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Well, in that case it'll still be cool to see the "open matte" versions of HP1, HP2 and HP4. You see, we don't get all the dual releases that you USA folks get (ie. a fullscreen version in addition to the proper OAR widescreen version). While in most cases this doesn't matter, in the few cases where the fullscreen is a differently framed transfer from a Super35 print, it's worth seeing. I think there's an amusing shot around that demonstrates that there's slightly more nudity in Terminator 3. Don't think that's from this forum though.

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Well I definitely we be releasing some nicely tweaked up versions of the HD HP2, I really need to get my hands on the raw HP1 broadcast.
The first version that was floating around has pulled a Casper.
Someone needs to step up and help out when this comes on again. I can't believe for all the tweakers and editors here at OT, no one is capable of a good raw HD cap.

It would be funny if it didn't suck.

Dr. M

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I've asked on the other site and I'll ask here.
Is there any demand for a non-english subtitle track?
Speak now or forever blah blah blah.

Dr. M

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Originally posted by: Doctor M


I'm now terrified about what a future BluRay/HDDVD release might look like since they love to go full 16x9 rather than preserving the OAR.


You do not have to worry about this, because the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD versions will be official studio releases. The HD-DVD version of Goblet of Fire that was released in England is OAR as all of the other Harry Potter films will be. The HD releases on t.v. are controlled by the company that owns the station so they control how the film is piped into your t.v. set. Which alot of times is not the way the director wanted his film presented. An official release in stores will be OAR.


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I'd love to see these, but I don't have HDTV so I can't help out.
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I'm considering putting my HP2 edit on hold.
Warner has announced HD releases of "many of the Harry Potter films timed to the release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix".

That means, if nothing else, better source material available. We should probably expect the OAR, and since there are no details yet, we can't say for sure they will be the theatrical cuts.

Let us evaluate:
-That's a really short turnover. 25 days to release and yet they are not yet listed on Amazon.com.
-I also recall hearing that the first few films have had DVD production stopped the beginning of this year. (Does anyone else remember that or am I crazy?)

This is starting to smell like secret surprise release, but first we want to clear the shelves of the old editions.

Dr. M

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I haven't seen the context of that short bit of text, but is it possible they mean the DVD/Hi-Def release of HP&OotP? As opposed to the theatrical release I mean.

Also, isn't HP4 available on HD/Blu-Ray in one of the regions?

EDIT: Never mind, I just went to check Digital Bits and saw the news myself. I too find it hard to believe that the discs will be out that soon. :/

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Originally posted by: klokwerk
I haven't seen the context of that short bit of text, but is it possible they mean the DVD/Hi-Def release of HP&OotP? As opposed to the theatrical release I mean.

Also, isn't HP4 available on HD/Blu-Ray in one of the regions?


No, the full release statement is "many of the Harry Potter films timed to the release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in theatres."


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No, the full release statement is "many of the Harry Potter films timed to the release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in theatres."

and the last two words: "in July."

Funny thing, it's still not an official announcement. This is leaked by another source, VideoBusiness.com, who says:

Also, many of Warner’s Harry Potter films will be released on high-def timed to the home entertainment bow of July theatrical Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.


My fingers are crossed that Warner continues to print their flippy HD-DVD/DVD discs so the other 99% of us can watch these.

Dr. M

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Originally posted by: Doctor M
I'm considering putting my HP2 edit on hold.
Warner has announced HD releases of "many of the Harry Potter films timed to the release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix".

That means, if nothing else, better source material available. We should probably expect the OAR, and since there are no details yet, we can't say for sure they will be the theatrical cuts.

Let us evaluate:
-That's a really short turnover. 25 days to release and yet they are not yet listed on Amazon.com.
-I also recall hearing that the first few films have had DVD production stopped the beginning of this year. (Does anyone else remember that or am I crazy?)

This is starting to smell like secret surprise release, but first we want to clear the shelves of the old editions.


I do remember hearing about them pulling the dvd's off the shelves and at the time it was speculated this was to allow for HD releases of all the films, I would imagine these will be the theatrical cuts in OAR. I personally suspect they will release extended editions only after the 7th film is released, although I assume that seamless branching is easier on HD media so it's possible one day we'll have two versions in one.
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Originally posted by: Doctor M
No, the full release statement is "many of the Harry Potter films timed to the release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in theatres."

and the last two words: "in July."

Funny thing, it's still not an official announcement. This is leaked by another source, VideoBusiness.com, who says:

Also, many of Warner’s Harry Potter films will be released on high-def timed to the home entertainment bow of July theatrical Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.


My fingers are crossed that Warner continues to print their flippy HD-DVD/DVD discs so the other 99% of us can watch these.


I hate those HD-DVD/DVD combo things. I do not unserstand why people that do not want to invest in HD-DVD at the current time would invest in a $40 disc that they can only access half of. If you are willing to pay double the price for a combo disc repeatedly you might as well buy an HD-DVD player. Plus, if there are any new extras (which I highly doubt, because WB is probably saving stuff for a huge 7 movie boxset after the films are released ) the only new extras would be HD extras on the HD-DVD side so there want be anything new for the DVD people anyways. I already have the DVD version I do not want it again. Those combo discs cost me $40 instead of $25. If you already have the DVD version why would you it again. And if you are wanting to have the option of HD-DVD down the road why not go ahead and get an HD-DVD player. The HD-A2 is selling on Amazon for $250, and it is a very good player. The shipping is also free.

