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Highlander 2 Renegade Serious Edition (Released)

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After watching the excellant Highlander 2 Zeist Edition i contacted the makers
asking if they were ever going to do a restored version of the Renegade edition
with the extra scene back in as that was the one i HAD to see. i was informed
that my best bet would be to get the Renegade Special Edition as that was
basically what i wanted to see. sans scene obviously.

anyway, long story shot i got the dvd and being directly inspired by the
incredible work done on the zeist edition i thought i’d have a go at a bit of
fanediting myself. Here is the result.

hope someone out there enjoys it!

Highlander 2 Renegade Serious Edition

What is it about? This is supposed to be a more serious and less annoying edit of
HL2 Renegade

tagline: There There should of been only one…
original film name: Highlander 2 Renegade Special Edition
new film name : Highlander 2 Renegade Serious Edition

edit crew name : nOmArch
Date Original Film Was Released : 1 November 1991
Date Edit Was Released : 26 April 2007
Original Runtime : 108 Mins
New Runtime : 104 Mins
Cuts removed/added/extended : 1min added / 5 Minremoved

Fanedit details:

SCENES CUT/TRIMMED/EDITED

1 Removed Katana complaining about the sentencing of Connor and Ramirez

2 Removed most of dialogue with two henchmen now they are told to go to earth and
kill Connor then they leave with no silly laughing.

3 Removed more laughing when two henchmen find Connor and joined the
‘MaCleod’ line to what was left to flesh it out slightly also removed the ‘lucky
guess’ line as it is now redundent.

4 Removed dumb and whiney ‘let me have him, but i want him, its my turn’ lines

5 Removed closeup of henchman laughing after shooting at Connor on metal stairs.

6 Removed police car arriving and then being blown up by 1 shot from henchmans
gun and more laughing. makes fight scene flow much better

7 Removed a small laughing scene after Connor gets hit by the back of the truck.
didnt remove all the laughter as henchman thinks Connor is dead so is justified
in laughing a little bit. also helps with continuity a bit.

8 Removed stupid comedy scene where tramp asks for a light from flying henchman
and gets blown to smithereens.

9 Removed ‘shithead’ from Ramirez’s ‘farewall shithead’ line.

10 Removed Connor/Louise sex scene it now looks like they just kiss.

11 Removed another shithead line after a punk congratulates ramirez on his
‘threads’

12 Removed the ‘Psychic Cook’ TV ad.

13 Removed Katanas ‘this sure doesn’t look like kansas’ line and the silly split
screen tv/Katana shot of the punk looking at him. now Katana just looks at the
punk and then grabs him.

14 Subway Train sequence heavily cut to slow it down to a more sensible speed ie

140mph, all scenes of people flying around in the coach have been removed.
(really really pleased with how this came out)

15 Taxi scene heavily edited to remove stupid/redundent dialogue

16 Drunk woman and plane safety video removed.

17 Removed Ramirez’s introduction line from the MAX entrance. now Connor just
asks which direction vegas is.

18 Removed Louises ‘outstanding’ line after Katana is run over, it was just plain
dumb.

19 Removed the ‘always play the favourite’ line cos again it was stupid.

20 Removed Katanas ‘then again maybe not’ line after killing David Blake. He
wouldnt of cared what Blake thought.

SCENES ADDED

the Connor/Louise/soldier fight on the way to the control room.
Fanedit details :

Sources Used: Highlander 2: The Quickening, Highlander 2: Renegade Special
Edition

Audio is AC3 5.1.
Static Menu

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Your intention for this fanedit:

To make this a more serious and less annoying edit of HL2 Renegade
Your way to achieve your intention:

Insert scene from HighLander 2: The quickening
remove as much silly/comedy stuff as possible
Hardware and software information:

VirtualDubMod 1.5
Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD
Paintshop Pro 9
DVDLab Pro 2

Additional Comment:

This is my first effort, please be kind
Time needed for the edition: About 8 hours

persons involved: 1

you can grab it from fanedit.org.

once again a big thank you to Phineas and Nighthawk for doing such a fabulous job
on HL2 and for inspiring me to have a go myself at this editing game.

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I always hated all of the over-the-top performances you're removing.... that and the stupid porcupine killers.

