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The version Gareth Edwards saw was likely the current Disney+ version since it was in the works at the time.

Almost certainly since he mentioned at the time they just completed a new 4K restoration.

I remember him mentioning/referring that it was the actual original version. Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me. If he didn’t then yes, it certainly would be the D+ version.

I remember this to. He said it had the original effects and everything. He watched it around filming Rouge One.

And around the same time a box was found in the falcon room. With many unused/ used footage.

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Over at TSWT

"Think they’re referring to this interview. He doesn’t necessarily specify which version.

https://lwlies.com/interviews/gareth-edwards-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story/

“On day one, we were in Lucasfilm in San Francisco with Industrial Light and Magic and John Knoll, our supervisor, he said that they’ve got a brand new 4K restoration print of A New Hope – it had literally just been finished. He suggested we sit and watch it. Obviously, I was up for that. Me, the writer, lots of the story people and John all sat down, we all had our little notepads, we were all ready for this. I’ll add that I’ve seen A New Hope hundreds of times. So I was sat there, ready to take notes and really delve under the surface of the film. You have the Fox fanfare, then scrolling text with ‘A long time ago…’, and then the main music begins. Next thing we knew it had ended, and we looked around to one another and just thought – shit, we didn’t take any notes. You can’t watch it without getting carried away. It’s really hard to get into an analytical filmmaker headspace with this film. It just turns you into a child.”"

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This Wednesday…

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Well they just dropped the whole series in one go. Just watched the first 3 eps. LOTS of unseen stuff for Star Wars, not so much new stuff for ESB, but there is still quite a bit. It’s probably going to be a lot less for ROTJ because the next ep is going to feature Indy and other projects ILM were working on by the looks of it, while the first 2 were Star Wars and the third was mainly ESB. The footage they are showing for the unaltered versions looks different to what was in the trailers, less processed, but i’d need to do proper comparisons to know for sure. These are obvious rough scans from prints, and definitely not 4k scans because they do lack detail, especially when compared to 4k77, 83 etc.

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just watched the first 2 episodes and loving it so far , like adywan said , lots of previously unseen stuff . Was surprised to learn the actual story of the design of the Falcon straight from Joe Johnston …for years I had read behind the scenes accounts in making of books , film magazines etc ,that it was based on a hamburger with an olive to the side that George Lucas was eating . The Steve Sansweet book Star Wars From Concept To Screen To Collectible was one of those sources .Turns out there was a hamburger mentioned in regards to the look of the finished model , but only after the final design was completed . And while it is great to see documentary footage and the craftsman being interviewed , Disney really needs to do the right thing and make the work of those academy award winners available and honor them by putting the original theatrical cut on the platform for all to enjoy .

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Exciting to see some of this unseen stuff! I’ve only watched episode 1/2 so far, but it’s great seeing this footage. They finally showed off a cut of the trench run with the Dam Busters footage too!

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Weren’t there rumours (maybe two or three years ago) that Lucasfilm or Disney was scanning and digitalizing all SW material they have in the archives? By the look of it, they have indeed - or are still doing it. Just look at all this perfect quality BTS material, especially the crew footage of ILM.

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Roobyoo said:

Weren’t there rumours (maybe two or three years ago) that Lucasfilm or Disney was scanning and digitalizing all SW material they have in the archives? By the look of it, they have indeed - or are still doing it. Just look at all this perfect quality BTS material, especially the crew footage of ILM.

They were. I also wouldn’t be surprised if some of the workers had their own footage as well, bringing in their own home movie cameras and saving that footage in their basements for years.

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This looks to have tons of footage from either a workprint version of the film or a scan from the entire film but without tochups done to it. I would love to have the full film in this format.

Looks like a real movie. This is great. Clearly Disney made a new scan of the original movie, these are not from the GOUT DVD or the Special Editions, these clips are very film like and very raw.

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Wish they considered this more of an ongoing series than a one time production. The early episodes seeing the home movies of each of the major players was fantastic, to understand their energy and passion from an early age. Would like to see more of that as they worked through the next few decades and new teams.

