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Originally posted by: greencapt

As for 'Sixth Sense', aside from the 'surprise' ending its actually a very plodding and sometimes downright boring film. I'm one of those people who *gasp* figured it out in the first five minutes


I had the same problem with The 6th Sense. For me it was the fact that HJO’s mom never noticed Bruce Willis. No look, no howdy, nothing. As a parent I can tell you that anytime I find my child in a room with an adult I acknowledge that adult. Just think about it; you walk into a room and see your son sitting there with some guy you don’t fucking know and you aren’t even going to make eye contact with the guy? That dog won’t hunt.

I do like M Knight’s movies for the most part. I enjoyed The 6th Sense despite knowing the “twist” early. I really enjoyed Signs and Unbreakable was good. The Village was ruined for me because one of my friends told me about the “twist” before I saw the film. That being the case I must recuse myself from passing judgment on that film.
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GC, I just have to say that all weekend long I had Alvin & The Chipmunks "The Witchdoctor" stuck in my head with this subject line replacing the lyrics.

Oooo eeeeee oooooo I hate
M. Night Ramalamadingdong

Over and over and over like the kid who puts $10 in the jukebox and picks the same song 40 times just to annoy everybody in the room.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
GC, I just have to say that all weekend long I had Alvin & The Chipmunks "The Witchdoctor" stuck in my head with this subject line replacing the lyrics.

Oooo eeeeee oooooo I hate
M. Night Ramalamadingdong

Over and over and over like the kid who puts $10 in the jukebox and picks the same song 40 times just to annoy everybody in the room.


Aha! Now my evil plan is coming to fruition! MwwuuhahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHahahahahHAHAHAHahaaaaaa.......

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I just don't understand all this hate against that director. Gotta be something personal.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
I just don't understand all this hate against that director. Gotta be something personal.


ric, I don't think this is 'all that hate'. I posted a link to a news article/press release about his book. I found the article to be interesting in a telling way about a pompous filmmaker. I'm not a fan of pompous. Shortly after '6th Sense' came out critics started making comparisons to Hitchcock and M. Night started believing it- and encouraging it. When I read that article it just burned me as its hard enough for talented filmmakers to get funding in Hollywood and to have poor, poor misunderstood man, to whom the studio was willingly to give money albeit with some editorial suggestion (or not even), come out with a tell-all novel to show how put-upon he is... that has nothing to do with filmmaking- that's a bad human being. As I've said in many many other threads- movies, games, comics, etc, etc... all the stuff we geek over... are pure useless crap when held up against just being decent human beings and the stuggles of life on this planet. So when privileged or lucky people whine this loudly it irritates me. If he just made his films, didn't try to make his name more important than his films and let them speak for themselves I wouldn't have even started this thread.

On a day-to-day basis I never think of M. Night at all- until I read that article.

Plus I enjoy bitching. Its fun.

Oh and ADM, if 'Witchdoctor' isn't to your liking, you could always try this one:

MMMNight...bidi dapa doo wight
Doo bi dapa doo bight
Bidi dapa doo, yeah, yeah
MMMNight...bidi dapa doo wight
Doo bi dapa doo bight
Bidi dapa doo, yeah, yeah

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Yeah but I mean, what director dosen't do what he does? Spielberg does, Hitchcock did, he did self promotion constantly, had his names sustain his films (see the movies after "Birds" and you'll see what I mean), bashed actors and he was a genre director. Orson Welles did that. Tim Burton. And take no talent hacks such as Uwe Boll and McG for instance... Or George Lucas for Christ's sake! I just think you are seriously overreacting about that M Night subject in a way I don't understand...
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Yeah, but I don't remember George Lucas ever starring in stupid self-agrandizing credit card commercials.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yeah, but I don't remember George Lucas ever starring in stupid self-agrandizing credit card commercials.


I TOTALLY forgot about that one! Good call Chaltab!!!

and ric- can we agree to disagree?
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Yes, M. Night Shamylan is talented and has made some decent films....but what the fuck is this? He has a company giving him $60 million, full control and telling him to go off and make whatever he wants with it--and he rejects it?! Because they are not worshipping the ground he walks on??! Fuck that! I had respect for this man, but now that is lost. So the executives don't believe in you 100%--welcome to the real world! The real world where major studios don't give you a dumptruck of cash, full creative control and a hundred million dollar marketing campaign. And he is STILL getting that! They believe in him enough to still give him $60 million! What the fuck does he want? That makes him cry? Are you kidding me? This is the most self-serving crap that has ever been written. People thought Francis Coppola was a megalowmaniac but was never half this wimpy--he wouldnt care whether the studio suported him and if they didnt give him the money then he just paid for it himself, as in when he made Apocalypse Now and mortgaged his house for it.

This is the most digusting, ball-less, self-serving, cry-baby-ish display i have ever seen from a director. Sorry buddy, when you are a commerical director you have to take it from the studios and bless every act of creative control you get because it is a gift from them. Dont' like it? Talk to Ridley Scott. The man can't even count the number of films of his that have been cancelled or re-cut but he never wrote a book blasting a studio and never broke down and cried because the studio gave him $60 million but didn't kiss his ass as well. Jesus christ.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yeah, but I don't remember George Lucas ever starring in stupid self-agrandizing credit card commercials.

You've gotta be kidding me. Several celebrities have appeared in American Express ads (in fact, they're famous for it). But because he's in one it's all of a sudden self-agrandizing? Wes Anderson starred in and directed an American Express ad as well, and it doesn't mean he's SPOILED or SELFISH or whatever the hell it is you guys are trying to accuse M. Night of being, it just means HEY IT'S A BUSISNESS THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THESE GUYS DO FOR A LIVING.

