How to capture HDCP-encrypted HDMI sources (Vudu, Netflix, Directv, Virgin Media, etc.) — Page 3

Well the first thing to check is whether you can capture unencrypted HDMI sources. Try a camcorder, or computer or Xbox 360 not playing a video and set to output 720p or 1080i.

perryboy said:

... Timeleak hd70a. installed the card and connected the splitter and tried both pinnacle studio 15 and honestech HD DVR 2.5 and no device is being recognised.

I don't know much about the hardware & software but maybe Pinnacle & HonesTech use their own drivers (which might not recognize the card) rather than Windows' DirectShow (which should recognize it):

drngr said:

How to capture video with the card

• All of the devices listed above are DirectShow compatible, and so you should be able to capture using any program of your choice. Recommendations are VirtualDub and AmaRecTV.

Let us know how it works out (especially with your particular splitter).

I have a Skydigital SKY-CXHDMIU3

Anyone have experience with this unit?

When I am sending 1080p from my sony STB, i cant record 5.1 audio its all distorted and the clock speed is 47hz and not a constant 48khz

when i drop down to 720p i can record 5.1 audio fine.

Im using the stock skydigital recorder, might there be a better software option that records 1080p with 5.1

Hello Folks !

I recently backed that Wizarm DVR/PVR/mediacenter project on indiegogo, here: http://igg.me/at/wizarm/

This box works standalone (no need of computer) and it can record&playback in 1080p60 (apparently up to 1440p, QuadHD) from any HDMI sources, they have a video showing it recording from a PS3.

It's a easy to use as your smartphone camera software ;)

May the recording force be with you !

According to that page their timeframe for shipping the product is March/April 2014. By then AVerMedia's USB3 1080p60 uncompressed capture device should be out for much less than $259, and who knows what other options will be announced or available.

They don't mention what they're doing about HDCP, but I wonder what kind of legal trouble they could get into if they don't stay under the radar.

does the wizram or the new avermedia support mulitchannel audio?

I might have to ditch this korean piece of crap card lol

my response back from wizarm about 5.1 multichannel

@mathew

Technically, yes there is multichannel support in our hardware design. However, in the current firmware (beta) there is no support to record it – or rather playback it because what gets recorded is not played back properly because its multichannel instead of 2-channels as expected. That support must still be created for the player application. This should be available at release.

The splitter seems to work okay as I can see the movie  on my computer.However I have been unable to capture it successfully.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but this has been horrendous. My 2 HDMI inputs on my TV no longer work following my attempts to get the splitter and card to work successfully.

I have installed and uninstalled so many codecs that I no longer know where I am. The Honestech software that came with the TimeLeak Card originally displayed the input okay but now fails to initialise the capture device. At one time Virtual dub mod could display the content but now, nothing.

Is there anyone who can explain in simple English  and  step by step what I need to do to get this working. I have been trying on and off for a year.without getting anywhere.

 The links below  will allow you to see some of the images I have managed to capture so far.

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http://imageshack.us/a/img15/517/d4sp.png

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Triangle... love that movie.

Sorry to hear you've been having so much trouble. For a year! Wow. Your TV's HDMI inputs no longer work? How did that happen? Sounds like you and technology don't get along well.

I would start by uninstalling and reinstalling the card's drivers and trying VirtualDub 1.9 (not VDubMod which is very old). Then if that doesn't work try a program to actually remove the drivers (not sure what people recommend) and reinstall again. If that doesn't work, try it in a different PCIe slot. And if that still doesn't work, I'm not sure what to suggest.

drngr said:

Triangle... love that movie.

Sorry to hear you've been having so much trouble. For a year! Wow. Your TV's HDMI inputs no longer work? How did that happen? Sounds like you and technology don't get along well.

I would start by uninstalling and reinstalling the card's drivers and trying VirtualDub 1.9 (not VDubMod which is very old). Then if that doesn't work try a program to actually remove the drivers (not sure what people recommend) and reinstall again. If that doesn't work, try it in a different PCIe slot. And if that still doesn't work, I'm not sure what to suggest.

I'll try your suggestions. I already have Virtual Dub 1.9.11 on my desktop so I'll use that. Just not sure I have the Proper Codecs now.

I have windows 7 codec pack 4.0.8 and  Ut Video Codec Suite and XVID Video Codec installed at the moment. Will any of these cause conflicts? Should I only have one set of Codecs installed at any one time? 