P.S. I heard the Extended Editions would not be until after the final 7th movie is out.


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I just wanted to let everyone know that thesnitch.co.uk released the official and full statement by WB and it states that the release of the first four Harry Potter movies on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will be this fall around the time of Order of the Phoenix's release on home video not its theatricle release.


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thesnitch.co.uk would be a UK site. Are they referring to a U.S. or European release?

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I found the article you are talking about and they refer to Blu-Ray.com (which says quarter 4) and the same videobusiness.com article quoted above that says July.

There is some really confusion about this.

Dr. M

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There will not be a release in July. It will be November/December. There is not enough marketing time for a release in the first week of July.


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Something interesting to ponder.

Imsdb (internet movie script database) has the HP scripts.
As is frequently the case it's the shooting script, not the final cut that someone transcribed.

I've started through Chamber of Secrets (1/28/02 revision - that's 11 months before the release).

And here is what is really itching my brain:
Some of the deleted scenes that were added back for the TV broadcasts are not in the books (or were strongly altered).
The script on the other hand doesn't seem to have several of the deleted scenes.

On the other (3rd?) hand it DOES contain lots of additional dialog and scenes right from the book, but in neither cut of the film.

Hmmm.

Dr. M

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Originally posted by: Doctor M
Something interesting to ponder.

Imsdb (internet movie script database) has the HP scripts.
As is frequently the case it's the shooting script, not the final cut that someone transcribed.

I've started through Chamber of Secrets (1/28/02 revision - that's 11 months before the release).

And here is what is really itching my brain:
Some of the deleted scenes that were added back for the TV broadcasts are not in the books (or were strongly altered).
The script on the other hand doesn't seem to have several of the deleted scenes.

On the other (3rd?) hand it DOES contain lots of additional dialog and scenes right from the book, but in neither cut of the film.

Hmmm.


Yeah, the POA script was alot better than the actual film.


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Btw, for those following my ABC edit release, I'm wrestling with the idea of turning it into a fan edit.

Some of these deleted scenes are just wrong. They weren't in the book, the script or the theatrical cut.
Harry arm wrestling the Hand of Glory? Wtf, it shouldn't even move...

Before I start this project up again I'm going to be taking a hard look at some scenes.

Edit: I've watched ADM's cut too many times. The Hand of Glory wrestling is in the theatrical cut... you just don't know that's what it is called.

And I've decided to keep this as an extended-est cut. If I cut the film to be closer to the book there wouldn't be much left. CC really went off on his own on this one. I'd just rather see as much HP in one film as possible.

Dr. M

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I want to start off by saying that I'm grateful to Rikter for preserving the ABC-TV extended broadcasts and to ADM for the extended edits, but watching the movies one-by-one in preparation for Phoenix, I do get the sense that the original versions are tighter and better paced. You could certainly add some of the scenes back in without sacrificing too much of it, but deleting some of the scenes was the right call.

So yes, I think there's room for a variation of an extended cut. Maybe a fan edit of the extended cut?
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I know of one editor already planning an edit coincidentally of HP2.
I would think it would be better to start with the extended cut, but I believe things like "remove Dobbie" was tossed around.
Definitely not what I would be looking for.

I dunno. I think I'll go for the UberMax edition I'm working on now.
Anything trimmed (the original version of the Borgin scene) I'll have as an extra.
That way you all can go nuts editing whatever version you'd like from it.

Btw, I did get my hands on an HD version of the theatrical cut to use for pieces parts.
So the credits, larger logos, and butchered cuts at the commercial breaks will definitely be repaired.

The small ABC logo will remain only because software that removes it looks fine on stills, but on motion looks like someone has put a prism over your TV and it's MORE distracting than a tiny transparent ABC in a circle.

Dr. M

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Any luck getting a capture of the marathon this weekend?
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Not I.
Btw, it appears to be on ABCFamily not ABC proper.

A lot less people will be capable of capping that in HD...

Dr. M

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Well times running short, looks like we will again miss another chance to have these.

In the mean time I've taken up the editing of HP2 again, and things have taken another turn. More details in a few days.

I'm floored by the re-framing of some shots in the Dobbie/Pudding scene. The theatrical cut looks nice, but the ABC one shows some similar shots zoomed in uncomfortably. As a result some characters are being cramped by overscan. Some other weird-ities abound.

I'm starting to wonder of CC actually did cut this together as is frequently stated or if it was just someone else at ABC.

Dr. M

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Do you think anyone will cap them and post them to the newsgroups? I'll check around and see if I can find anything.
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Well you can try newsgroups. There's also some HD bittorrent sites like bit-hdtv.com or Hdbits.net, unfortunately the former isn't accepting new members and the latter is invite only.

I wouldn't know where else to look.
Not only am I hoping to find HP1 extended in HD, I'd like to find a better version of HP2 since it seems to have been too low of a bitrate broadcast.

Dr. M

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Originally posted by: Doctor M
Well you can try newsgroups. There's also some HD bittorrent sites like bit-hdtv.com or Hdbits.net, unfortunately the former isn't accepting new members and the latter is invite only.


Breathtaking to me that people will cap Are You Smarter Than a Fifth-Grader and not Harry Potter films.