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Okay, dude, for the love of *insert deity here*, this forum has an edit function, so you don't have to post four bloody times in a row. You're not doing a whole hell of a lot to refute Gaffer's "not too terribly intelligent" comment.

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Ok this is my last response in this thread. I'm not even going to look at it anymore, but I must address this supreme ignorance.

Originally posted by: chrisdo

We lost the war because we made war against all and everybody.
We should have kept our alliance with stalin, we should not have
attacked russia.



Oh yes that was one of the larger reasons, but Germany still could’ve won if they hadn’t allowed racism to dictate their actions. The Ukrainians welcomed you and wanted to work with you AGAINST the Russians. Instead they became some of the most effective anti-Nazi partisans in the war.

Originally posted by: chrisdo
The nuclear problem did not count for germany, because war was
over before and as far as i am informed, most of the radioactive
material in the first bombs came from a germun submarine that
surrendered.

The German Atomic program began years before the American program. We surpassed the Nazis for two reasons:

1. We combined our efforts with the Brits.
2. We had Albert Einstein to push ours along.

If Germany had Einstein and a head start they would’ve had atomic weapons in time to make a difference. I wonder how Frederick der Grosse felt about your nations intolerant policies. I would imagine the man that welcomed the Huguenots was turning over in his grave when he watched racism chase the greatest mind of the 20th Century from the “Fatherland.”

Originally posted by: chrisdo

And it will be your doom one day.



That's what the Soviets said.

Originally posted by: chrisdo
The Comunism has been the utopia of the 20th century, your
diversity will be the utopia of theis century.

Our experiment in diversity was already several centuries old when Marx wrote the manifesto and was quite advanced when the Russians tried their little failed bit. Benjamin Franklin was complaining about too many Germans in America when Marx was just a gleam in his father's eye.


Originally posted by: chrisdo
Both sound so good and human in the beginning, and both
will fail because humans ar not perfect. Communism faild
because of the personal greed of the individual, Diversity
will fail becaus most people just cannot accept each other.

You want a proof? Look at America, there are still many
black quarters in the citys and many white quarters. the
private live of most people is not at all diversified.


Nice generalization. You want proof? I have a black brother-in-law, a black nephew and eight Latino (technically Tejano because they are native Texans) cousins. I’ve had someone of every race and every major religion over for dinner in my home. Have you even had a conversation with a black man?


Originally posted by: chrisdo
And now take a look at europe:

London, great britain, the arabs who bombed the subway,
have grown up in england in wonderful diversity, breed
by the social system of the UK.

Paris, France, the arabs and worse from the suburbs, also
breed by theyr social insurance, burnt 1000s of cars of the
people who pay the social fees. Thats the way they thank
them for feeding them with their taxes.


Why would I look to Europe for lessons in diversity? Europe is FAR behind the US in racial relations. If someone threw banana’s at a black athlete in America and called them a monkey they would be kicked out of the game by stadium authorities and then have their ASS beaten by any number of people.

Meanwhile FIFA fans are allowed to mock Ibrahim Salou with total impunity. What a crock of shit.


Originally posted by: chrisdo

Oh yes, if you dont know what you else can do with
some airplanes, arab ideas are fine ???



I was thinking more of Arabic numerals. You know the numbers on your Euros?


Originally posted by: chrisdo

We are no paradise anymore. Paradise is lost, did you
forget that we are forced to live the american way???


Chris


Yep we’re assholes alright. We forced the longest period of peace and prosperity on Germany since the middle ages. We suck so bad.

Look I love many things about Germany, but your best days are in the rear-view mirror. Don’t start acting like the French and get all pissy about it. Emulate the Brits, they know how to pass a baton with dignity and class and are respected and adored by most Americans as a result.

Our diversity has made us strong for hundreds of years now. With each passing day our nation becomes more diverse and more united. Say it sucks while Hip-Hop plays in clubs along the Rhine. Say it’s foolish when Mexico Lindos is the most popular restaurant in Mainz. Say diversity will be our downfall as your nation tries to emulate it. The fucking Turks made Donner Kabobs one of the most popular foods in Germany. That’s where we were about a hundred years ago. To quote Ben Kenobi, “Who’s the more foolish…the fool or the fool that follows him?”
"Look, going good against bashers/gushers is one thing. Going good against the living? That's something else."
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“I also thought George could be turned back to the good side. It couldn't be done. He is more CGI now than story. Twisted and evil.”
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> I'm not even going to look at it anymore,
> but I must address this supreme ignorance.

Sadly so i have nothing to say anymore.
it is getting boring.

Chris
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Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
Why would I look to Europe for lessons in diversity? Europe is FAR behind the US in racial relations. If someone threw banana’s at a black athlete in America and called them a monkey they would be kicked out of the game by stadium authorities and then have their ASS beaten by any number of people.

