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Now that I think about it, it would be kind of interesting if Ep. VI had ended on the same note as Dune, with Luke becoming the new Emperor - and eventually a reluctant dictator - ala Paul Atreides.

It certainly would have paved the way for an interesting sequel trilogy, at any rate.

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It would be ironic if David Lynch turned it down to make Dune.

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Given it back to Kershner and Kurtz, ESB promised potential that the franchise sadly never fulfilled.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Now that I think about it, it would be kind of interesting if Ep. VI had ended on the same note as Dune, with Luke becoming the new Emperor - and eventually a reluctant dictator - ala Paul Atreides.

It certainly would have paved the way for an interesting sequel trilogy, at any rate.

Are you referring to the bits in Making of ROTJ where Kasdan suggests exactly this ending? I think it's a very interesting potential story direction as well.

Of course it would have echoed not just Dune, but also the much older John Carter of Mars series, whose first trilogy ends with John Carter becoming Warlord of all Barsoom. (Along with the ending of The Hidden Fortress, this is probably what Lucas intended to parallel with the "coronation" scene at the end of the original ANH rough draft.)

But as Edgar Rice Burroughs was much more idealistic than Frank Herbert, John Carter is a much more benevolent ruler than Paul Atreides. For one thing, he doesn't unleash a galaxy-wide holy war that spills oceans of blood.

Alex Raymond's Flash Gordon, on the other hand, was offered the rule of Mongo after the downfall of Ming the Merciless, but refused--he stepped aside to let the rightful heir Prince Barin take over (not as King, mind you, but as a President) and hopped the first rocket back to Earth. It's Flash Gordon's altruistic refusal to take on political power that Lucas probably wanted to evoke in ROTJ, rather than Herbert's Atreides Empire with its inevitable decay into despotism.

Incidentally, Mongo after Ming seems to be a federation of constitutional monarchies--it's referred to as the "United Republics of Mongo" and the overall head of state is a President, but the individual realms of the planet retain their royal sovereigns. This is probably more or less what Lucas imagined the Republic as being like (applied to a galactic scale) when he wrote ANH.

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Knowing that there would be a sequal trilogy my ideas for Ep6 would entail having the rebellion liberate several star systems to gain tactical and resourceful advantage against the Empire

dont kill boba fett. The addition of more fett's would be cool and they would operate similarly to a spec ops unit. they mow their way through the opposition on tatooine and escape to fight another day.

Have Luke fight with 2 sabers(since he's the last of the jedi at the start and facing insurmountable odds), while freeing Han and fighting alongside Leia and Lando/chewy.  More Force usage by Luke to win battles

No sibling relationship b/ Luke/Leia.  Han/Leia already established a romance and Luke is devoted to the jedi way.

Yoda does NOT die and furthers Luke's education and re-emerges from exile to help lead rebellion and aid in search of jedi hopefuls.

No ewoks or wookies in climactic battle(space battle with ground assault) which involves the liberation of a peaceful alderaan-like planet from imperial bondage, leading to the discovery of force-sensitive jedi hopefuls by Luke and in turn brought before Yoda.

An intro to sith temples and the dark side way.

this way, the next trilogy could focus on bringing the new jedi into the war, the liberation of more planets building up to a final battle in ep 9. 

 

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Bingowings said:

It would be ironic if David Lynch turned it down to make Dune.

And extremely fortunate.

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TV's Frink said:

Bingowings said:

It would be ironic if David Lynch turned it down to make Dune.

And extremely fortunate.

Yup. If it wasn't for the trainwreck that was Dune he'd probably be wasting his time on blockbusters for years afterwards.

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Instead of wasting time on the crap he's wasted his time on so far?  Good point!

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I have attempted an edit of ROTJ and if I were to try again I would do it differently but not by all that much.

Everyone complains about Ewoks but they are not that bad if you cut them down a bit.. But you have to embrace what is good about them and remove the silly and the bad.

you can't remove them all together it's not feasible.

I cannot tell you how I would do Jedi because you know why it is very very complicated. There is a lot of scene re-arrangement possible with the first and final third of ROTJ and something I would stick to would be limiting the amount of flitting between Throne Room / Forest Moon / Space Battle.

Far too convoluted and jumbled although I even admit that I overlooked scene arrangement issues and could have done it better.

Luke would go Back to visit his old home at the Lars homestead and remember his foster parents whilst a sandstorm rolls over the twin suns.

Yoda would give Luke the Green Crystal for his newly constructed Light sabre.

Bobba Fett would be Be headed by Luke

that is some but not all....

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I prefer Kashyyyk to Endor, Wookiees to Ewoks, but I could have lived with the less than ideal choices had they been presented for a wider demographic. Meaning ANH and ESB were for all ages while the Battle of Endor in ROTJ was strictly for children. The entire final battle of this galactic war can only be fully appreciated from the perspective of a child. That is a let-down to me.

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TV's Frink said:


Instead of wasting time on the crap he's wasted his time on so far?  Good point!


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DuracellEnergizer said:

Changed the whole method of how Palpatine & Vader go about seducing Luke to the darkside to make it more believeable. The whole "if-you-strike-me-down-in-hatred-you'll-join-me" bit is just dumb and smacks of future PT developments.

This is where Lucas really should've taken a page from Tolkien (whom he obviously read--or else why are Jedi sabers blue and Sith ones red?). The One Ring in the LOTR books, for all its evil power, doesn't turn you into a mindless ally of Sauron. If Denethor, Steward of Minas Tirith, got his hands on the Ring, he wouldn't use it to ally with Sauron and crush the people of Gondor and Rohan--he'd use it to overthrow Sauron utterly and establish Gondor as a mighty empire.

But Tolkien's entire point was that this is the wrong approach. If Gondor defeated the Evil Empire of Mordor using Mordor's own methods, it'd just inevitably set up a new despotism in its place. But Denethor would still think that he was a hero, and still claim to be acting for the forces of Good.

Lucas missed Tolkien's point--that fallen good guys don't stop thinking they're good guys. If Luke kills his father in anger it doesn't make sense that he would become the Emperor's lapdog--it makes far more sense that he would try to overthrow the Emperor and seize power for himself, in the name of creating a new, more "benevolent" Empire. (Mind you, Kasdan actually proposed this as a happy ending for ROTJ.)

FWIW, Peter Jackson got this one wrong too--by turning the traitorous and cunning Saruman of the novels (who happily betrayed Mordor at the first opportunity in hopes of seizing the Ring for his own) into a much more authentically loyal servant of the Dark Lord.

Sorry for the slight off topicness...

 I humbly submit an old post of mine for your consideration:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Luke-VS-the-Emperor-What-if-Vader-hadnt-been-there/post/401848/#TopicPost401848

HINT: We're pretty much on the same page- but I didn't bring LotR into it. Thanks for that.

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The only thing I would change is in the end when he tosses the old fart into the chasm, I'd have Vader scream "n-n-nooooooooooooooooooooo!"

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I'd go with "maaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" myself.

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Or maybe even...

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