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Hey guys, I wrote an article over the Despecialized Edition for my high school newspaper. You can see it here: https://friscohsnews.com/4736/viewpoints/time-for-the-original-theatrical-versions-of-star-wars/ I know this is a little off topic, but I wanted to let you guys know about this because I am pretty proud of it hahaha. Just wanted to let you guys know that you are doing a great job reaching the younger audience, and that a lot of us are doing our part to help this project spread. I took some stuff straight from the sources documentary, such as my opening paragraph, but the rest is my writing.

Theatre, Godzilla, and Star Wars; pretty much sums me up.

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Hey Harmy! Glad to see you back! Cant wait to see what you have in store for the 3.0 versions.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Harmy, have you made any plans about what are you gonna do with the ALTA, the opening logo and the crawl? I am asking this because (I think you’re aware of this waaaay before I knew about it) the Star Wars logo used in 1977-78 prints shaked like crazy compared with later pre-ANH prints, the GOUT crawl (which IIRC you used it for your recreated crawl) is not the theatrical one, and the ALTA/credit titles had dark blue drop shadows (it can be seen in the 4K77 previews).

BTW, thank you for your dedication and time spent on this project. Wishing you the best.

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Haven’t really thought about this specifically yet - but here’s my general thoughts for v3.0:
We now have 35mm preservations for that authentic experience of watching a 35mm print in a theater and I personally thoroughly enjoy watching the films that way, and if what I’ve seen of 4K77 so far is any indication, we will soon have extremely good versions for watching that way, so in order for Despecialized to make sense to even exist, it will have to take a slightly different approach.
My plan is still to undo every single change we have found, because I still stand by the argument that if we start picking and choosing which changes are the good changes and which should be removed, there could be a thousand versions and it would not please everyone. But I will try my best to do this in such a way that there are no distracting drops in quality or increases in grain levels, so that it is a consistent experience of watching a remastered release of the original version. If you think about it, this actually makes a lot of sense, seeing as how the main source will still be the official BD (otherwise, it wouldn’t really be the Despecialized Edition any more) which is remastered in this way even in places where no other changes were made.

So, in this case, I will try to make the logos look as close to how they appeared in theaters but they probably won’t “shake like crazy” just as they wouldn’t in a BD remaster.

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Those are reasonable points and I understand your goals. Nevertheless, I would love to see the shaky version in a fan restoration/scan.

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FWIW, I’ve always treated DeEd as “what a respectful Blu-ray transfer would have looked like”, and the various film transfers as “what it actually looked like in theatres” – although obviously a just-struck print would look much cleaner than the prints we’ve been able to find and use. For whatever reason, I still prefer DeEd in the end.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Hi

I have been trying to work out how to encode these to an MKV format the PS4 will read. I tried doing an encode in Handbrake to the spec I found for the PS4.
Video: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level 4.2
Audio: MP3, AAC LC, AC-3 (Dolby Digital)
It still didn’t work, I also tried it as a MV4, but no luck.

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Adywan isn’t a system, he’s a man!

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Shokara said:

ml80 said:

Haha! Awesome! Now I need to get me hands on those njvc BD’s and I’ll be set!

The Blu-ray ISO’s made by NJVC are fantastic. For now they’re the only way I watch the original trilogy.

Is that the Harmy edits that someone took and removed all the foreign language tracks and put a Blu-Ray menu on it? i.e. you can burn the file directly to a Blu-Ray disc without having to do anything to it? That’s the version of Harmy edits I’ve been looking for.

Also, what good Blu-Ray burning software do people recommend? I’d want one that also let me do a surface scan of the Blu-Ray disc so I know the Blu-Ray is perfect. As I plan on ALSO using it to burn backup data to Blu-Ray discs as well.

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ray_afraid said:

Shokara said:

ml80 said:

Haha! Awesome! Now I need to get me hands on those njvc BD’s and I’ll be set!

The Blu-ray ISO’s made by NJVC are fantastic. For now they’re the only way I watch the original trilogy.

I love the extras, but, oof, those menus…

What Harmy edit versions do you think are best for directly being able to burn to a Blu-Ray disc that has menus? I’ve been hoping someone designed real good Blu-Ray menus for these edits so we can burn them direct to Blu-Ray and the menus look something like what we get with the official versions or something high quality looking.

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android927 said:

Hi all, this is my first post, but I’ve been an admirer of Harmy’s work for some time. I really enjoy Star Wars Despecialized Edition, but I had one problem with it that was really bothering me: I think that for all of the mistakes Lucas made when he was creating the special editions, his decision to include the scene of Luke and Biggs meeting in the hangar was a good one. Up until that point we had only ever heard passing references to Biggs, and other than a brief line later on mentioning “beggar’s canyon back home”, there is really no indication that the Biggs who is flying as Luke’s wingman is the same Biggs he grew up with on Tatooine. The scene in the hanger firmly establishes that this is indeed the same Biggs, and it shows us how close the two of them really are as friends (this is even more important seeing as all of Biggs’ scenes from the beginning of the movie got cut in post-production).

