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Help Wanted: WWII style edit of ANH - I need a title for this!

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First off, I welcome any crizisizem for my <span class=“Bold”>Idea</span>. Im young, and I have absulutely no Idea on how to do this, though I have a rough idea of how.
First off, I was watching Star wars yesterday in french…originaly because the sound mixes are VERY different, and I wanted to compare the sounds.
But after watching it, it sounded like a WWII movie. The french, being the “rebellion” and the evil “Hitlers German ‘Empire’”. I knew that the concepts of the Jedi will be very odd, so I changed it around. I dont want to “redo” the entire trillogy, because it will be just impossible to to ROTJ in "wwII’ terms.
Yesterday, I did the opening title crawl in windows movie maker.
Just go into movie maker, then go into tools and go into title and credits, then click any of those, then copy and paste the following in the text field:

THE GALAXY WARS
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IN THE EARTH YEAR 2679 A.D. , THE GERMAN WAR MACHINE CHARGED THORUGH EASTERN EUROPE.

THIS STARTED THE FIRST GALACTIC WAR. AFTER THREE HUNDRED YEARS OF
BUILDING COLONIES THROUGHOUT THE MILKY WAY GALAXY, THE WAR THAT ORIGINATED ON EARTH HAS NOW SPREAD TO THE STARS.

USING GIANT SPACE SHIPS, AND STRIKING FROM A HIDDEN BASE, THE FRENCH REBELLION HAS STOLEN THE SECRET PLANS FOR THE GERMAN EMPIRES NEW WEAPON, THE " DEATH STAR".

NOW ESCAPEING TO THE FORMER FRENCH, BUT NOW OCCUPIED BY THE GERMANS TATTOINE COLONIY, THE FRENCH REBELLION WISHES TO RESTORE PEACE, AND ORDER TO THE GALAXY…

I had to edit the size of the text to fit the pace of the music.
After that click on change title animation, go to TITLES, ONE LINE
then SCROLL,PRESPECTIVE and then go to text font and color.
Microsoft Sans Sarif looked the best, in bold. Make the backround black, the text yellow. You can change the transparancy to allow for a picture backround-(the very seconed of the star field in ANH perhaps?)
watch it. For effect add music (I added the ANH opening title, extend the legnth of the crawl all the war to ten end of the music.
Make sure to go to options and make sure to put it on 16:9 ratio.

Well…
after that, we cut to ANH…I wanted to beable to splice (some how be able to obtain a german DVD copy of ANH) the german tracks and the french tracks. All imperial people speak german, except Darth Vadar when hes talking to Leia. The troops that some up to the speeder in Mos Eisly speak french and german (the speak amngst themselves in german, and speak in french when talking to the locals)

So what do you think?
It could be stupid (it is…)
But done right…It could be good. But I remind you that this edit will suffice for only this movie and this movie alone. It won’t work (possibly) with ESB but I’m pretty positive that it wont work for ROTJ…unless someone can find a way to put the whole german-french-and Jedi fit together.
Feedback?

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I updated the title crawl:

THE GALAXY WARS
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IN THE EARTH YEAR 2679 A.D. , THE GERMAN WAR MACHINE CHARGED THORUGH WESTERN EUROPE, IN A DARING ATTEMPT TO RECLAIM LAND LOST AFTER WORLD WARS I AND II.

THIS STARTED THE FIRST GALACTIC WAR. AFTER THREE HUNDRED YEARS OF
BUILDING COLONIES THROUGHOUT THE MILKY WAY GALAXY, THE WAR THAT ORIGINATED ON EARTH HAS NOW SPREAD TO THE STARS.

USING GIANT SPACE SHIPS, AND STRIKING FROM A HIDDEN BASE, THE FRENCH REBELLION HAS STOLEN THE SECRET PLANS FOR THE GERMAN EMPIRES NEW WEAPON, THE " DEATH STAR".