On top of your changes, the edit I dream about would remove all the close-ups of the porcupine killers (and the hoverboard chase), and the sword fight would be limited to the fewest shots to make it consistent with the Highlander 'resurrection'. As an intro to the scene I would use the low-lifes marching to Old Connor and asking him if he is Mc Leod. Somehow McLeod would be rejuvenated after their gratuitous attack on him.

I feel that Serious Version could do justice to the movie : You get my vote !
Personally I would let all of the Connery scenes as the only comic relief of the movie but that's just me !

PS : What do you think of my suggestion on the killers ?

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Is there a way to remove the stupid painted lips from the fuel tanker truck?


“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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@Templar

if i could of removed the hoverboard dual, believe me i would! i just couldn't find good enough cut points that would of flowed properly so i decided to leave it in, i did remove as much of it as possible though i like your idea for taking out the hoverboard scene but i wasn't quite brave enough to remove that amount of footage in own fell swoop. i may go back to it and have a bash at a total removal of the henchmen/porcupine guys, of course if you wanna have a go at it then be my guest.

i also really enjoyed Connerys scenes but the drunk womans laughing also really pissed me off, just sounded really fake to me and the safety video was in equal measure stupid and silly; highlander always had its funny moments but they were always believable.

the shithead lines just didnt fit with his character, to me Ramirez was always cool and suave. i spose in retrospect his retort to the actor was in character, although im sure he would know what a shithead was already i removed the other one because i always thought the punk was complimenting him so to me he was just being rude for no reason.

@BrikHaus81

well i hope you enjoy it! i'd be really interested to get all you guys' feedback on my first attempt at editing a movie.

@Fanfiltration

er premiere or direct rotoscoping maybe?
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I think the humor works. Sci-Fi and humor are perfect mates. Think about RoboCop, Aliens, Predator (the pussy jokes) and Starship Troopers. They would suck without the humor. It adds chrisma. 2001 and Blade Runner are great movies, but you've got to admit that can be pretty boring and depressing sometimes.

Those henchmen are annoying, but don't forget that we get the pleasure of seeing them decapitated in one of the coolest fight scenes ever. That glider is way awesome. The first Highlander had tons of humor too.
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totally agreed! but it must work within the context of the movie, the stuff i cut just didnt work imho which is why i cut it.
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I like this idea, looks good kid ;-)

But myself, I m a diehard Highlander II fan, I like it all even if it's silly!!!


I would add back in the banging sex against the wall scene, the movie needs that scene. Besides, the poor guy hadn;t had sex in over 30 years, give him a break. She had it coming!!!!

- Biff

Remember, Highlander, you’ve both still got your full measure of life. Use it well, and your future will be glorious.

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Originally posted by: Mitch
I like this idea, looks good kid ;-)

But myself, I m a diehard Highlander II fan, I like it all even if it's silly!!!


BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

I would add back in the banging sex against the wall scene, the movie needs that scene. Besides, the poor guy hadn;t had sex in over 30 years, give him a break. She had it coming!!!!

- Biff


hadn't thought about it like that, although to be fair he does have a great shagging scene in the unrated version of HL3 (soft core anyone?), its a shame they couldn't of had more alleyway scenes then i could of addded it back in a little later on in the film and it would of made a lot more sense than hi hello im macleod yes and im vriginia madsen, hmmm lets fuck

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Hey Nom,

Okay so I wanted to see if the porcupine removal concept was of any value. So I loaded the ZSE version in Womble and started editing out.
I went very quickly and I'm probably a lot less talented than you on this tool but it DOES work.

Basically I cut all of the second killer footage (Police Car explosion, Hoverboard... and sadly... second Quickening). There are a couple of music cuts that I'm not too happy with and likewise I did not refine the beginning of the scene with an extract with the punks, like I said I would... maybe next time.
By keeping the 1st attack in constant motion (never stopping more than a couple of seconds on an immobile shot of a porcupine), it looks like 2 punks calling out on an old man and one of them performing a random attack on him... much better than Katana sending these clowns after the Highlander.

I encourage you to give it a try. My God with your cuts and mine, could I finally watch (and enjoy) H2 at long last ?

