How to capture HDCP-encrypted HDMI sources (Vudu, Netflix, Directv, Virgin Media, etc.) — Page 2

drngr said:

For capture cards look for mentions of PS3 and Blu-ray players.

^ That was my advice. Not for splitters, where they just shove in the keywords to get search hits.

The listing never had comments. The trouble with the listing you have there is that there are a bunch of sellers throwing up different 1x2 splitter models and then people comment on them without specifying who sold it to them.

I did apply your advice globally, but also using comments to verify. Yes, many complain about Amazon's nilly-willy mismatching of comments to "related products". They now seem to be adding the titles of the original products from where the comments came, which is a help.

So, is your above link the actual name of the seller "CVID", from who you found a working splitter? No point throwing away money on one without the full functionality they suggest -- Blu-ray, PS3, etc.

The other splitters do have that functionality. They allow you to play Blu-ray and PS3 on a TV that complies with HDCP. They don't allow you to break HDCP.

If you want what I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089DVCT8

The options are Great Elect via Fulfillment (which is what I did because I got Amazon Prime shipping), Great Elect, or Amazon themselves. Pennies separate the prices.

If you want a cheaper and smaller alternative that others say works for stripping HDCP (including reviews on Amazon): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004F9LVXC/

Great additional links! Looks promising (with quite a few customer comments), too.

More information on HDMI splitters at the Speed Demos Archive forum:
https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/how_to_bypass_hdcp_for_use_with_blackmagic_intensity_ps3_owners_read_here.html

Like the Amazon reviews, some are finding models that once worked are not working in later shipments -- indicating different versions with less capabilities. However, someone in the last pages of the thread found that the Sewell splitter does work. It may be another good link ... at this point in time anyway.  :)

I tried to find a suitable device on BlackMagicdesign but....I've no idea what to choose. Which is the BM device you mentioned in your February article.... one and only but expensive ?

I need to buy the best HDCP stripper, suitable for Desktop, able to capture both encrypted and non-encrypted sources (both analog and digital).

Thanks in advance.

Fribel2 said:

Which is the BM device you mentioned in your February article.... one and only but expensive ?

I suppose I should update the thread. They now make a relatively inexpensive card ($145) that does 1080p23.976 and 1080i59.94 with 8-channel LPCM, but it only has HDMI and SDI inputs; no analog.

Decklink Mini Recorder.

I need to buy the best HDCP stripper, suitable for Desktop, able to capture both encrypted and non-encrypted sources (both analog and digital).

I don't have a clue what you're talking about at this point, since there is no such thing as HDMI or HDCP in the analog realm. There are other copy protection schemes there.

Thanks for your answer. I'm talking only about digital stuff. I was wrong when mixing info about analogue signal.

Which card from BM could offer me best capture of HDCP - encrypted HDMI sources, with best audio, for a PC desktop use ?

Thanks again.

I could use Decklink Studio ?

I just want to be sure that if I will pay for a Decklink Studio around $700 to BHS, this device will work for such capture, breaking HDCP protocol.

What's your opinion, it will work or not ?

I don't see any reason to spend the extra on the Decklink Studio if you only want to capture digital.

No BlackMagic card will let you capture or even view an encrypted signal. That's what the HDCP stripper is for (in this case a splitter).

Thanks for your answer. I already read all above messages from this topic and.... to be honest, I'm only a vet MD, and all this technical details are a little to much for me.  I just want to buy a device that could be built-in a PC desktop  (that I already own) with last gen Intel i7, W8 and tons of RAM (32 GB) and memory ( 2x 2TB).

What I understood is that a HDCP splitter is different from HDMI capture card ? For me it's a great progress indeed.I was close to buy from BM....

If you please, I need just to know the device name, or producer or supplier of best combination (splitter + capture card) that will not exceed a max. budget of $600.

Thank you very much for your time and support.

First make sure the PC has a free PCIe slot.