NOW ESCAPEING TO THE FORMER FRENCH, BUT NOW OCCUPIED BY THE GERMANS TATTOINE COLONIY, THE FRENCH REBELLION WISHES TO RESTORE PEACE, AND ORDER TO THE WORLD, AND TO THE KNOWN HUMAN GALAXY…

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Yeah, what the heck. Fire it up. I got a pal who is making an album that can be cued up exactally in synch with ESB. These different multimedia projects are great. Good luck with that!
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DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think this is the coolest idea for an edit YET!


I'd love to see this in completion - this idea is awesome on a whole new level.


(all with english, german and french subs correct?)



“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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I have a few ideas that I'd like to kick your way...

If you'd be willing to hear them please drop me an email (rikter_blaksvn (@) yahoo.com)

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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I want to do it! So much, I'm glad this is getting feedback. Of cource, with english subtitles, mabe even made in black and white (it would be cool to see that...mabe)
But the thing is, I may be able to do it, and I'm supposed to be getting a computer (this november, possibly) but I'm not sure if it'll be able to play DVD's, or even edit them. Plus, someone (mabe I'll check it out on the internet) needs to tell me how to dissassembal the disc (have the audio tracks as individual files) and the video. Then editing software...I bet (although it might be sloppy...) I'll be able to do this in WMM...but that has those copyright things...plus, theres the whole matter of obtaining a german copy of the film...I'm sure I can find one on e-bay....but the thing is...(I'm not even going to say my age...If you must know, PM me...lol) I'm so young...I'm sure I can persuade my dad to buy me the german copy of ANH (or even the entire trillogy...who knows ) But theres still the matter ^of all that ^ stuff up there^.
I'll be overjoyed if someone actually overtook the project...I great ideas, having the subtitles (possibly) burned into the picture, and being able to add in the imperial march into ANH. (Not exactly the Imperial "march" just the Darth Vadar dun dun dan theme.)
Thanks for the feedback!
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This sounds so crazy it's brilliant! I have to admit, the WWII similarity with the Empire has occurred to me a couple of times, but not on this level! Go for it! I would love to see this when it's finished.


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This is a fantastic idea, and i'd love to be a part of it.

I have a friend who is currently going to school in Germany...i don't think she'd have any trouble picking up the Holy Trilogy & sending it to me in order to get this off the ground.

She's also fluent in German & a SW nerd (like the rest of us here) & could probably give a listen to the German audio track, and tell us if/how it differs from the american version.

e-mail me off-list if you wish to discuss this further

Devilman1369@gmail.com
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I don't think the French would have the balls to stand up to the Empire though. They'd probably just surrender and wait for the british and americans, which would save you a lot of editing

War does not make one great.

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Whoever does this, go with black & white. It needs to really stand out as different. I'd add film grain and possibly dust & scratches too. Sound would need to be thinned out and mono. New titles (hand painted, jerky crawl) would help.

Oh yes, and, OT.
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Wow thanks for the feedback everyone...this is what I need (i composed the list in math class.) I think...

Decent Software-If anyone can burn me great DVD software (editing of course)
With color changing (black and white is a must-) being able to cut, add music, and to be able to take out and put in individual audio tracks. What I want to do is completely take out the English, Spanish and Commentary tracks, so there will be more space for better video, or possibly a menu.....maybe even software that can create a menu too. If someone can burn me this stuff on a CD or two and send them to me, which will be greatly appreciated. I need to be able to create an entire individual audio-track by splicing both the German and the French audio tracks.

A German copy of the OT (thanks for your offer Devilman-1369, you don't need to send me the actual copies of the German trilogy, just copies will be fine...
Oh and a DVD decoder!
I’m supposed to get a computer next month (report card) from my uncle, but I'm not sure if It will be able to play DVD's, plus, the computer im using (the family computer) has a DVD drive but no decoder!
So if someone could get me this stuff (not even buy, but burn) these things, I'll be able to get right on it!
Quick question, if a computer is able to burn CD's, it can burn DVD's right? Because the computer I'm gonna get might not be able to burn DVD's... I don’t know yet....
Thanks everyone!

BTW, here’s a new title crawl:

In the year 2650, after years of prosperity and peace, the GERMAN EMPIRE has invaded Eastern Europe, in a daring attempt to re-capture land lost during the great World Wars One and Two; the German War machine has declared war on all surrounding countries, including France.

