Help: looking for... Star Trek 1 to 6 - HDTV, non DNR versions...

Anyone have these?

Not here but I would love to have them.  Guess it's time for another internet search.

:)

I have been looking off and on for 5 years, I should have ripped them when channel 4 in the UK showed them 6 years ago 

They used to have non-DNR HD versions on Demonoid long ago. Never saw them being seeded; otherwise, I would have grabbed them. Hopefully some one on the forum has them...

The Aluminum Falcon said:

They used to have non-DNR HD versions on Demonoid long ago. Never saw them being seeded; otherwise, I would have grabbed them. Hopefully some one on the forum has them...

I sure miss Demonoid ..... could find things there I couldn't find anywhere else.

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

What about a project based onto PAL laserdiscs?

That would be cool as a curio, but these are great looking filmic transfers.

They are old masters but miles better than the blurays and are the theatrical cuts

Star Trek: Insurrection was the last LD for the series.  As for ST: The Undiscovered Country being the extended cut for PAL and have a Nimoy prologue, I do not know.  The Collectors Edition 2 DVD set was the ONLY widely available version of the Extended Cut.  It did NOT make it to Bluray .... they are all theatrical release versions.  

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

dvdmike said:

They are old masters but miles better than the blurays and are the theatrical cuts

"They" are referred to HDTV or laserdisc versions?

It would be cool (to me, at least) to do a restoration project of EP1-8 with PAL laserdiscs as source (and EP9 from NTSC LD as no PAL LD was available) - EP1,2,7,8 have italian soundtrack, too...

By the way, EP6 on the PAL UK laserdisc boxset is the extended version, and include a prologue by Leonard Nimoy... IIRC the latter was not available on BD, right?

HDTV, I thought 6 was only the extended version worldwide on LD

dvdmike said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

dvdmike said:

They are old masters but miles better than the blurays and are the theatrical cuts

"They" are referred to HDTV or laserdisc versions?

It would be cool (to me, at least) to do a restoration project of EP1-8 with PAL laserdiscs as source (and EP9 from NTSC LD as no PAL LD was available) - EP1,2,7,8 have italian soundtrack, too...

By the way, EP6 on the PAL UK laserdisc boxset is the extended version, and include a prologue by Leonard Nimoy... IIRC the latter was not available on BD, right?

HDTV, I thought 6 was only the extended version worldwide on LD

I can tell you the NTSC LD that I have of ST: TUC is not extended. 

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

dvdmike said:

They are old masters but miles better than the blurays and are the theatrical cuts

"They" are referred to HDTV or laserdisc versions?

It would be cool (to me, at least) to do a restoration project of EP1-8 with PAL laserdiscs as source (and EP9 from NTSC LD as no PAL LD was available) - EP1,2,7,8 have italian soundtrack, too...

By the way, EP6 on the PAL UK laserdisc boxset is the extended version, and include a prologue by Leonard Nimoy... IIRC the latter was not available on BD, right?

HDTV, I thought 6 was only the extended version worldwide on LD

I can tell you the NTSC LD that I have of ST: TUC is not extended. 

Every version on LDDB is the 113 min version

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/24026/LV32301/Star-Trek-VI:-The-Undiscovered-Country-(1991)

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11216/LV32301-WS/Star-Trek-VI:-The-Undiscovered-Country-(1991)

From Wiki

he Undiscovered Country was released on VHS and in widescreen and pan and scan formats on Laserdisc in June 1992;^[116] the release added a few minutes of new footage to the film.^[117] Because of a trend in supermarket video sales and rentals, Paramount offered rebates for the home video release of The Undiscovered Country through boxes of Kellogg's Frosted Mini-Wheats.^[118] The Laserdisc version of the film was the tenth highest-selling video during 1992.^[119] The home video cut was later released for the film's 1999 DVD debut.^[117]

3 minutes of extra footage that I must've missed.  Anyone know what that extra footage is?  The ONLY extended version I've seen is the one on the Collector's 2 DVD Edition and those scenes (Spock, Volaris, and the memory flashbacks) are NOT on my LD.

I even have the original Widescreen Collection DVD with the red bar at the bottom of the cover art and I KNOW those scenes are not on that either.  I've watched it more times than I could even remember.

I just got done checking my Widescreen Collection DVD ... I'm confused as the scenes the review describes are there, just not the extra ones that ended up on the 2 Disc Collector's Edition (the flashback scenes on the bridge).

I was not aware that those scenes in the review were extra scenes so technically, I am actually wrong, and the LD, VHS and WS DVD are all the same. 

Weird and weird ........ I learned something new today.

So its a new hybrid? ugh!

I am theatrical only personally 

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2466

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2469/startrek6_undiscoveredcountry.html

Per THIS article, the Bluray is the ONLY release of the Theatrical Release ever available.

Apparently I just learned more new things .... and all in one thread.  LMAO

Extended Editions were on VHS, LD, and DVD (Single Disc)

The theatrical cut of STVI was released only when the BD (and the DVD that accompanied it) came out.  The Widescreen Collection DVD does have three minutes of added material, which includes Operation Retrieve.  The Special Collector's Edition has the added material too but also added flashbacks to the mind-meld scene.

EDIT:  I see you guys have realized this.

Technically even the BD is NOT the theatrical cut. it has redone the closing credits :-) At least according to an online article, the version with which I grew up was the VHS version.

So there should be :

- theatrical version (not released)

- VHS version (new scenes added, you guys already mentioned which they are)

- DVD version (I only have the 2DVD collector's edition, but from what I've heard the 1DVD version should have the same cut) - identical to the VHS version, but when Spock interrogates Valeris some closeups replaced wideangle shots of mainly Shatner, and the faces of the traitors are shown, but the length is NOT affected (I know because the VHS dub perfectly matched with my DVD :-) )

- BluRay version - "almost" identical to the theatrical version, but has some changes in the closing credits (I have nothing for comparing it so I don't know if it's true or not)

EDIT : According to memory-alpha.org :

The end credits had a different format for the theatrical version. It featured the Starfleet Insignia at the top and the screen split between a white background and dark lettering and the other side with a dark background with white lettering.

The pre-DNR versions are on a cerTain PuBlic tracker, but only in 720p, and if you have the patience to wait for the sporadic seed activity. It may have taken me close to 2 weeks each to get STII and STVI.

For the record, the old HDTV transfer of VI is the theatrical cut, but at 1.90:1. The credits don't have a Starfleet insignia, they look the same as the other versions.

I will believe the claim of an alternate credit sequence when I see visual proof. (Could it have only been on the 70mm prints, like the numberless TWOK title?)