Also, I've searched all around and I can't find anything that says M. Night WROTE the commercial, he just directed and appeared in it. For all we know, it might have been written by someone else. Besides, he was ASKED to direct the commercial. It's not like he DEMANDED to be able to direct a commercial. I don't even know what you were trying to prove by this post, other than "HE'S USED HIS NAME TO SELL THINGS" which is true for, like, almost all famous people ever (including Lucas).

Originally posted by: ricarleite
Yeah but I mean, what director dosen't do what he does? Spielberg does, Hitchcock did, he did self promotion constantly, had his names sustain his films (see the movies after "Birds" and you'll see what I mean), bashed actors and he was a genre director. Orson Welles did that. Tim Burton. And take no talent hacks such as Uwe Boll and McG for instance... Or George Lucas for Christ's sake! I just think you are seriously overreacting about that M Night subject in a way I don't understand...

I completely agree.

Originally posted by: zombie84
This is the most digusting, ball-less, self-serving, cry-baby-ish display i have ever seen from a director.

Hello Tony Kaye, Sam Mendes and Quentin Tarantino! Or what about Elia Kazan? He "named names" and got people BLACK LISTED because he didn't like how they would alter his work. Seriously, several directors are very defensive of their work and don't take constructive criticism well. Sure, there are a lot who are fine with constructive criticism, but the fact remains that M. Night is not the only director who's ever complained about critisism, and he's hardly the worst.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yeah, but I don't remember George Lucas ever starring in stupid self-agrandizing credit card commercials.
But he does have his own action figure...

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M.Night shamylan is like vh1's i love... specials, they only spiral downward
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yeah, but I don't remember George Lucas ever starring in stupid self-agrandizing credit card commercials.

* sigh *

Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
Or what about Elia Kazan? He "named names" and got people BLACK LISTED because he didn't like how they would alter his work.


Totally forgot about that. Remember how people left the theater when he recieved the honorary academy award? Would they do the same if M Night got his best director on sixth sense? I don't think so.

Originally posted by: greencapt
and ric- can we agree to disagree?


OK sure, we disagree. I won't talk about it anymore. It's just that I am very puzzled by this topic and still trying to understand the reasons for all the bashing and hate... Makes no sense.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
It's just that I am very puzzled by this topic and still trying to understand the reasons for all the bashing and hate... Makes no sense.


I can't speak for everyone here, but it's not hatred on my part. It's disappointment. I keep hoping he'll do better, but he's just on such a downhill run.
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I don't hate him, I just find it annoying that his recent movies have been mediocre at best... But he still acts like he's Mr. Wonderful and everybody loves all of his films.

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Oh, and I saw the full trailer last night attached to Superman Returns and it really doesn't look much better.
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I couldn't resist... the reviews are starting to come in:

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117931086?categoryId=31&cs=1

http://nymag.com/movies/reviews/17661/index.html

The latter of which features the following amusing aside:

BACKSTORY
Born Manoj Nelliyattu Shyamalan in 1970, the director of Signs and Lady in the Water invented his middle name, “Night,” while studying film at NYU. He’s playfully embellished his biography ever since, including filming a hoax-documentary special, The Buried Secret of M. Night Shyamalan, for the Sci Fi Channel to promote The Village. The hoax, picked up by the AP, the New York Post, and others, claimed that the director had been legally dead for a half-hour after drowning in a frozen pond—and thereafter communicated with supernatural spirits.
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I just don't want him near the Harry Potter franchise with a ten foot broomstick. There's talk of him directing. Please no.

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Originally posted by: Mike O
There's talk of him directing. Please no.


Seriously? God no.
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I was too afraid that if I typed it it might come true some day:

During the press day for Lady in the Water, ComingSoon.net asked writer-director M. Night Shyamalan whether his new studio partner Warner Bros. has tried to convince him to direct one of the last two "Harry Potter" movies. It certainly would be an interesting thing to see a filmmaker mostly known for directing movies from his own scripts to adapt the adventures of one of the most popular literary characters.

"You know, that Harry Potter dance has gone on a long time," he told us. "The problem is that it is a living breathing thing now, all by itself. When it comes over to my camp, it needs to be kind of handed over, adoption papers and everything. That's a tricky move.

"I haven't met with J.K. [Rowling]," he continued. "The first one was offered to me, but that conflicted with 'Unbreakable,' which was unfortunate. I would definitely, but I think probably before that I would adapt a book. I've gotten close a few times to adapting books."


http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=15294
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I don't see it happening. J.K. is too protective of her properties to let someone as heavy handed as Night take the helm.

BTW, those two reviews of Lady in the Water were harsh. Damn, I even felt bad for Night after reading those.
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I too do not want Night to take on the HP franchise. It's not that I don't like him, its just that I don't think that he would fit well with it.

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Oh... my... lord...

LOL

Has M. Night Shyamalan lost his goddamn mind?

That's the only logical excuse for Lady in the Water, the Philly-based writer/director/egomaniac's convulsive seizure of narcissism that's so nakedly personal—and also so unintentionally, hilariously revealing—watching the movie feels a bit like walking in on your roommate while he's masturbating … to a picture of himself.


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Originally posted by: Bossk
Originally posted by: Mike O
There's talk of him directing. Please no.

Seriously? God no.


"I see death eaters."

Has M. Night Shyamalan lost his goddamn mind? That's the only logical excuse for Lady in the Water, the Philly-based writer/director/egomaniac's convulsive seizure of narcissism that's so nakedly personal—and also so unintentionally, hilariously revealing—watching the movie feels a bit like walking in on your roommate while he's masturbating … to a picture of himself.


That's harsh.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
He's really no more crazy than some other "Hollywood visionaries". I'm amazed that Oliver Stone can still get movies greenlit with some of the shite he's made.


He himself is also...odd.

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