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that sounds fantastic!! i'd love to have a look at what you've done! i think losing the second quickening isnt a bad thing at all, i tried really hard to cut the frankly godawful electric cable decapitation scene but again couldn't find relevent cut points it always felt like there was a jump and not just a cut to another angle/scene if you get me.

i'll watch the segment again tomorrow and see what i can come up with.

btw have you seen my edit yet? as i'd really like to hear a perspective other than mine on the sequence to see whether what i cut flowed or not.
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Unfortunately I haven't been able to get your edit : i do not own a premium account so Rapidshare is not an option for me :-( (ever thought about going with the Demons ?).

By re-reading your description of your cuts, here is what I did :

#3 : brilliant (and probably the way to go). Haven't seen your cut but I wouldn't stay more than 2 or 3 secs on the clowns.
#4 : I did the same
#5 : I did the same but the music cut is horrendous. I'm very curious to know how you worked around it.
#6 : I did the same and the music is blended seamlessly
#7 : Curious to see how it turns out. Yes the laughing seems justified but it's the ugliest of the whole sequence. I can see your point though as I ended up with a jarring music cut again.
#8 : Well, as I said, I've cut everything from after Quickening #1 till after the second and I'm very satisfied with the result. Maybe pasting Quickening #2 after #1 would give the idea of an extended one but since there is a pause when McLeod picks up the sword, I really don't know if that would work.

I also made a small cut during the sword fight on the bridge, again not to stay too long on the faces of the porcupines. Quick cuts on their faces make them look like punks and I'm very happy with that...

Yesterday I was actually thinking about going Zeist-less a-la-Renegade and apply your cuts and mine, just for the sake of it... So I'm actually interested in your version in more than one way !
The description you make of the subway scene is actually how I would have made it myself...

I might refine my cut before posting it on the demons so that you can have a look at it.

Let me know your thoughts....

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all sounds very good!!!, i guess i got lucky with #5 as it cut perfectly. i definitely like the idea of joining the two quickenings together i think that could work!

by demons do you mean a certain site that has oid in its title? if so i can up it there but im hamstrung with only 25k up i dont spose you live in europe? i could always PIF it to you.
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Nope I live in Canada, but you're right it could take forever on a 25k connection.

I could post it on the Demons if you were to PIF it to me though.

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that'd be really great, thanks!! postage should be pretty similar to the states i guess, in that case i should be able to get a disc out to you next week if thats ok?

i dont spose you know anyone whos good at dvd cover art? i had a go myself but i couldn't find anything at a decent res so the result wasn't amazing.
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Nom,
Next week is great ! can't wait to see it !

There are a bunch of great artists on the forum.
Personnally I've been very impressed with the work of Gillean and Ash595. You might wanna try to contact them for your cover.

I'll send you a PM shortly with my address, so make sure there are turned on for you.

Templar
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I am very interested in doing a cover for this, or any version of highlander 2 for that matter. I have some material to work with. Could use more.

As mentioned in the other highlander topic, here is a cover I am planning on revisiting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/y2kretro/HIGH.jpg
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Hiya DrakeRetro,

sorry for late reply i haven't been near this board for a while. if you're still up for doing the cover i'd be very interested to see what you come up with! my amateurish attempts at making a cover have been not great to say the least.

if you're interested send me an email to nomarch(at)lineone(dot)net

regards and thanks for your offer!

nOmArch

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That is an awesome looking cover and this sounds like a nice edit!

If I could only download the Special Zeist Edition, I might be able to comment on it and your's...


Best of luck!
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nothing but good feedback on it so far hope you manage to get hold of it, i look forward to hearing what you think about it!
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Hi there, this edit is no longer available in fanedit.org and the Torrents have been removed. Can anyone help me get a copy? Thanks in advance...
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Congratulations on this great piece of work, if only *this* movie had been released back in 1991 i think i would still be such a big fan of Highlander as i was before “The Quickening” (and dont even get me started on the following sequels).

I believe your version 2 would be just perfect if the few audio glitches were gone, a few silences throughout the movie kind of hurt the pace and the viewers attention.
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You got me interested, which is a surprise since the original version is pretty bad, but please if anyone can link to this fanedit?
I’d love to watch it.