Help: Looking for... a good transfer of the first issue Pan And Scan Laserdisc for Star Wars

I know Dark Jedi  did a release but has anyone since attempted making a transfer with better quality .

Not knocking the Dark Jedi version was good for its time.

Just wondering because the color timing at least as far as i can tell is different than the 1985 CAV.

More saturated and vivid less faded.

Would be Difficult to get a good transfer i understand since this is one of the worst rotters on the format.  I have 3 copies and only one is watchable.

I'm planning on transferring mine after the JSC.  I have the one that is Fox and not CBS. I haven't watched it in a couple years but it seemed in decent shape last time I saw it.

frank678 said:

Have you seen the Starkiller 1982 preservation?

I've searched everywhere for this version, i still can't find it. Is it the same master as the 1982 Rental VHS?

The  1982 rental VHS tape is the same inferior master as the 1985 CAV laserdisc.

But someone here has already done a masterful transfer of that tape.

Nope CLV and time compressed sorry to say.

Yeah its Analog only like the later 85 CAV, not even sure if its CX encoded.

The Starkiller's is on Usenet since 878 days.

Time-compressed means althor1138 will have tons of fun IVTC'ing
or go mad, whichever comes first.
Let's just say it is NOT a standard 2:3 pulldown.
I was 90% through an IVTC sript one year ago when a family tragedy struck,
and I never went back to finish. But I've still got my notes and project files stashed somewhere.

I have a copy of the 1982 rental VHS in pristine condition.

I plan to do a transfer soon with the following setup:

Panasonic AG-1980 =(s-video)=> Panasonic DMR-ES10 =(s-video)=> Hauppauge USB-Live2 Capture Card

I also have a copy of the 1985 CAV LD (same master). I'll do a preservation of that when my Panasonic LX-900 comes back from Duncan of laserdiscservice.com.

A quick response to the question - are the 82 US Laserdiscs and VHS the same?

If I understand the question correctly, the answer is no.

I put up a few screenshots here to show some of the differences between various fullscreen versions.....

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/OBITUARY-Star-Wars-Fullscreen-Pan-and-Scan-versions-RIP/topic/13517/

I captured my '82 P&S Laserdisc last night. There is a problem with side 1.  There is noise in the audio and the video is a little bit noisy as well.  Side 2 seems pretty much ok.  I can encode this and release it if anybody is interested.  I'm not going to spend the time IVTC'ing this because as Mallwalker said it is quite maddening. I've managed to get rid of the interlacing at least with the tfm filter. With that being said, I found it quite watchable as long as you don't mind the noisy audio. 

Well i'd be really interested if you'll upload it elsewhere than MySpleen or Newsgroups.

Where else is there?

Google Drive? It works pretty well. The only problem is the 5GB limit but i'm pretty sure your preservation will fit.

Just have to create a fake account with a name like "theoriginaltrilogy" or something like that then give the account name and password to the interested people so we can have access to the file easily.

It's on the spleen now.

Right now I'm comparing this against the 1982 vhs preservation.  I expected it to look about the same but they are quite different looking I think.  In color, panning and cropping.

althor1138 said:

Right now I'm comparing this against the 1982 vhs preservation.  I expected it to look about the same but they are quite different looking I think.  In color, panning and cropping.

The 1982 VHS uses the same master as the 1985 CAV LD.

The 1982 CLV LD is time-compressed and uses the same master as the 1982 CED and, possibly, the VHD.

JEDIT: IMO, the 1982 VHS / 1985 CAV LD is the most accurate colortiming reference of all the "official" releases.

I'll post some VHD shots if you like.

You have a VHD player? *faints*

I did a transfer of the pan and scan CLV a while back so reave would have something else to patch his HBO restoration with. (I didn't keep a copy for myself though.) The same time compressed master was used for both.