It's possible. I've never heard of Windows 7 Codec Pack and the real video geeks never use packs.

This gets weirder and weirder. I uninstalled and reinstalled the cards drivers.

I also installed Honestech DVR which was also on the installation disc.

The first thing I noticed was that the HDMI input source was now missing,only composite and s  video were available. Tried honestech anyway and zilch. tried my virtual dub - again nothing. downloaded a new copy of virtual dub 1.9, still nothing.

decided to try virtual dub mod and ergo a perfect picture but no sound. tried different audio settings -still no sound. tried to capture it but picture froze and no frames were captured.

Went back to installation disc and installed uMedia uTV the last program on the disc. After a bit of tweaking am getting a perfect 1920 x 1080 picture with mpg3 sound. Source is listed as Timeleak HD capture card  but is given as analogue 1920 x 1080. When I record this the quality of Triangle is excellent but any stills are 1920 x 1440  or 4:3 aspect ratio  which i haven't yet managed to change.  When I record football the quality drops quite a bit. this is probably because the video bitrate is only 25.8 Mbps or just over 3mBps which is very low. the colours are vibrant and natural. so if i can raise the bitrate i might be good to go. 

                  To sum up, the splitter and card both obviously work. So it must be possible to get decent results with some program. The search will resume if i can't increase the bitrate in this one.

Thanks for your help.  Any other suggestions  you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Download GraphEdit, open it, hit CTRL+F, expand the sections "Video Capture Sources" and "WDM Streaming Crossbars" and take a screenshot for us to see.

drngr said:

Download GraphEdit, open it, hit CTRL+F, expand the sections "Video Capture Sources" and "WDM Streaming Crossbars" and take a screenshot for us to see.

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/6806/s345.png

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Here you go,work from bottom up. thanks.

Connect timeleak hd capture device to HD70a BDA Analog Xbar Secondary. Right-click on the right-hand video pin of the second one and choose Render Pin. It should add some filters that allow a video preview. Right-click on timeleak hd capture device and choose the relevant input for HDMI. Could be labelled as Serial Digital, S-Video, etc. because of the dumb driver names for the inputs.

Hit the Play button and see if you are able to get anything.

If none of that makes any sense, look for a general guide on how to use GraphEdit with a capture card or example graphs on VideoHelp.com for other cards.

Guys, is that card really works?

http://www.ebay.com/dsc/i.html?LH_TitleDesc=1&_from=R40&_nkw=hd72a&_sop=15

I had very bad luck with splitters including the one mentioned here.

Has anyone serious experience with that blue noname thing?

Thanks in advance!

What is the problem with the splitter linked from here?

Splitters result flickering screen using on my cisco set top box. :(

Many apologies...I'm not sure if the first message has been updated.

Is there now a new capture device that captures video and multi-channel audio uncompressed?

BlackMagic has several devices that capture uncompressed multi-channel audio; the second sentence notes the cheapest one I know of.

Is uncompressed really what you want? The options for capturing compressed AC3 and DTS bitstreams are the same as before, as far as I know.

drngr said:

BlackMagic has several devices that capture uncompressed multi-channel audio; the second sentence notes the cheapest one I know of.

Is uncompressed really what you want? The options for capturing compressed AC3 and DTS bitstreams are the same as before, as far as I know.

Hi, does anyone know if this card ignores HDCP? http://www.ebay.ie/itm/HDMI-Output-Input-Blu-ray-HD-DVR-Video-PS3-Capture-PCI-E-Card-grabber-Converter-/130951055776?pt=US_Video_Capture_TV_Tuner_Cards&hash=item1e7d4a89a0

It's from the same seller as the other card recommended but it has an input and output which negates the need for a splitter.  

In the description it says HD72B, which does ignore HDCP.

I don't know about Ireland, but the HD72A + splitter combination is cheaper in the US now that there is a seller offering it for only $55.

If your source device is closer to your TV, it makes more sense to use a splitter since that way you don't need two long cables snaking to and from the computer. Of course if you have everything on one desk, it doesn't matter.

drngr said:

In the description it says HD72B, which does ignore HDCP.

I don't know about Ireland, but the HD72A + splitter combination is cheaper in the US now that there is a seller offering it for only $55.

If your source device is closer to your TV, it makes more sense to use a splitter since that way you don't need two long cables snaking to and from the computer. Of course if you have everything on one desk, it doesn't matter.

 Thanks for the reply! I just ordered the HD72A, so we'll see how it goes.