I want my money back from the 04 DVDs and the prequels tickets. — Page 3

AxiaEuxine said:

Personally I dont think any PT would have been successful. Too many people had built up the OT as the end-all be-all of Star Wars movies and no matter what happened most would have hated them. People wanted Luke, Leia and their taxi-driver han running around again in the Millennium Falcon and that just wasnt going to happen. Sorry. :D

A prequel trilogy that was faithful to the spirit and unspoken rules of Star Wars might well have been loved. The prequel trilogy we got not only betrayed all that, it had crap quality in general too. You can't judge how a good prequel trilogy would have been accepted based on how people have reacted to a shit prequel trilogy. The prequel trilogy was supposed to be this fascinating story of Anakin's fall from grace and instead we got Hayden Christensen. If we got what we'd been led to expect we'd have been happy. But we weren't going to get that from a Lucas who did what he did to the OT in making the SE.

I personally love the PT.

I think all too many people have that attitude. It's disturbing to see people lapping up George's excrement.

The fights werent uninvolving and flat? Say whatever you want about the PT, hate it, loathe it, revile it but the lightsaber fights were amazing...I mean come on.

The fight at the end of the Phantom Menace had its good points but was seriously overdone and pompous. The fights in AOTC and ROTS were definitely uninvolving and flat. A crucial defining trait of those two later prequels was supposedly exciting events being portrayed in a totally uninvolving way devoid of emotional depth. They managed ok with the Jango vs Kenobi fight in the rain in AOTC, but the battle with all the Jedi at the end of that movie was a classic example of the problem. Feelingless. The lightsaber battles in those two films were meaningless spectacle, unlike the emotionally powerful fights in the OT. Worthless crap. Really bad filmmaking.

CGI vs Puppets. 99% of the time CGI looks better is this day an age, yes the orginal CGI Jabba was bad but he looks great now. The Puppet in TPM needs to be replaced with CGI. (yes I know thats been done and merely awaits release.) And I like the new musical number in Jedi.

The Yoda puppet in TPM was crap, but so was the CGI Yoda in AOTC and ROTS. The OT's puppets so often look very real, while the prequel and SE's cgi so often looks totally fake. The cgi Jabba does not look great now. He looks dead. And plastic. A plastic corpse. Oh that's a great Jabba. The new musical number in Jedi? you mean the Jabba's palace thing? Revolting cartoonish crap that violates the old film.

Indy IV....is well garbage from start to finish. But Ford Spielberg and Lucas had to aprove of the story before it went forward, plenty of blame to go around. Its not just Lucas.

I tried watching Indy IV again and only could stomach about half the movie, its just awful, so I wont be watching that again. Id rather spend time watching movies I do love, Like Revenge of the Sith.

Indy IV wasn't great, but it was far better than anything Lucas has done in Star Wars in recent times. Thanks to the talent of Harrison Ford. Indy IV has some humanity, ROTS has none.

This is kind of random, but I thought this as good a thread as any to post it in:

Over at AICN, Harry Knowles mentions in his story about the 20 minutes or so of Star Trek footage that was recently screened to the press that David Fincher was rumored to be directing one of the PT movies back in the day. Is this true?

I just find it kind of an odd coincidence considering he would've been in my top three (one for each movie) of directors for the PT. Him, Johnston and Darabont, all ILM/Lucasfilm alums.

negative1 said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Yes. And it looks weird to see Yoda, Palpatine, and Count Dooku fly through the air.

not to some people.

it was perfectly ok for me,

and i had no trouble believing it, or watching it....

if they had been like the slow/plodding fights of the old series THEN

it would have been dull and boring..

 

later

-1

 

 the first time it looks weird, but later after awhile of watching it in AOTC and ROTS, it doesn't look so bad.

Fang Zei said:

David Fincher was rumored to be directing one of the PT movies back in the day. Is this true?

"Jar Jar had bitch tits"... "The first rule of the Jedi is..."

Gaffer Tape said:

negative1 said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Yes. And it looks weird to see Yoda, Palpatine, and Count Dooku fly through the air.

not to some people.

it was perfectly ok for me,

and i had no trouble believing it, or watching it....

if they had been like the slow/plodding fights of the old series THEN

it would have been dull and boring..

 

later

-1

 

Excuse me.  I was talking to rcb.  I don't mind that you answered for him, but since you did, I assume that you share all his opinions in this matter.  As such, I will respond to you in that assumed context.  And since rcb did just recently respond, I guess this is for both of you.

Rcb said he was able to get used to seeing old men characters fly and jump around in the prequels.  Negative 1 said it was perfectly okay.  I assume that negative 1 agrees with rcb that it would have been weird to see Alec Guiness and Darth Vader fly around.  How is it okay and acceptable for one set of characters but wrong and bizarre-looking for another?  Especially since both those OT characters have PT counterparts who are constantly seen jumping around like crazy.  And, as I said before, robots and old men have analogues in the PT that do those acrobatics.  I can't shake it from my head that you're implying a double standard only to support your opinion.

look at the actors flying in the PT and compare that to the OT. It would look weird. maybe not so much for vader, but obi-wan? he even says he's getting old for this sort of thing!