HDMI 1x2 splitter that strips HDCP + Blackmagic Design DeckLink Mini Recorder = $161, not factoring in shipping

Like everything under the $400 range, this card maxes out at 1080i60. To get 1080p60 you would have to sacrifice multichannel sound, unless you massively expand your budget.

drngr said:

HDMI 1x2 splitter that strips HDCP + Blackmagic Design DeckLink Mini Recorder ...

What do you think about the Speed Demos Archive forum's thread I mentioned earlier? There's allot of activity there (regarding BlackMagic and other capture cards) and the mixed results with various splitters -- where some previously working boxes seemingly have been updated to be non-working, as regards taming HDCP.

I haven't been following that thread. One poster said "Okay, follow up to my previous post - I am a huge idiot."

I won't start to believe any claims of "updates" unless someone comes forward who CANNOT capture HDCP through the splitter to their BM device but CAN capture non-HDCP sources through the splitter to their BM device.

Maybe such a post is in there somewhere; I haven't read through the whole thing.

Thank you for your answer.

Which device combination could offer me 1080p60 ?

Ok for a higher budget.

Thanks again.

Off the top of my head,

The HDCP stripper I mentioned above + Blackmagic Design DeckLink 4K Extreme

This card costs $950. You can save $550 if you don't need multichannel sound, but it's only sold in Japan so you need to find a way to import: Micomsoft SC-512-L/DVI.

Thank you very much for your time. I will order them, put them to work and share with you first results, for the benefit of all.

Thanks again.

OK I have read through this and all this is very confusing and most all the links are dead because of linking to ebay, can you post links to an actual Store next time where items can be purchased or seen?

So we have a lot of projects lined up and some we still need good video for, namely Return of The Living Dead 2, I am not worried about audio because most of the titles we need for projects are only 2 channel anyways and we usually get the audio from the DVD or even the LD, in this case the LD, well I see Vudu has the HDX version available for PC download now, so how can I get this video? please if anyone knows how or can provide it to us we can make this project happen, someone was going to provide me with an how to video but he never came through, he said he does it through his PS3 somehow, but anyways any info on this would be a huge help to us and future cool projects.

Thanks

dark_jedi said:

most all the links are dead because of linking to ebay, can you post links to an actual Store next time where items can be purchased or seen?

Such as? Any of the random Chinese import sites I've seen selling them mark them up by $30-50 compared to the best eBay prices.

I've determined the model numbers for all the cards I had listed now (not sure how I missed a couple of them in the descriptions before). So you can search on eBay ("include description") or elsewhere for those numbers.

well I see Vudu has the HDX version available for PC download now, so how can I get this video? please if anyone knows how or can provide it to us we can make this project happen, someone was going to provide me with an how to video but he never came through, he said he does it through his PS3 somehow, but anyways any info on this would be a huge help to us and future cool projects.

I've yet to see a PC that plays back Netflix without a frame drop somewhere, and I'm guessing Vudu is the same. Not to say it's impossible but I don't trust computers as the source for video capturing.

Did the person who provided you with Vudu video before quit?

Doctor M said:

I believe Vudu works with programs like GetFLV/Tubedigger.  You won't have dropped frames using a program like that.

I don't know about netflix though.

Now this would be great, but I would have to buy the program and then buy the HDX video and hope it all works, wish there was a way to know for sure before all the spending, I already spend 1 hell of a lot on the projects we do lol.

I just clicked on the Watch HDX button on a movie and I can't even get it to play in Firefox, never mind download illegitimately.

hi,

I bought a 4 way splitter last week  that looks exactly the same as yours, and a Timeleak hd70a. installed the card and connected the splitter and tried both pinnacle studio 15 and honestech HD DVR 2.5 and no device is being recognised.

It may be that the maker has been compelled to stop stripping the HDCP in the latest version. I don't know. Is there any other way of checking that the HDCP has been removed.

thanks.