Up over the earth, and thousands of miles away, across the stars, the German Empire, using gigantic spaceships, have entered French Colony Airspace, in another daring attempt to create expand the space already granted to the Germans. Also using spaceships, the FRENCH REBELION, has stolen the secret plans to the German Empire newest weapon, the DEATH STAR.

Now, in an attempt to flee German space, the Rebellion has arrived over their space planet colony of Tattoine, to find that it has been invaded and is now being controlled by the Empire.

Now, fighting above their once own land, the French Rebellion is determined to restore, freedom, justice, and most importantly peace, to the galaxy...

Thanks!
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Why just the French and Germans? Why not include the British and Americans in the rebellion?
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Hmmmm...you got a point (that was bugging me...)
I think I'm going to make a majority of the rebellion french ("french rebellion")...I think I'll include some of the original american and brit voices...most likely the other fighter pilots (I.E. mabe wedge, some of the snowspeeder pilots, some of the other guys, mabe captain [i think] maidine in ROTJ...and other guys)
but the main enemy, is going to be the germans. Mabe I'll even dub over some of the rebellion guys in a british accent...
All things in time.
If theres anyone that can send me a copy of a DVD decoder that would be greatly appreciated.
Looks like with my christmas money I might have to forget buying the new release of the OT and spend it on a DVD burner...oh, another question, can there be external DVD burners/drives?

I came up with a list of alterations I will be making to ANH.

1. I am going to use the ROTJ fox fanfare
2. Im using TAKE 18 from the ANH CD (the diffrent takes of the main theme and imperial attack) and raising the volume of the music for the Blockade runner/ Star Destoyer opening
3. Many other musical changes, including, but not excludeing:
The timpani drum solo and the entire sequence of music when the torture droid apperars.
The music for the Death Star battle WILL be enhanced.
Alot of battle music will be enhanced, if you have any other suggestions, tell me and I'll see to it they get put into the movie.
4. I'm considering making my own credits (with all original names of cource.) but with my name, and diffrent credit music (the opening credits music will still be there, just..I might change it...)

Anything else!?
Thanks!
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i e-mailed my friend this morning...she doesn't have ready access to a PC, so i dunno how long it will take for her to get back to me, but i'll post an update as soon as i get a response
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Thanks Devilman-1369!
I'm also thinking about putting an isolated music score, but that might be another week or two of work. Mind you, I want to pack as much as I can onto a single-layer DVD.
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVEan there be external DVD burners/drives?

Yes, you can get USB2 and Firewire. I would recommand Firewire if you can, it gets much better write speeds.
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That was a big worry off by back about external DVD burners!

I think I have everything:
ANH soundtrack (to raise the volume of certin music without raising soundeffects
Software (thanks alot for the free codes,etc Ell the Ewok)
The OT (american with english and french audio tracks. Im going to mix the british and americans in)
Im going to save up birthday and christmas money for the burner.

All I need it the german copy of the OT. COPIES of the actual discs are fine, but if you want to send me the actual discs, I won't mind
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Thanks!
You got a price for the best one out there? (Firewire)


Well... I would think around the 100 USD mark. I really like my Pioneer 110D, although it was problems with the BulkPak brand. Just do some hunting on ebay.
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My mom and dad are going to get me one for my b-day (10 DAYS!)
I might just get the Pioneer 110D, it sounds good on reviews.
ALL I NEED IS THE SOFTWARE!!!
Could someone burn me copies of the adobe stuff (Premier and After Effects please!)and send them to me?
PM ME IF YOU CAN PLEASE!!!
And I need the German copy of ANH!
I think I might be able to do it on e-bay, but if someone could send me a copy that would be great!!
I ALMOST HAVE THE MATERIALS I NEED!

I have figured out some of the things I WILL do.