The reason this scene is so vital is because it gives emotional weight to Biggs’ subsequent death during the Battle of Yavin, which otherwise does not have much more of an impact than the deaths of the many others who died during that battle. Remember that Luke grew up as an only child, and Biggs was the closest thing he had to a younger brother; by making us see Biggs as a close friend of Luke’s with whom he looks forward to spending a bright future fighting alongside, it becomes all the more tragic when that life is suddenly cut short so close to the end of the battle. I am firmly of the opinion that not only was it a good idea to add this scene back into the Special Edition, but that the scene should never have been cut in the first place.

I decided I wanted to do something about this, so I ripped the scene from the 2011 Blu-Ray version and went about editing it back into Harmy’s Despecialized Edition. This actually took longer than I expected, as I had to make a lot of adjustments to get the color to match with the rest of the film. In spite of this, and after a few hours of tinkering with the color balance, gamma, contrast, and various filters (and a few more hours of trying to get my cheap editing software to export properly without introducing any glitches or artifacts), I think I got it just right. It isn’t “archival quality”, as due to disk space restraints I was working with a 720p down-scaled version of Harmy’s original (which also helped to speed up the rendering time somewhat). However, it still looks great and is a reasonable enough size for anyone to be able to download. Below I have included a Google Drive link for a before-and-after screenshot, as well as a link for the file itself. Since I imagine that the mods would not be happy with me directly linking to the entire movie, I will instead link to a page on pastebin where the direct link can be found.

Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UarulnvFCf3-esqwC_BSp1h0rQjuDDHM/view?usp=drivesdk

Movie: link deleted by moderator.

Moderator Note: If members are in any doubt as to the site and fan edit / preservation rules - even after reading them, then please ask a moderator - BEFORE putting up links - thank you.

One problem with that scene is if I remember correctly, I believe Lucas had to edit out Biggs talking about Luke’s father or something. And so that scene in the Blu-Ray’s has R2-D2 looks like he jumps up when he is being raised up due to part of it being edited out. I’m sure though that could have probably been fixed by them isolating R2-D2 and his lift and rotoscoping it in so R2-D2 doesn’t have that jump up effect. I’ve not looked at it in a while, so don’t know if they’d have to CGI in some parts of R2-D2 depending on if actors are covering up part of R2-D2 to make that fix not work without CGI fixing it.

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Ryan said:

android927 said:

Hi all, this is my first post, but I’ve been an admirer of Harmy’s work for some time. I really enjoy Star Wars Despecialized Edition, but I had one problem with it that was really bothering me: I think that for all of the mistakes Lucas made when he was creating the special editions, his decision to include the scene of Luke and Biggs meeting in the hangar was a good one. Up until that point we had only ever heard passing references to Biggs, and other than a brief line later on mentioning “beggar’s canyon back home”, there is really no indication that the Biggs who is flying as Luke’s wingman is the same Biggs he grew up with on Tatooine. The scene in the hanger firmly establishes that this is indeed the same Biggs, and it shows us how close the two of them really are as friends (this is even more important seeing as all of Biggs’ scenes from the beginning of the movie got cut in post-production).

The reason this scene is so vital is because it gives emotional weight to Biggs’ subsequent death during the Battle of Yavin, which otherwise does not have much more of an impact than the deaths of the many others who died during that battle. Remember that Luke grew up as an only child, and Biggs was the closest thing he had to a younger brother; by making us see Biggs as a close friend of Luke’s with whom he looks forward to spending a bright future fighting alongside, it becomes all the more tragic when that life is suddenly cut short so close to the end of the battle. I am firmly of the opinion that not only was it a good idea to add this scene back into the Special Edition, but that the scene should never have been cut in the first place.

I decided I wanted to do something about this, so I ripped the scene from the 2011 Blu-Ray version and went about editing it back into Harmy’s Despecialized Edition. This actually took longer than I expected, as I had to make a lot of adjustments to get the color to match with the rest of the film. In spite of this, and after a few hours of tinkering with the color balance, gamma, contrast, and various filters (and a few more hours of trying to get my cheap editing software to export properly without introducing any glitches or artifacts), I think I got it just right. It isn’t “archival quality”, as due to disk space restraints I was working with a 720p down-scaled version of Harmy’s original (which also helped to speed up the rendering time somewhat). However, it still looks great and is a reasonable enough size for anyone to be able to download. Below I have included a Google Drive link for a before-and-after screenshot, as well as a link for the file itself. Since I imagine that the mods would not be happy with me directly linking to the entire movie, I will instead link to a page on pastebin where the direct link can be found.

Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UarulnvFCf3-esqwC_BSp1h0rQjuDDHM/view?usp=drivesdk

Movie: link deleted by moderator.