Having seen this version, would have capped Kasdan’s producing on the era he was a part of, the physical model stage. But for the transition to computers i’d have made a second series and find someone to produce who was more involved. The computer stuff all seemed rushed. Enjoyed that they did bring a bunch of new faces into the documentary, and these later episodes an ode to the transition which Dennis Muren had chosen and Phil Tippett was being forced into. This second series could expand on the digital tool development and these early projects, but then alluding to the sequel trilogy return of the understanding of when it was more efficient to go practical with the SFX as well as their TV production work. A third series could focus on how ILM stayed focused on the advancement of systems of computer technology while the home computer revolution gave them new competition, the problem of trying to always be one step ahead.

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Wish they considered this more of an ongoing series than a one time production. The early episodes seeing the home movies of each of the major players was fantastic, to understand their energy and passion from an early age. Would like to see more of that as they worked through the next few decades and new teams.

Yes, I absolutely agree. It was noticeable there was no discussion of the 1997 Special Edition or later SE changes with CGI, that the Prequels only got a 10 minute segment, and nothing much at all for the Sequels. It was an enjoyable series until the last episode where it felt too rushed.

The Jurassic Park and Terminator sections were also good to watch. Though the series was at its strongest when focusing on the Original Trilogy era. But I may be biased! 😃

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I’m gonna have to do some side by side comparisons but I’m 99% sure that all the shot’s from Empire are from TN1’s Grindhouse version and I have a feeling that the Star Wars shots might actually be from the Silverscreen Edition.

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100% would not be surprised if that was the case. People at the company have known about all this stuff (and this place) for quite awhile now, and I believe some of them have even mentioned on social media that they’ve used fan restorations (including yours, Harmy) as reference for various projects.

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Harmy said:

I’m gonna have to do some side by side comparisons but I’m 99% sure that all the shot’s from Empire are from TN1’s Grindhouse version and I have a feeling that the Star Wars shots might actually be from the Silverscreen Edition.

I said this out loud when I saw it. Though seeing the comparison it does look like a different film source, it’s weird that the best source Disney could find for a print is essentially the same as something this community had several years ago and has since surpassed.

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Adywan did mention that the detail levels were less than those of 4K77. Silver Screen/a release print would fit that qualification. Shadow detail seemed a bit high for a release print though, right?

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Rancor022 said:

Some of the dirt and scratches are identical, but some aren’t. The similar spots are probably just specks from compositing though, which of course would be the same no matter the scan. The D+ version seems to be a tiny bit less cropped as well.

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https://i.ibb.co/JyTMNJq/vlcsnap-2022-08-03-20h23m38s842.png

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https://i.ibb.co/PGSNt48/vlcsnap-2022-08-03-20h26m07s392.png

I hope we get more screenshots soon. I need to figure how to do screenshots.

Just goes to show that they “still” have sources of their own. And they shouldn’t butcher it with DNR or stylized colors.

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Well, I’m watching the final episode now and I can tell you they are 100% for sure using the fan-made Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0 release - I compared it and it’s pixel-for-pixel exactly the same, except they graded it a tiny bit more towards teal.

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Harmy said:

Well, I’m watching the final episode now and I can tell you they are 100% for sure using the fan-made Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0 release - I compared it and it’s pixel-for-pixel exactly the same, except they graded it a tiny bit more towards teal.

We’ve come full circle.

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Harmy said:

Well, I’m watching the final episode now and I can tell you they are 100% for sure using the fan-made Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0 release - I compared it and it’s pixel-for-pixel exactly the same, except they graded it a tiny bit more towards teal.

Wow I don’t know if I should say that’s awesome or what. So a scan from fans but a bit more teal. Interesting.👍

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Hot Noodles over at TSWT.com
https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/ilm-disney-6-part-documentary.3214/page-4#post-64184

“Here’s a few screenshots of Light & Magic vs SSE. I simply did a screen recording of the documentary (using Quicktime) of the shots I wanted to get screen grabs from. Probably not as high-quality as other ways, but you still get the idea that they are different sources. The Silver Screen Edition cleaned up many or the marks and dirt that are so apparent on the documentary”

One day we will have properly restored versions of the Original Unaltered Trilogy (OUT); or 1977, 1980, 1983 Theatrical released versions (Like 4K77,4K80 and 4K83); including Prequels. So that future generations can enjoy these historic films that changed cinema forever.

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