Help wanted: New guy needs some input for my own project - please - anyone can help — Page 2

Post 26

Says the mastermind behind the fantastic 5.1 mix on the DJ V3.......

The artwork is usually in a DVD Rom folder on the DVD.

There's a set of 4 in-theater rips (one from each corner).

Using this as a guide and the most similar version (1993) with the help of other mixes it was edited back to something close to that.

If you cannot wait, navigate to the VIDEO_TS and try double-clicking the smaller *.ifo files and watch on your PC (VIDEO_TS.ifo I think). Windows Media Player usually works but I use a prog called VLC.

Back to your question....."..

From memory with Nero Express only it was something like....

Use the "Create Video DVD" option.  This would open a box with a pinky/red VIDEO_TS icon in it.

You do drag the contents of your VIDEO_TS folder into the Nero version. You can also drag the full DVD_ROM folder into your Nero box alongside the pinky/red VIDEO_TS folder. This will not affect how it all works but it is what the creator intended you do.

The AUDIO_TS is redundant......

Basically your file structure in the Nero box needs to match the file structure of the files on your PC. Then burn. The standard settings in Nero in the "Create Video DVD" option usually tended to work for me.......

If you look back at the oldest 3 or 4 pages of this forum, you will see how important the DJ V3 is. Back then, we had the SE DVD but nothing Original.

All crawls were "Episode IV.  A NEW HOPE"

We questioned missing audio lines

We argued about missing audio and which was "proper" Star Wars.

Was there a mythical "missing" Mono mix??

We argued even more about missing/different audio lines.

Did I mention the arguing!

Lots of people far more talented than me spent untold hours resolving the above over many years. DJ improved the flawed GOUT by adding to work done by g-force and others and basically brought everything together in one release.

What took us years to find out the long and painful way can now be learned by any "New Guy" in a day or two.........

I call that a result!!!

More on the audio dialogue changes here.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Definitive-tractor-beam-Close-the-blast-doors-Blast-it-Biggs-Wedge-you-dont-taste-very-good-Noooooo-Preservation-Guide/topic/13428/

All we need now is video proof that Luke did throw the grappling hook twice after the first throw missed and the rest of the old arguments will stop (mostly)

russs15 said:

DJ improved the flawed GOUT and basically brought everything together in one release.

g-force improved the flawed GOUT and DJ basically brought everything together in one release. (People sometimes forget that DJ's three DVD versions were using three different stages of g-force's great image stabilization scripts.)

russs15 said:

All we need now is video proof that Luke did throw the grappling hook twice after the first throw missed and the rest of the old arguments will stop (mostly)

John Williams score is actually enough proof that such a scene was never in the final film.

I do stand partly corrected. The work done by g-force was used on V1 to V3 but DJ then did an awful lot of extra work on top of that. It is that work I was referring to.

So we are both correct from a  certain point of view......

russs15 said:

I do stand partly corrected. The work done by g-force was used on V1 to V3 but DJ then did an awful lot of extra work on top of that. It is that work I was referring to.

So we are both correct from a  certain point of view......

Yeah, I'm definitely not saying DJ didn't do a lot of hard work, all the audio syncing alone is a phenomenal undertaking. I just see g-force's contributions forgotten in many conversations regarding these, that's all.

I have amended my original post.

I was trying to do a potted history of where we were to where we are now. To do it properly would need a book writing.....

What was a mystery is now taken for granted and dozens of people have got us to this place.

I am with you on the grappling hook but others swear otherwise.....

russs15 said:

I was trying to do a potted history of where we were to where we are now. To do it properly would need a book writing.....

What was a mystery is now taken for granted and dozens of people have got us to this place.

Agree russ, this forum is a fantastic resource for info about the history of these films, many things regarding these films have been uncovered by fellow SW-freaks on these boards over the years. If you have a question, there's almost always someone who have an answer.

Meanwhile, has our ¨New Guy¨ got himself sorted out with a decent preservation onto DVD??????

I am not sure if that last post was praise, an insult or good old-fashioned taking the piss...........

Either way, thank you very much.

I do believe over the last few days we have sucked you in to our ways. Whether you like it or not, you are now one of us and there is no turning back!!!!!!!!!!

From what I remember the DJ V3 was good old fashioned DVD format only. In fact, if it has a VIDEO_TS folder, it is DVD only.

Some of the Harmy versions out there are in a different format which could be AVCHD but this 40-something has yet to learn what that is. My Asus O Player plays it fine but other than that I am screwed for a better answer.

Likewise any question on upscaling.

There is a menu which has 5 of the audio options. The sound only track is available by your audio button on your DVD remote only.

I grew up with a UK TV early 80s recording which became a huge part of the source for the Monomix restoration project. This is my favourite.

Second favourite is the other 1977 Theatrical Stereo mix as that was my first retail copy.

The link in Post 38 tells you the differences and as you will see, the Monomix has quite a few differences.

Back to the arguments post earlier, Threepio's tractor beam line, opening/closing blast doors and who was annoying Luke on the "Blast it" line have caused some fun and games around here in the dim and distant past...... Happy days!!