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How do you think the ultimate release will turn out (best case scenario)?

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This was inspired by the "How would you remaster the OOT" thread.

Ok guys, you know I like to speculate. The reason we're all here is that we want George to come around and give us all what we want, and whether we like it or not, he's the man with the legal rights, so the decision (at least for the next several decades) rests in his hands. The 2006 release, I've come to realize, can be looked at either as a glass half full or a glass half empty. I remember people on this forum saying that it was, at the very least, a step in the right direction. But for whatever reason, that opinion seems to have shifted over the last two years.

So far, we have a comment from McCallum about "100 hours of documentaries." This got me thinking about the possibilities for the Blu-ray, which - even if it's ported to standard dvd (and I doubt it will be) - is what everyone will be making the biggest deal about, just as they did back in '04 when the movies were finally on dvd. Dual-layered blu-ray discs have enough capacity that if you had six of them you could easily hold 100 hours in good quality 480 SD video. Even if they ported the blu-ray to dvd, I don't think they'd bother including any of that documentary stuff since they would need several extra discs per film just to hold all of it.

The movies will most likely be released individually, with the option of getting them altogether in a big set. I honestly don't see Lucas doing much alteration to any of the prequels (beyond what he's already done, anyway. see: the current dvd releases). He'll get Lowry to clean up TPM and AOTC (Yes, even though it was shot digitally. Lowry said that back in '04, as I recall, so it's their words and not mine). He could EASILY branch the theatrical cut of TPM seamlessly, so I would hope he does so. Digital Yoda is the only additional change I'm expecting to see in the updated cut. But eps II and III I'm expecting to remain the same.

And that brings us to the OT, reason we're all here. Ok, here's what I see happening. George will either take RAH up on his offer or he'll just dig up the interpositives from the archives and get his own people to handle the transfer. They'll master the movies in 1080p and that will be that. For the audio, there will be at least a regular lossy 5.1 (that's using the Blade Runner blu-ray as an example) if not a lossless or uncompressed variant. Those discs will be tacked onto the primary discs which will be the latest update of the 2004 version. So it would be two discs each for the prequels (with both versions of TPM seamlessly branched) and three discs each for the originals.

Why do I think he will come around? Well, for lack of a better answer, it's that I view the GOUT as a glass half full situation.

As for a timetable, my first guess would be when the live-action show starts. The latest rumor is that Indy IV is hitting blu-ray in October, but the originals aren't hitting until later. Maybe that will be 2009 and then Star Wars will be 2010?

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To me the gout represents the glass fully empty.

But you are entitled to your own opinion.

 

By the way the gout being representative of the oot on the 2006 release was Jim Ward's idea.

The same Jim ward who stepped down but was probably really fired.

To Lucas these versions no longer exist, period.

 

I was not so many years ago lucas said "well you guys have that on vhs. and im not paying money for that on dvd." or something like that.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Hey, if the GOUT is all we ever get, then it will be a glass fully empty. But that remains to be seen.

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(Best case that Im hoping for, realistically)- We'll never get a Blade Runner megaset that is just for us obsessive types. Lucasfilm lives in fear of the great imaginary soccer mom who controls the money spent in the aisles of Target, and the weird-smelling aisles of Wal-mart. He'll want to sell something practical, something like a TV season on dvd, maybe 8 or 9 discs, gimmicky package, nothing substantive in the extras, promos for video games. The 6 movies, slightly different from what they are now. AND...hopefully the original theatrical versions because it's the ONLY feature that will make this set get purchased by the fans, former fans and plain old movie buffs. The originals will finally get a new transfer, it won't be as good as the se's because that can't be allowed, but they'll look good enough. Then we can all just let it go, Indiana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If the folks at Lucasland can release a $4000 box of pictures in a 2 foot wooden crate, then they are capable of thinking about making something "just for us obsessive types".

 

Best case scenario?  I think it will be only a box set, probably in only one format, hopefully blue-ray.  Because of the resolution of Blueray, the OOT will need a new transfer.  I think that LFL will generally learn from its mistakes and give us a pretty good anamorphic transfer with decent audio.  The films will look really good, but really won't be cleaned up.  It will likely be a new film transfer, but still have the scratches and other defects.

Each movie will have 2 discs.  For the prequels, we will get the "Theatrical Editions" and the "Director's Cut".  The directors cut of AOTC and ROTS will likely be edited to include references to events in the new Clone Wars movie.  For the original trilogy, we get the OOT transfer and the latest SE.  The '97 SE's are lost to history, you won't see them again.  Then there will be new bonus discs, one for the prequel trilogy and one for the classic trilogy.  The documentaries will be full of 'revisionist history', but will also have a decent collection of deleted scenes.

 

That's my best case scenerio.

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Sluggo said:

If the folks at Lucasland can release a $4000 box of pictures in a 2 foot wooden crate, then they are capable of thinking about making something "just for us obsessive types".

HA! Too True!

OK. Here's my pessimistic outlook. There will be no theatrical versions, no OOT.

I think we will get 2 box sets, one for DVD and one for Blu-Ray, and both will be the same except for the resolution of the format. It would be foolish to ignore the DVD market for the next few years, since it's still very much alive. We will get two discs per movie, one for the latest SE version of the movie, and one for special features. Most of the movies will be tweaked slightly in some way or another (in the same way that the Special Editions were tweaked when they made it to DVD).

