Hell, I thought A New Hope wasn't added until 1981!
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
I meant isn't the title okay since it came from Lucas before he became the person who made the SE's and Prequels?
I'm wondering if you guys don't like the title because you think it sucks, or just because it wasn't there "originally"? Your focus determines your reality.
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
I also thought the official story was that "EpIV ANH" was added in '81, but I've also heard people say that LFL doesn't know its own history and the alteration was in '79. A story I've heard that supports '81 as the date mentions how surprised people were to read "Episode V The Empire Strikes Back" in May of 1980, but then again they just might not have seen the '79 re-release if that's indeed when it was added.
As I recall it, the '79 release did not have the new subtitle ... but word was out before Empire that it would be there on all future Star Wars releases ... and so it was in '81.
It doesn't help that "A New Hope" is a retarded title if ever there was one, but it could be the kewlest title on earth and still be completely WRONG. Does it matter not one bit to you, Go-Mer, that John Williams scored the film to the timing of the original crawl? Perhaps you're familiar with that theme that all the Star Wars movies open with. Well, back then it was a music cue just like any other, and it was scored to the movie quite precisely. Changing the movie subsequently puts the musical score out of sync.
Plus, lemme see, that's the way it was when the world fell to Star Wars mania. That's one of the most famous movie openings in all cinematic history.
I did not realize it makes the music out of sync. I'll have to compare when I get home. Will the bonus disc be good enough, or do I need to drag out my laserdiscs?
I have noticed a lot of issues with the sound on the 2004 SE version. The new additions have musical edits that aren't always very smooth.
Also with all of the prequels, the music was scored before Lucas was done editing them, so there was a lot of patchy editing going on there too, with AOTC and ROTS both re-using music from previous episodes, something that had never been done up until those 2 films.
I am thinking that Lucas is going to re-score the films with Williams once he's settled on a final cut.
I know it's not "final" until Lucas can't change it anymore, but I think Lucas is trying to reach the finish goal. Your focus determines your reality.
I doubt that. And I doubt Williams wants to bother enough with Star Wars anymore to completely rescore three films he scored 30 years ago.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
I was at Celebration II, and at the Rick McCallum spectacular, someone asked him if the rumors were true about inserting the Imperial March into ANH, and he gave one of those non confirmations that went something like: "I can't talk about that, but you are very very good."
I don't know, if anyone would re-score a movie 30 years after it was first released, it would be Lucas.
I have also seen interviews from Williams where he expressed disatisfaction with the way his music had been re-cut after the fact.
Maybe they would only re-score the post edited stuff and leave most of it in tact. Your focus determines your reality.
I am thinking that Lucas is going to re-score the films with Williams once he's settled on a final cut.
You're joking....right?
The score to Star Wars is one of the best, if not THE best scores ever written, and is one of the greatest musical achievments of all time. ESB and ROTJ don't catch the same flair musically, but are still some of the best ever written. Re-writing and recording the music is the worst possible thing Lucas could do to the trilogy, and quite frankly, it would never happen because Williams is not a hack like Lucas. Far from it. He still write fantastic film scores, and would never butcher his own music.
I hope you're joking Go-Mer, but if you aren't.....well, fan of SE, OOT, PT or whatever, that is just blasphemy to Star Wars, in all its many forms. Watch DarthEvil's Who Framed Darth Vader? video on YouTube!
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Lucas doesn't need Williams to insert stuff like The Imperial March into what has just been rightly described as one of the best musical scores ever composed. He can just hack cut and paste like he did with the scores for the last two prequels.
He doesn't need a live composer ... he has his computer, and the legal rights to do whatever he wants with the music previously composed by John Williams for any of his StarWars (TM) movies.
Rumors of this get my blood boiling.
I happen to think The Imperial March is a little too specific and lighthearted as compared with the very brief and moody coda written for the Death Star and the Imperials in Star Wars. It's a neat theme, but sorta silly. I like the way it's used constantly in the Empire score, but it was wise to subsequently put a lid on it in all subsequent Star Wars movies.
No matter what you may think of it, and I'll admit it's an iconic piece of music, nothing Williams wrote for Empire, Jedi, or Episodes 1 thru 3 hold a dim candle to the pure unadulterated GENIUS of his Star Wars score ... and if George Lucas mucks with that ..... (well, I suppose Death Threats can be taken the wrong way on the internet, so I WON'T be making one).
I think rumors have been posted here in the past that Williams was interested in inserting the Imperial March into the first movie... which is insane.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
I think in some cases though, where Lucas already went in and mucked with what Willams did, Williams might not be opposed to smoothing things out. I think it would be better to have Williams do it than to just leave it up to Lucas and Ben Burtt. Your focus determines your reality.
And I, of course, feel it would be better to leave well enough alone. It's fine the way it is.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Ain't no way you're getting that message through to Go-Mer Gaffer Tape. Resistance is futile. Watch DarthEvil's Who Framed Darth Vader? video on YouTube!
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei I also heard that the "Toschi Station...Power Converters" line was not in one or more of the theatrical releases. Is this true?
No that's not true (at least I don't think it is- I've never heard of that before).
I know most of you guys would rather he leave it alone, which is why I'm for making the original available in better quality. That way you guys could have it the way it was and Lucas can still make it the way he wants it to be. Your focus determines your reality.
Are you satisfied, though, with the prospect that he might never be finished? Are you willing to buy every single version until he does? And are you so willing to discard every previous version along the way? If so, I just don't and can't understand that.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
I personally primarily attribute Star Wars to George Lucas. If he wants to further refine these movies to his taste, I would want to see what he would do.
I do collect the versions he has put out so far and enjoy maintaining this collection each time he releases new changes. While I do think that it would be nice if Lucas could keep up all of the various versions in high quality, I'm still going to be able to enjoy the previous versions on Laserdisc and VHS (and now non anamorpic DVD).
I am just lucky in that I think that overall Lucas' changes have improved the film even if not all changes were for the better. Your focus determines your reality.
So if it gets to the year 2035 and Lucas is STILL putting out new versions in his final years, you'll keep buying? Wouldn't you rather Lucas made one more "perfect" version to his vision, and then leave it? That way fans like you will have what they want and won't have to keep shelling out the cash. Watch DarthEvil's Who Framed Darth Vader? video on YouTube!
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I don't think Lucas will make it to 91 years old, but even if he did want to change them further, I'd still want to see them.
And by the way, I have been collecting all of his versions that he has officially released, so if he ever happens to put howard the duck into one of the versions, I'll just go back to my 2004 DVD if need be. Your focus determines your reality.
Originally posted by: Darth_Evil So if it gets to the year 2035 and Lucas is STILL putting out new versions in his final years, you'll keep buying? Wouldn't you rather Lucas made one more "perfect" version to his vision, and then leave it? That way fans like you will have what they want and won't have to keep shelling out the cash.
Just ignore the stupidity. He big in nothing important in good elephant.
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