth doesn’t look like SW. Here’s the thing; we would only be using the walk in the woods by the tower, which could easily be SW (haven’t ever seen a SW fan film?) and the fight scene, which takes place in a room that looks no less SW than the Emperor’s throne room, or Snoke’s, for that matter.

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It’s not a bad idea, Anakin Starkiller. It would take heavy editing of the dialogue, possibly to the point of redubbing from OTHER Lee films, but it’s potentially feasible. The thing about editing in OTHER movies is that it has to flow somehow, otherwise it breaks suspension of viewer’s belief. So in other words, it can’t cut from Han talking in 1977 Falcon to 2001 LOTR camerawork.

I think the best possible way to do something like this is to make it really really really small clips, like Clone Wars Cartoon style vignettes, barely 5 minutes at most. Tell tiny little stories that fans COULD imagine were part of a larger narrative. Edit other small snippets of other movies into plausible SW scenarios.

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I wouldn’t too much about a dissonance in how advanced the camerawork is. I think it’s something that’s easy enough to overlook. At most you might need to add a shot or two that fit modern standards into OT so they feel less out of place, but much of that has already been done with the SE anyways.

In regards to episode length, how about the standard 22 minutes? I certainly don’t think it should be cut down to the length of a single scene.

Also, I’ve been thinking of adding a slight visual filter to hide the difference between lifelike CG cinematics and actual live-action. This could perhaps also help hide the difference in style between scenes shot in different decades. Maybe it could even hide film defects in OT deleted scenes. Idk. Just a though.

Btw, you should probably remove the Boba Fett film from you intial post, since that’s definitely not happening ATM.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I wouldn’t too much about a dissonance in how advanced the camerawork is. I think it’s something that’s easy enough to overlook. At most you might need to add a shot or two that fit modern standards into OT so they feel less out of place, but much of that has already been done with the SE anyways.

In regards to episode length, how about the standard 22 minutes? I certainly don’t think it should be cut down to the length of a single scene.

Also, I’ve been thinking of adding a slight visual filter to hide the difference between lifelike CG cinematics and actual live-action. This could perhaps also help hide the difference in style between scenes shot in different decades. Maybe it could even hide film defects in OT deleted scenes. Idk. Just a though.

Btw, you should probably remove the Boba Fett film from you intial post, since that’s > definitely not happening ATM.

I’ll edit that out.

The thing I said above about this project being far too big for several years from now is still an issue. There’s just not enough material in the same eras to make it work. Unless it had a ton of flashbacks, there’s no way to reconcile the 3 different eras. So for a character anthology-style series like Thrones, which intercuts between different characters but at the same time, I’d need way way way more movies set in the same era.

So if they release Kenobi in like 2020, MAYBE there’s a way to edit in:

Solo - Kenobi - Rogue 1

together.

Until then, there just isn’t enough material. But I think there will be, someday.

That being said…maybe this project can take a different identity. I think the shorter vignette style is the way to go, just like the original Tartakovsky clone wars. Your LOTR idea has merit, but the issue is also that Sauruman looks so different than Dooku. I don’t have the digital editing skills to change Sauruman’s hair, so it would break any suspension of belief of the viewer.

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I just figured Dooku got a haircut afterwards. You could say it’s his new Dark Side look.

And you didn’t remove themention of the Boba Fett filme. You just added “(is this even happening?)”, to which I can say it certainly is not.

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I very much like this idea

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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Interestingly, the opening scenes of both Rogue One and Solo take place the same year.

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Even if they were combined into a single episode, they wouldn’t flow at all. Solo, Rogue One, and Kenobi all tell separate stories and feasibly combining them will be near impossible.

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