Harmy's STAR WARS TRILOGY "Partly Despecialized Edition" HD. !!! These version are now obsolete - Look for Despecialized Editions instead!!! — Page 18

Nice work Harmy............the only thing.........the new approach shot of Mos Eisley........Re-using that highly gravelly SE material would... if inserted to the fantastically DE-SE'd work you have done.....(I can't praise you enough, mate....this is fantastic....would love to have your version in my collection)....would stand out as.....well......SE!!......a softer, less detailed, more sand-like plate could be used....perhaps keep in the new CG landspeeder...it's not the thing which brings you outta the movie...it's the texture of the landscape

J

Sorry (we are very apologetic here, ha ha!) I honestly didn't expect you to be defensive mate.

This is what I mean...

That sparkly yellow highly detailed ground added to the 97 & 2004 versions of the film which doesn't blend in with any of the previous or later Tunisia location shots just stands out as 'OBVIOUS CG' work......I'll do a mock-up.

J

Fantastic work once again Harmy! Though I don't think that the changes to the sand are 'OBVIOUS CG' work, Jaitea. To my eyes, it could pass off as a color alteration combined with some artificial sharpening. In all, it looks pretty minor and easy to ignore; however, this is just my opinion.

Hey as I said this work by Harmy is ***FANTASTIC*** can I emphasise that any more....and looking back on the Gout images of that shot!....what Harmy has inserted is unbelievable.... a real improvement.......as I said I'll do a wee mock-up.

J

You beat me to it Harmy with your responce, I just feel that the purely fantastic work you have done is tainted by that 1 cg enhanced shot. 

I'll see what I can mock-up.....what you are doing is fantastic....honestly.....that is what drew me to this site.....the "ORIGINAL" trilogy.

J

Have I said Fantastic a few times!......sorry... I mean very good...keep it up.

J

Watched the clip Harmy and it's excellent work as always. However you are using the original shot of the sandcrawler right? At the very end of the clip, your version has the Special Edition version of it.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Watched the clip Harmy and it's excellent work as always. However you are using the original shot of the sandcrawler right? At the very end of the clip, your version has the Special Edition version of it.

That shot of the newly inserted sandcrawler doesn't annoy me (or the Falcon rising outta DB94) but I agree with the cutting of the verrry false stormie on the dewback and the obvious CG Shuttle Transport ship.

J

Personally, I think it should be replaced with the GOUT because it is completely different from the original shot. Though it is not obviously CGI, it still is a brand new change that varies greatly from the original. I do question why they didn't make the shot like this back in 1977, as it does look like it can be accomplished even with the technology back then. If you are concerned about quality, I would suggest using the LFL Pwnage or DJ's V3 when it comes out. Anyway, these are just my thoughts, and it is your project.

True; it is a partly Despecialized Edition. I guess that there is no real need to replace that shot. I admit that I let myself get carried away with the idea of a pure theatrical reconstruction, and, for that Harmy I apologize. I am really looking forward to this, as it will become my definitive version of Star Wars. Additionally, after thinking it over and looking at the GOUT again, I think your decision to not replace what is not obvious CGI is the wisest, as the GOUT quality is just so bad. However, I am glad that you are open to the possibility of using DJ's V3 if it is good enough. No hard feelings?

I found some Star Wars matte paintings here, though I'm not sure if the resolution is high enough. Adywan (with his ESB theatrical reconstruction) and Jambe Davdar (think there was some mattes in his documentaries) can probably help you.

EDIT: Found two versions of the same matte painting here and here. Hope these help.

Doesn't keeping the SE sandcrawler shot mean changing the timing?  Because as I recall that shot is significantly longer than the original.  The reason I ask is because it won't synch with the 70mm or any other GOUT-based audio tracks unless you shorten it to match . . .

Harmy said:

@canadianbs101: I'm glad you liked them. I must say, I didn't burn them yet, so I still don't have the covers printed out, could you post some pictures? I'd like to see what they look like as an actual set :-)

Sure thing! It won't be till later in the week as I've lent them to my brother.

Harmy said:

Well, actually, I was gonna use the SE shot of the Sandcrawler there. It's one of those shots that are completely new, so rotoscoping cannot help and it's an ok one in the SE, it has no CG in it (except possibly the sky but that doesn't bother me) and replacing it would mean using solely the GOUT, which I wanna try and avoid as much as possible.

 I agree with you Harmy on this one , as there's no dumb CGI animals or stormtroopers anywhere the new sandcrawler isnt distracting in anyway.