Well colour me impressed, Harmy, that is some very convincing work you did there. Obviously it's not completely seamless with the unavoidable smeared parts that are left and so on, but it really looks much better. I'm frankly amazed that it works as well as it does.
Truly impressive work here. Harmy, could you PM me? I'd love to see the entire piece you've worked on.
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PM sent :-) You should just know, that the latest youtube clips are just experiments for the next version and are not part of the currently available versions. See the first post to get more info about the currently available versions.
Harmy said:
You should just know, that the latest youtube clips are just experiments for the next version.
Harmy are you planning on doing a new version of Star Wars or all three movies?.
All three, I want to hopefully encode at better quality and remove more SE changes in all of them. Namely all the CGI animals (with two possible exceptions) in STAR WARS. In ESB it would only be a few minor things but I want to redo that mainly because of the encode quality because this time I wouldn't be using Ady's AVCHD but his 14GB MKV as a source and maybe adding a bit of my own colour correction. I definitely want to give Mr. Shaw his eyebrows back in ROTJ and try and restore the original ending better. I also want to get rid of some jarring cuts like the Bantha herd in ROTJ. And I will hopefully be able to use some higher quality soundmixes as well.
But it will be quite some time before those will be finished.
Harmy said:
All three, I want to hopefully encode at better quality and remove more SE changes in all of them. Namely all the CGI animals (with two possible exceptions) in STAR WARS. In ESB it would only be a few minor things but I want to redo that mainly because of the encode quality because this time I wouldn't be using Ady's AVCHD but his 14GB MKV as a source and maybe adding a bit of my own colour correction. I definitely want to give Mr. Shaw his eyebrows back in ROTJ and try and restore the original ending better. I also want to get rid of some jarring cuts like the Bantha herd in ROTJ. And I will hopefully be able to use some higher quality soundmixes as well.
But it will be quite some time before those will be finished.
Im sure it will be worth the wait , thanks Harmy.
Wow after seeing some of the clips on youtube, especially the whole Mos Eisley sequence, I've been blown away. It's such excellent quality yet so close to the theatrical.
Asaki said:
On another seperate note...
...color me surprised... ¬_¬
You mentioned that you may redo the despecialized editions. I agree with your idea to use DJ's V3 GOUT (with permission); it would prove an excellent choice. Though I'm not quite sure about using the Blu-Ray as an HD source, from the preview on amazon.com, it doesn't look like any issues have been remedied. Although, it's possible they're just using footage from the 2004 master. In any case, I think the color corrected Adywan version is vastly superior. Although, alternatively, you probably can color correct it; your work for the ROTJ reconstruction was pretty imprssive. Also, if you make a second attempt at despecialized editions, have you considered completely despecializing the movies this time around. You obviously possess the technical ability now, as shown by your great work in restoring the whole Mos Eisley sequence. A complete HD version seems to be the holy grail... Anyway, in any case, I respect your judgment if you decide otherwise.
The Aluminum Falcon said:
Also, if you make a second attempt at despecialized editions, have you considered completely despecializing the movies this time around. You obviously possess the technical ability now, as shown by your great work in restoring the whole Mos Eisley sequence. A complete HD version seems to be the holy grail...
Signed! ;)
As to making a 100% theatrical HD version, I'm definitely not going to attempt that, because there are so many changes that with the GOUT as a source, it would be next to impossible, but I'm definitely going to make the new versions more despecialized than the old ones. I'd say, they should be like 85-90% the theatrical version.
Also, as I don't own a BD burner, my edits will definitely be just AVCHD. I want to make 720p DVD9 AVCHDs now using the HDTV broadcasts and then, when the blus come out, I might do a 1080p AVCHD version with each film split over two DVD9s.
Harmy, something that just occurred to me. Would pan & scan editions of SW be useful to the reconstruction? I know, you'd have to realign the footage and whatnot, but is that technically possible? Would it be worth a try?
This possibility has already been discussed somewhere and it would work for some shots but I've been told, that sadly there are no P&S versions that would be a good enough quality - there may be some 4:3 LD captures but all the P&S laserdiscs are pre 1990s and have pretty bad transfers, so while they have a better resolution, there are other bad video artefacts.