Meanwhile FIFA fans are allowed to mock Ibrahim Salou with total impunity. What a crock of shit.
I must step in here. While I can't speak for the rest of Europe, I can speak for England, and I have to ask you to not tar us with that brush. I have been all over America and with the exceptions of the major cities (especially NY and LA) nowhere compares to my home, London, for racial equalilty and acceptance. London is well known as being one of, if not THE, most ethnically diverse places in teh World. We have the largest Mosque outside of the Eastern World. I had a Mosque at the end of my street. My best friend growing up was black and I didn't even notice. My own Grandmother is an immigrant from Italy. I am just as angered by monkey comments like the ones you mention as you are, but let me tell you, the American Midwest (where I am currently staying) is FAR less tolerant of different races than England. I can't tell you how many time I've heard the 'N' word since I've been here. It's actually quite shocking. Even I am treated strangely, and I'm White (but not a good ol' USA boy and therefore 'different'). And on top of that, the status of the female in these parts is about 50 years behind what I am used to. And you can forget about being gay here too.

Look, we all know Chrisdo is a dick, but can we please stop all this German bashing and generalising about Europeans? I don't even really consider England to be part of Europe, but I'm getting a bit offended here.

War does not make one great.

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Yeah, this whole thing is starting to make me uncomfortable as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mississippi in the general sense is as bad (if not worse) than North Dakota, although I can't say I've seen much in terms of bigotry that matches the stereotype (although we more than meet our quota for dumb hicks).

This is going to sound really stupid, but I've never really thought about it, despite the fact that I must have known it sub-consciously. You must have a strong British accent, don't you, YIYF? That was practically rhetorical, just so I don't sound completely ridiculous. In case you haven't noticed, text doesn't lend itself to dialects very well. But, yeah, that must sound pretty out of place in ND. I'd like to hear more about your experiences with the "natives." While we get a lot of Asians here, I can't seem to recall ever encountering a single person from the British Isles here.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Yeah I have a London accent. Have you seen Lock, Stock and two smoking barrels? The original Italian Job (or any early Michael Caine film)? That's pretty much how I sound.

It's kinda late so I'll share my ND experiences with you in detail another time, but suffice to say it's kinda frustrating being here sometimes. Some people are nice though and like to hear me talk, so they're not all bad. But noone is really seems to know anything about my country or it's people, and considering it's one of the most powerful and influencial nations, and also USA's main partner in the Iraq war, I find that surprising. I may as well come from Timbuctoo for all they know.

I think I will write a big essay about my experiences as an Englishman in ND.

War does not make one great.

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I think George Lucas opened a big debate when he made the SE version of the Star Wars Trilogy. I for one am looking forward to the new DVD coming out in Sept. Anamorphic or not I'd like to see Star Wars on DVD. Unfortunately I can see the day when the 1997 SE version is released on DVD, for completion. It's a shame because the only things I didn't like about SE was the jedi rocks scene in ROTJ, Luke screaming during his fall at the end of ESB and Han not shooting first in ANH. Why change what worked? I think the guys at Lucasfilm need to be reminded about the old saying, IF SOMETHING"S NOT BROKE DON'T FIX IT!
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I think I will write a big essay about my experiences as an Englishman in ND.


I'm looking forward to reading it.

Hope I didn't sound too stupid in my last post. Of course I knew you had to have a British dialect. All I hear around here is that annoying Southern American dialect. Hope I'm not offending anybody, but I've lived here most of my life, so I think I'm allowed to say it. I hate the southern dialect. There are some variations that sound relatively charming, but others are just downright grating to my ears.

Interesting (at least I think so) story. My girlfriend was born in the "delta" and had a very thick accent as a little girl. When she showed me home movies of herself, I couldn't stop laughing because she sounds so different. When she got to be a certain age, she actually taught herself not to speak that way and to adopt a more "standard American". She helped tweak her dialect by, amazingly, emulating The Beatles.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I am slightly concerned that over time I will lose my accent. Even after being here only 6 weeks I already notice myself altering my speech slightly, mainly in order to be understood - Despite the fact I am speaking English, people in ND are so sheltered that they have never been exposed to speech variations and therefore don't seem to be able to understand what I am saying (which surprises me becuase surely they have heard foreigners on TV?). Hopefully the need to alter my speech will cease to be a problem when I get to Los Angeles.

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I know I have a tendency, if I'm in a long conversation with someone who has a very distinct or different (from me) dialect to begin to emulate how they speak. But even though I've been in Mississippi for 12 years, I have yet to actually incorporate a Southernisms into my everyday speech. So I don't think you have too much to worry about. Just keep it in check. ^_~

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
Why would I look to Europe for lessons in diversity? Europe is FAR behind the US in racial relations. If someone threw banana’s at a black athlete in America and called them a monkey they would be kicked out of the game by stadium authorities and then have their ASS beaten by any number of people.

