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The Aluminum Falcon said:

It turned out that the French distributors couldn’t get the rights to release the 70mm version. That insanely expensive version, additionally, had the strangest extras: including a “signed poster,” with facsimile signatures.

Rumor had it, once upon a time, that there was going to be a silent Brazilian release of the 70mm version. Take that as you will.

That’s a real shame. I was really excited there for a second.

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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There will probably be a US release eventually. I don’t mind you recreating it in the mean time, though. I hope someone can get their hands on a print and scan it some time.

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FrankT said:

Well, why not do another roadshow then? Why let this genius go to waste?

Maybe he will do, in the future. He likes to be in control of every aspect of his films, i.e how they are seen by the public. Maybe he will relent ultimately. But remember, many filmmakers choose not to release their 70mm versions on home video - Brad Bird, J.J Abrams(‘The Force Awakens’ IMAX scene), Zack Snyder (BvS IMAX scenes), even though they are clearly aware that there is a demand for such versions on home video.
They may be doing this to spite the audiences who bashed their film, etc or in the case of Tarantino, the lack of celluloid projection.
It’s like “The extended cut is a privilege for those that cared to visit a 70mm showing, not for those with tiny screens and digital video equipment.”

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He’s not wrong there.

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

It turned out that the French distributors couldn’t get the rights to release the 70mm version. That insanely expensive version, additionally, had the strangest extras: including a “signed poster,” with facsimile signatures.

Rumor had it, once upon a time, that there was going to be a silent Brazilian release of the 70mm version. Take that as you will.

Ah, that’d explain why we haven’t heard about it since the early specs for that release were announced. The edition (“Edition Prestige”) still exists, just without the ‘signed poster’ and the roadshow cut.

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Doing test renders for the overture. Expect a video either later today or tomorrow.

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Papai2013 said:

It’s like “The extended cut is a privilege for those that cared to visit a 70mm showing, not for those with tiny screens and digital video equipment.”

But I did go see the roadshow (twice), and now I want to see it again, because the longer cut is the superior one.

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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Colson said:

Papai2013 said:

It’s like “The extended cut is a privilege for those that cared to visit a 70mm showing, not for those with tiny screens and digital video equipment.”

But I did go see the roadshow (twice), and now I want to see it again, because the longer cut is the superior one.

Sadly, Tarantino doesn’t feel the same way, yet.

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Papai2013 said:

Colson said:

Papai2013 said:

It’s like “The extended cut is a privilege for those that cared to visit a 70mm showing, not for those with tiny screens and digital video equipment.”

But I did go see the roadshow (twice), and now I want to see it again, because the longer cut is the superior one.

Sadly, Tarantino doesn’t feel the same way, yet.

Wait, actually I think he probably does think the Roadshow version is better.

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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So, semi-related news: a 4K version of The Hateful Eight has leaked online. It’s reported as having a frame rate of 25fps, so it could be victim of PAL speedup. I’m don’t think it’s the longer cut, but I’ll report back soon with confirmation one way or the other.

After looking at screenshots of the 4K release, the colors on the 4K are much better (snow is white, for example). If it is indeed at 25fps and sped up, it might be worth slowing it down, even if it is just the regular cut (and it appears it is).

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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Colson said:

So, semi-related news: a 4K version of The Hateful Eight has leaked online. It’s reported as having a frame rate of 25fps, so it could be victim of PAL speedup. I’m don’t think it’s the longer cut, but I’ll report back soon with confirmation one way or the other.

After looking at screenshots of the 4K release, the colors on the 4K are much better (snow is white, for example). If it is indeed at 25fps and sped up, it might be worth slowing it down, even if it is just the regular cut (and it appears it is).

The FPS is fixed now, its a DCP rip

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It’s actually believed to be from okko, a Russian VOD and not a DCP.

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Colson said:

So, semi-related news: a 4K version of The Hateful Eight has leaked online. It’s reported as having a frame rate of 25fps, so it could be victim of PAL speedup. I’m don’t think it’s the longer cut, but I’ll report back soon with confirmation one way or the other.

After looking at screenshots of the 4K release, the colors on the 4K are much better (snow is white, for example). If it is indeed at 25fps and sped up, it might be worth slowing it down, even if it is just the regular cut (and it appears it is).