1.Black and white
2. The ROTJ fox fanfare
3. I will increase (using TAKE 18 from the ANH album [the diffrent take of the maintheme/blockade runner]) the music from the scroll through the end of the blockade runner scene.
4. Increase (volume) the music when Darth vader comes in and sees leia
5.I'm going to add an unused cue from ESB into the shot of the star destoyer leaving tattoine, and the first few seconeds of the tattoine wandering scene. Dont ask me how, but I am and I will! lol! I might slow down the apporach of the SD,then speed it up like its going to hyperspace.
6. Using a copy of the programs someone sends to me, I'm going to re-rotoscope ALL the lukes lightsaber scenes (if thats possible) to the same blue color that Obi-wans is.
7. I'm going to use several shots from Darth Editus ANH DVD (I LOVE IT!) I.E. the "what a peice of junk" scene and the tattoine mos-eisely intro, and the shot of Rouge Leaders death.
8. I'm NOT going to make it mono, you can do that on your own (if you want to) but I am going to make it 2.0 stereo, not DD 5.1.
9. Could I use one of those programs (Premier and After Effects) to make the flim have flim grain and scratches?

You want to suggest anything else? Share it with us!
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This is particularly cool considering that Lucas used WWII footage as inspiration for the flying fight scenes of ANH. Black and white will be sweet.

The Galaxy Wars is a good title. Other suggestions: Space Battle. The Star War.
We don't have enough road to get up to 88.
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If you are new to this then try and standardise on one video editing package,one post package and just learn it - otherwise you will end up going nuts playing around with 100 bits of software.

If you are running a PC then probably just use premiere and after effects as you won't outgrow them in a hurry, and there are plenty of plugins available for doing filmgrain, B&W effects etc.

Some advice that you can take or ignore

1) Rip it to B&W as a first step, it will save you a truckload of disc space - you can keep the original on disc if you want to tint it later etc.
2) Try and storyboard/script out your idea to get a rough feel for how it will work (you can do this while waiting for your gear)
3) Next do a really rough cut edit - don't add any effects in or play with stuff to much, just get your edit of the story down, and lay your subtitles in to see if the story works - stay in this stage till you get something that hums.
4) Only then start to dub in the audio, play with effects/transitions/fun stuff.

As for the process, you will need lots of hard disc space, make sure you format using NTFS and then an easy set of steps would probably be.

1) Download DVDShrink - it is free
2) Use it to reauthor the DVD disc to just rip the movie itself, leaving all the extras and stuff behind. It is a three click process - very easy, and rip it down to a single vob file by unticking the 'split' option.
3) Download virtualdubmod or virtualdub and avisynth - it is also free.
4) Load the VOB file into virtualdub, make it B&W using the inbuilt filters and save it back out in a format that Premiere (or your editor of choice) can read. You may want to add timecode at this point to make your life easier later on and save out a timecoded version to use as reference.
5) Start doing your edit

It is a fun idea, do you intend just having the German and French voices there for atmosphere but have the subtitles tell a totally different story?
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As for a title, just make it a sequel...

World War 3 - This time it's Imperial

Seriously though, a title is hard - Galaxy Wars makes me think of all the money I put through that machine in the arcades, but then again, I'm old...


How about making it an alternate history type deal, with the Germans winning World war 2, and then taking over the galaxy from there?
You would need much more eloquent wording for the crawl than this but....


Defeating the allies in WWII, in victory Germany conquered the rest of the world.

Still hungry for Empire, the early V2 program evolved into immense war machines, and from these spaceships they colonised and ruled the galaxy.
With an iron fist, they maintained a relative peace for Millennia.
During this time, resistance to the evil empire remained.

It is now a period of civil war.

French rebels, striking from a hidden base have won their first victory against the evil German Empire. etc.




You could keep most of the rest of the crawl as is from that point onwards - no need to put a specific date on it.

Obviously my wording is hideous and long winded, but if you could come up with a way to keep most of the crawl intact, yet totally change the feel, that could be cool.

As for a real title - I really can't think of anything - Space Nazis Must Die?

Perhaps just keep the German title?

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Another title: War in the Stars. Kinda sounds like it would be an old movie.
We don't have enough road to get up to 88.
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How about "Triumph of the Journal of the Whills"? or something like that.