Meanwhile FIFA fans are allowed to mock Ibrahim Salou with total impunity. What a crock of shit.
I must step in here. While I can't speak for the rest of Europe, I can speak for England, and I have to ask you to not tar us with that brush. I have been all over America and with the exceptions of the major cities (especially NY and LA) nowhere compares to my home, London, for racial equalilty and acceptance. London is well known as being one of, if not THE, most ethnically diverse places in teh World. We have the largest Mosque outside of the Eastern World. I had a Mosque at the end of my street. My best friend growing up was black and I didn't even notice. My own Grandmother is an immigrant from Italy. I am just as angered by monkey comments like the ones you mention as you are, but let me tell you, the American Midwest (where I am currently staying) is FAR less tolerant of different races than England. I can't tell you how many time I've heard the 'N' word since I've been here. It's actually quite shocking. Even I am treated strangely, and I'm White (but not a good ol' USA boy and therefore 'different'). And on top of that, the status of the female in these parts is about 50 years behind what I am used to. And you can forget about being gay here too.

Look, we all know Chrisdo is a dick, but can we please stop all this German bashing and generalising about Europeans? I don't even really consider England to be part of Europe, but I'm getting a bit offended here.


Sorry about that, YIYF. I'm not sure about Darth-Adroit, but I wasn't really serious with my German bashing. I was just sort of exaggerating chrisdo's rationale to make a point and to maybe get him the hint of just how stupid he was sounding. Sorry for any offense; I've got nothin' against Europe (for the most part, anyway )

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Don't worry about it man. I really don't consider England to be part of Europe. We are an independent island with more in common with the US than mainland Europe. I'm not actually all that big a fan of Europe myself. And Darth Adroit and I have been corresponding by e-mail so we're cool. The only dick in this thread is Chrisdo, and it looks like he's buggered off now.

War does not make one great.

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HELLO US BOYS

Here are Bad News from Germany

Soccer World Cup Group E

1. Italy 5:1 +4 7
2. Ghana 4:3 +1 6
3. Tschechia 3:4 -1 3
4. USA 3 2:6 -4 1

Ihr könnt nachause Fahrn,
Ihr könnt nachause Fahrn,
Ihr könnt, Ihr könnt nachhause Fahrn!

*singing*
You can go home,
You can go home,
You can, you can, you can go home

Chris
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Hey Chrisdo, I got a question for you. You love to diss English and US football right? But the German Coach, Jurgen Klinsman played for years in England (for my local team, Tottenham), and now he lives in California, where he picked up a number of American training ideas and introduced them to German soccer. If I remember correctly Germany have been pretty shit in the past few years (They got by on luck in '02. And remember when England beat them 5-1 in '01?), and Klinsman is behind their return to form. And I think you'll find a number of your team plays in England. How many English or American players play in Germany?

Without the UK and America, the German squad would not be what it is today.

P.S. You're a clown.

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Soccer is a girl sport. Can we get back to arguing about Star Wars?
"It's the stoned movie you don't have to be stoned for." -- Tom Shales on Star Wars
Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived.
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
Soccer is a girl sport. Can we get back to arguing about Star Wars?
Blasphemy. But yes, let's get back to Star Wars. There's a perfectly good off-topic thread about football (soccer, whatever). I just thought I would point out a flaw in Chrisdo's argument.

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> Hey Chrisdo, I got a question for you.

Hey and i got an Answer )

> You love to diss English and US football right?

Sometimes, right. Which does not mean that i do
not respect the british team, at least they have
one real good kicker, "Owen Hargreaves" )

> But the German Coach, Jurgen Klinsman played for
> years in England (for my local team, Tottenham),
> and now he lives in California, where he picked up
> a number of American training ideas and introduced
> them to German soccer.

Klinsman is a "Vaterlandsverräter". He chose the
wrong goal keeper, so Olli Kahn is sitting on the
Bank. He also kicked out "Sepp Meier", the goal
keeper trainer, from his team. So at the Moment
Klinsman is not very loved by many German
Soccer Fans, especially not by the fans of the
most famous soccer club in the world: "FC Bayern".

But if he wins the World Cup, then we will forgive
him of course and he has a real good chance
because he still has a lot of "FC Bayern Stars"
in his Team.

> If I remember correctly Germany have been
> pretty shit in the past few years (They got
> by on luck in '02).

Not Luck, the Name is Kahn, Olliver Kahn!

> And remember when England beat them
> 5-1 in '01?),

A Freundschaftsspiel. A Macht which did
not count in any tounament. Our team
is always extremly bad in such
Friendship Matches.

Chris