The theatrical versions of the PT are a minor curiosity, and I can't see George giving half a rat's patootie about them. As far as the OOT, I don't think we'll get a respectable version of that for a few years. I suspect that the main reason we got the GOUT was to kill the OOT bootlegs. Since there are currently no high-quality DVD or HD versions of the OOT, there's nothing for George to compete with, nothing that's making him look bad. When we do get that (probably in the next couple of years), then an official version of the OOT will come our way in Blu-Ray.

 

 

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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GOUT is the only best case scenario that George will give to OOT fans.

Sluggo said:
There will be no theatrical versions, no OOT.


Sluggo is right and people would be dreaming if they think George would remaster the theatrical versions.

George may remaster the theatrical versions only if people stop paying for thing George pumps out. but, TF.N fans will always buy his Sh**.

George only cares about the TF.N fans and Dumb-a@@es.

 

Here is OOT fan best case scenario

print these out, get three cases, put the '06 GOUT in them versions and dream :

these are based on 1995 designs. GOUT is from the 1995 OT laserdisk:

http://plamdi.com/movies/swcovers.htm

OOT FAN COVERs

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I think I was mis-quoted.

 

I think you guys are right.  I don't think he will remaster the theatrical versions either, unless he follows the standard that is being set with other movies box sets.  It is becoming a bit more popular to issue the theatrical version along with a directors cut. 

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Fang Zei said:

So far, we have a comment from McCallum about "100 hours of documentaries."........

 

Don't be disappointed when it turns out to be 2-3 hours of documentaries per film for a future release/box set.

"100 hours" would be great but I think it's wishful thinking. McCallum is always full of it and will hype the most mundane shit like it's the second coming. It's also unprecedented and Lucasfilm have been behind the curve on things for so long I can't remember the last time they were ahead of it.

Quoting "100" sounds like a kid in the playground bragging to his friends.

"Well here's a big bag of rock salt" - Patton Oswalt

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True.  Remember how exciting the making of Episode 1 documentary was?  All that footage of Jake Lloyd auditions!!!!  YEEE HAWW!!!

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Erikstormtrooper said:

As far as the OOT, I don't think we'll get a respectable version of that for a few years. I suspect that the main reason we got the GOUT was to kill the OOT bootlegs. Since there are currently no high-quality DVD or HD versions of the OOT, there's nothing for George to compete with, nothing that's making him look bad. When we do get that (probably in the next couple of years), then an official version of the OOT will come our way in Blu-Ray.

 

 I have a feeling this is probably the most realistic theory right now.

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Best case scenario (for me):

 

(HARP MUSIC PLAYS....)

 

Lucas finally realizes that he's gone to the well once too often and he will need to release the OOT to get some additional $$$ from the more discerning, old-school fans.

He will magically discover a useable print of each OOT film, and a 2k or 4k scan will be done. No major cleanup will be done, perhaps just some color correction and minor scratch removal. The soundtracks will be straight of the prints- no remastering or major cleanup done on those either.

He will release the SEs (of course) on blu-ray, each film will be a 2-disc set. Disc 1 will be the SE of each film, disc 2 of each film will be the OT version. 

They'll be extras included, probably split between disc 1 and disc 2. Probably the same stuff that was on the bonus disc of the '04 DVD set. As an extra bonus, deleted scenes from all 3 films will be included, as well as some of the trailers that were not included in the DVD set.

 

Personally, that's all I want, and I probably won't even get that. But I will always hold out hope.

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Ugh. Does everything have to be such a big deal? "Oh thank you for finally selling us something. This is the best day of 2011." It's a pretty ... interesting PR strategy. I have to wonder what, ultimately,  the actual difference in sales would be between selling the individual theatrical versions now, and the deluxe-o boxed sets/director cuts later, (the way every other movie does it) vs. this weird "you will wait for it, and we're not even gonna tell you what or when IT is" method. 

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Baronlando,

In answer to that, I'll simply say that the GOUT was a cash-grab. But because they oversaturated the market by releasing Star Wars on dvd for the third year in a row, they now need to wait a while before the next release.

He probably won't release it until after the 3D versions hit theaters. Speaking of which:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080808h.php

 

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Yeah it was  a cash-grab, I just think the "regular" method (basic theatrical versions followed by double-dips of various alternate/enhanced versions and more extras) is just as effective at grabbing the cash, and without all these hard feelings. 

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Too true.

It's a little sad that it's apparently of zero consequence to Lucas just because he makes so much off of merchandise and therefore doesn't need the money.

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Best case scenario? I hate to say it but the only way we are ever going to get a remastered OOT set is if ol' George finally has that diabetic stroke he's been working on so well for the last 20 years and dies, making way for some people on the ranch to grow some balls and give us all the movies that made us fans in the first place.

I know this sounds harsh but Lucas has been behaving like a stubborn, spoiled and petulant child in regards to our beloved OOT. He has insulated himself from the fan community and surrounded himself with yes-men. He know full well that the reason the first trilogy were so successful was that they were a collaborative product being the result of many critical viewpoints and that still stings The Beard. His ego cannot allow this.

I for one will not have my memories held for ransom by a despot.  Vote with your wallet and forgo anything Star Wars related until George has no option but to do some serious soul-searching, discover what he has become and atone for his sins.