Can someone PM me this?

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dvdmike said:

Colson said:

So, semi-related news: a 4K version of The Hateful Eight has leaked online. It’s reported as having a frame rate of 25fps, so it could be victim of PAL speedup. I’m don’t think it’s the longer cut, but I’ll report back soon with confirmation one way or the other.

After looking at screenshots of the 4K release, the colors on the 4K are much better (snow is white, for example). If it is indeed at 25fps and sped up, it might be worth slowing it down, even if it is just the regular cut (and it appears it is).

The FPS is fixed now, its a DCP rip

Why do all of the sites report it as being seven minutes shorter than it should be and 25 fps?

zxthehedgehog said:

Can someone PM me this?

Done.

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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DoomBot said:

It’s actually believed to be from okko, a Russian VOD and not a DCP.

Interesting, would explain the framerate issues

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It’s strange. The run time is 2:40 rather than 2:47, and it’s 25 fps. Is that PAL speedup territory?

I can confirm that it is the regular cut. But man, this version looks incredible.

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All right. So how do we fix it without re-encoding?

Although honestly, I’m just going to re-encode it anyway to 1080p so I have a Blu-Ray with better colors.

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“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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it’s 25 fps with opening title, chapter intertitles and yellow subtitles (for Mexican Bob) in Russian and it’s missing some ~40-50 frames throughout if I’m not mistaken

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but mean bastards you need to hang.

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I’m going to undertake the “fixing” of this Russian version into a 24fps version with English audio. I intend to remove the hard-coded Russian subs.

Since I’ll be watching in 1080p, I’ll be making it in 1080p.

The plan is to replace the opening Russian titles with the English ones using the Blu-Ray. The scenes with hard-coded Russian subs will also be replaced with the Blu-Ray, but I will use Dr. Dre’s color matching tool to match the Blu-Rays colors to the 4K.

I might also throw the Overture on the beginning, because I happen to like the Overture quite a bit.

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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Colson said:

Papai2013 said:

Colson said:

Papai2013 said:

It’s like “The extended cut is a privilege for those that cared to visit a 70mm showing, not for those with tiny screens and digital video equipment.”

But I did go see the roadshow (twice), and now I want to see it again, because the longer cut is the superior one.

Sadly, Tarantino doesn’t feel the same way, yet.

Wait, actually I think he probably does think the Roadshow version is better.

My response that “he doesn’t feel the same way” was to your “I want to see it again” part, not about whether the Roadshow was the superior one. My meaning was lost in communication.

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Papai2013 said:

Colson said:

Papai2013 said:

Colson said:

Papai2013 said:

It’s like “The extended cut is a privilege for those that cared to visit a 70mm showing, not for those with tiny screens and digital video equipment.”

But I did go see the roadshow (twice), and now I want to see it again, because the longer cut is the superior one.

Sadly, Tarantino doesn’t feel the same way, yet.

Wait, actually I think he probably does think the Roadshow version is better.

My response that “he doesn’t feel the same way” was to your “I want to see it again” part, not about whether the Roadshow was the superior one. My meaning was lost in communication.

Gotcha. Mildly frustrating fun fact: Tarantino has a 35mm print of the Roadshow cut in his personal collection, which he showed at his movie theater earlier this year.

So it doesn’t exist only in 70mm.

“You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do you?” - Juror 8
“Silence, Earthling! My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan!” - Calvin “Marty” Klein

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Papai2013 said:
But remember, many filmmakers choose not to release their 70mm versions on home video - Brad Bird, J.J Abrams(‘The Force Awakens’ IMAX scene), Zack Snyder (BvS IMAX scenes), even though they are clearly aware that there is a demand for such versions on home video.

Maybe it’s contractural obligations.

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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Those contractual obligations do not apply for Nolan, Michael Bay and the Marvel filmmakers, but only for Zack Snyder and Brad Bird? Nah, I think it’s the filmmakers’ choice. They derive some secret pleasure from not allowing us to watch the superior versions, he he he.
This is why I would like to avoid versions which I will likely not be able to see at home. Because there is always that lingering disappointment. At least in my case.