How deeply rooted is "suck" in the Prequels? — Page 2

I think it’s only just a few, handful of British actors that give creditable performances. The rest of the cast is just wooden cardboard cut-outs.

No the prequels are far from saving. It’s not worth throwing them a lifeline, just let them sick because they stick. lol

Attack of the Clones:

The Republic is unable to defeat their enemy <in the Clone Wars> because they don't know exactly who or where they are.  Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Knight, has captured a curious piece of enemy weaponry that may provide the clues to finding their foes.  He <and a crack team on soldiers> conduct a galaxy wide campaign which ultimately reveals the identity, location, and purpose of the enemy.

Meanwhile, Anakin Skywalker and <the girl> are on the run from <something.>  They have a pic-nic and fireside dinner.  They fall in love?  Or maybe they don't.  But then she watched him do something evil wherein she finally decides that she must love him.  <He has to protect her constantly from danger at every turn.  Every time he saves her, she feels more indebted to him and the gratitude leads her to place him very high in her esteem to the point that she is also in love with him, just as he is with her.>  Eventually they hook back up with Obi-Wan <and his soldiers> as they find the homebase of the enemy and the full on war is officially begun.

I had to flatout replace some of the ideas to make them good as opposed to simply simplifying them.  Those are the ideas in <>'s.  These two ideas I think are good enough for a Star Wars story, but the execution (Dexter's Diner?  The Hills are Alive with the Sound of Music?) was so extemely off that it came across as mostly terrible.  And don't get me started on silly/scary C-3PO...

<He has to protect her constantly from danger at every turn.  Every time he saves her, she feels more indebted to him and the gratitude leads her to place him very high in her esteem to the point that she is also in love with him, just as he is with her.>

xhonzi, this is perfect. Putting Anakin and Padme out of harm's way as it happened in the movie denied the story this angle.

Padme, at least in my idea of who the character is, wouldn't allow herself to fall for Anakin based upon attraction alone. She would need another reason, a much more powerful reason, to "break the rules".

Matter of fact, Han grew on Leia because he was willing to do anything at all to keep her safe - rushing headlong into a stormtrooper squad, flying into an asteroid field, attacking a star destroyer, anything.

I'd like to take credit for it, but one of my OT.com ignoring friends from IRL actually pointed that out.  We reminisced on the Saved=Loved troupe and how well that normally works.  A little danger and a little "saving" would go a long way to making Padme's affection for Anakin believable.

vote_for_palpatine said:

 

xhonzi, this is perfect. Putting Anakin and Padme out of harm's way as it happened in the movie denied the story this angle.

Padme, at least in my idea of who the character is, wouldn't allow herself to fall for Anakin based upon attraction alone. She would need another reason, a much more powerful reason, to "break the rules".

Matter of fact, Han grew on Leia because he was willing to do anything at all to keep her safe - rushing headlong into a stormtrooper squad, flying into an asteroid field, attacking a star destroyer, anything.

Han's motivations are interesting because he claims he did all that for the money.  That he is nothing more than an immoral mercenary in it for purely selfish reasons.  Which he was at first.  The thing is nobody knew when they saw star wars that he would show up and save Luke.  The greedo scene is supposed to show just how much of a gunslinger type character he is and then that scenes changes our opinion of him. 

Only in the special edition it is ruined because greedo shoots first.

I think Han was attracted to Leia because she was an unavailable women as far as social status goes.  Alderaanian royalty with an underworld criminal with a death mark. 

The fact that Anakin and Padme were forbidden to be together made being together desirable.  Stupid Jedi and their rules.  You wonder how the order ever lasted for a thousand years or more.

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

I'd like to take credit for it, but one of my OT.com ignoring friends from IRL actually pointed that out.

You have a friend in the Indy Racing League?

(Oh man, I just realized that means something entirely different here...cue Crystal Skull complaints)

Indy's race car will be a lead lined fridge with nuclear powered rockets,lol.