I pray you see this worthy project to completion, Harmy. These clips are beautiful.
And there is technically no way to do it, as every wipe in ANH and ESB was redone for the SE. You'd have to go back to the original film, and then we might as well wait for Lucas to do it. ;-)Harmy said:
As to making a 100% theatrical HD version, I'm definitely not going to attempt that, because there are so many changes that with the GOUT as a source, it would be next to impossible, but I'm definitely going to make the new versions more despecialized than the old ones. I'd say, they should be like 85-90% the theatrical version.
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I'm glad that you're planning to de-specialize more changes than in your first release, Harmy. Although, by when I said completely, I meant the changes that are obvious to the naked eye. I wasn't including redoing the wipes and the very minor changes (i.e. slightly different color timing, recomposites, different skies, different sabers, different explosions, an added starfighter here or there, enhanced laser blasts, etc.). I actually was just interested in you removing all the obvious CGI, like the added creatures and droids in Mos Eisley. What exactly is the 10-15% which will not be despecialized? Is it what I mentioned earlier: slightly different color timing, recomposites, different skies, different sabers, different explosions, an added starfighter here or there, and enhanced laser blasts? Anyway, I' m looking forward to whatever you may release in the future. This may very well be one of the most significant releases in OT history.
The Aluminum Falcon said:
What exactly is the 10-15% which will not be despecialized? Is it what I mentioned earlier:slightly different color timing, recomposites, different skies, different sabers?
Yeah, that's prety much it. But also changes like the DS detention block corridor extension, some new matepaintings, some of the CGI x-wings (only those that are not obviously CGI and look similar to the original) and stuff like that. Simply put I'm not aiming at a faithful reconstruction in terms of actual technical completeness but in terms of the viewing experience while keeping it as HQ as possible.
From the way you describe it, that's the exact release that I wanted and expected. Also, I mentioned this earlier; are you sure about using the 2011 Blu-Ray as a source? The Amazon preview looks like the color timing issues haven't been fixed. Thank you so much for planning to redo this release. Anyway, when this is released: it will be a day long remembered.
No, like I said in this post, I won't be waiting for the blu-rays. I'll use the broadcasts to make a 720p version and just keep the rontoscoped shots in lossless AVI and if the BDs prove to be an improvement, I'll make a new version using them.
Harmy said:
rontoscoped
Was that an intentional pun?
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
yep :-)
The Aluminum Falcon said:
I'm glad that you're planning to de-specialize more changes than in your first release, Harmy. Although, by when I said completely, I meant the changes that are obvious to the naked eye. I wasn't including redoing the wipes and the very minor changes (i.e. slightly different color timing, recomposites, different skies, different sabers, different explosions, an added starfighter here or there, enhanced laser blasts, etc.). I actually was just interested in you removing all the obvious CGI, like the added creatures and droids in Mos Eisley. What exactly is the 10-15% which will not be despecialized? Is it what I mentioned earlier: slightly different color timing, recomposites, different skies, different sabers, different explosions, an added starfighter here or there, and enhanced laser blasts? Anyway, I' m looking forward to whatever you may release in the future. This may very well be one of the most significant releases in OT history.
Agreed here. Harmy -- you have done amazing, amazing work. Those Mos Eisley clips are just beautiful. You may be creating the best version of SW out there and I'm on pins and needles to see more.
I just finished watching the PDE trilogy for the first time, and I loved it! They're now displayed proudly on my shelf with your custom cover designs. Thanks again for the links and the hard work Harmy.
Thanks, guys. Here's another little experiment. Again, it's not quite polished yet, and the wipe is gonna need redoing but let me know what you think.
@canadianbs101: I'm glad you liked them. I must say, I didn't burn them yet, so I still don't have the covers printed out, could you post some pictures? I'd like to see what they look like as an actual set :-)
Awesome. I hate the SE sandtroopers.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
OK, guys, I have a request. Does anyone have any high res matepaintings for SW and ESB? I know that at least the ones for ESB are somewhere out there because Ady used them for his reconstruction.
Harmy said:
Thanks, guys. Here's another little experiment. Again, it's not quite polished yet, and the wipe is gonna need redoing but let me know what you think.
Wow, looks perfect Harmy.