Moderator Note: If members are in any doubt as to the site and fan edit / preservation rules - even after reading them, then please ask a moderator - BEFORE putting up links - thank you.

One problem with that scene is if I remember correctly, I believe Lucas had to edit out Biggs talking about Luke’s father or something. And so that scene in the Blu-Ray’s has R2-D2 looks like he jumps up when he is being raised up due to part of it being edited out. I’m sure though that could have probably been fixed by them isolating R2-D2 and his lift and rotoscoping it in so R2-D2 doesn’t have that jump up effect. I’ve not looked at it in a while, so don’t know if they’d have to CGI in some parts of R2-D2 depending on if actors are covering up part of R2-D2 to make that fix not work without CGI fixing it.

He said he doesn’t care or notice about the big R2 jump. And Adywan has indeed fixed this (I was impressed that I didn’t really see any seams/problems).

Anyway, I suppose this is off topic unless this guy makes a fan edit thread.

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Traveller said:

Hi

I have been trying to work out how to encode these to an MKV format the PS4 will read. I tried doing an encode in Handbrake to the spec I found for the PS4.
Video: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level 4.2
Audio: MP3, AAC LC, AC-3 (Dolby Digital)
It still didn’t work, I also tried it as a MV4, but no luck.

Hey Traveller,

I don’t own a PS4, but it’s my understanding that they can play MP4s from USB drives just fine. Does the handbreaked file play on your computer? And have you looked around in the How-To’s and Technical Discussions area?

You can also do a key word search of this site by doing a custom google search. Just put this in the search field and substitute the underscores for your search terms:

____________ site:http://originaltrilogy.com

Anybody else have any thoughts?

The NJVC Custom Bluray Set of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions is available on Mega.

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GZK8000 said:

Those are reasonable points and I understand your goals. Nevertheless, I would love to see the shaky version in a fan restoration/scan.

The one thing I love about modern technology and older movies being remastered for Blu-Ray is they can fix the “shaky” film and things like the logo and ending credits shaking. I believe they use software that automatically corrects the shakiness by digitally re-aligning each frame. I remember always hating the shakiness of film that doesn’t happen anymore with modern movies. Kind of like always hating matte lines in the older movies that we no longer have to deal with in new movies and digital/CGI.

Though they don’t always fix the shaking logos for Blu-Ray releases of older movies.

I’m also really glad we don’t much have to deal with terrible film grain anymore in new movies. I’m one of those that has always hated film grain.

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towne32 said:

Ryan said:

android927 said:

Hi all, this is my first post, but I’ve been an admirer of Harmy’s work for some time. I really enjoy Star Wars Despecialized Edition, but I had one problem with it that was really bothering me: I think that for all of the mistakes Lucas made when he was creating the special editions, his decision to include the scene of Luke and Biggs meeting in the hangar was a good one. Up until that point we had only ever heard passing references to Biggs, and other than a brief line later on mentioning “beggar’s canyon back home”, there is really no indication that the Biggs who is flying as Luke’s wingman is the same Biggs he grew up with on Tatooine. The scene in the hanger firmly establishes that this is indeed the same Biggs, and it shows us how close the two of them really are as friends (this is even more important seeing as all of Biggs’ scenes from the beginning of the movie got cut in post-production).

The reason this scene is so vital is because it gives emotional weight to Biggs’ subsequent death during the Battle of Yavin, which otherwise does not have much more of an impact than the deaths of the many others who died during that battle. Remember that Luke grew up as an only child, and Biggs was the closest thing he had to a younger brother; by making us see Biggs as a close friend of Luke’s with whom he looks forward to spending a bright future fighting alongside, it becomes all the more tragic when that life is suddenly cut short so close to the end of the battle. I am firmly of the opinion that not only was it a good idea to add this scene back into the Special Edition, but that the scene should never have been cut in the first place.

I decided I wanted to do something about this, so I ripped the scene from the 2011 Blu-Ray version and went about editing it back into Harmy’s Despecialized Edition. This actually took longer than I expected, as I had to make a lot of adjustments to get the color to match with the rest of the film. In spite of this, and after a few hours of tinkering with the color balance, gamma, contrast, and various filters (and a few more hours of trying to get my cheap editing software to export properly without introducing any glitches or artifacts), I think I got it just right. It isn’t “archival quality”, as due to disk space restraints I was working with a 720p down-scaled version of Harmy’s original (which also helped to speed up the rendering time somewhat). However, it still looks great and is a reasonable enough size for anyone to be able to download. Below I have included a Google Drive link for a before-and-after screenshot, as well as a link for the file itself. Since I imagine that the mods would not be happy with me directly linking to the entire movie, I will instead link to a page on pastebin where the direct link can be found.

Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UarulnvFCf3-esqwC_BSp1h0rQjuDDHM/view?usp=drivesdk

Movie: link deleted by moderator.

Moderator Note: If members are in any doubt as to the site and fan edit / preservation rules - even after reading them, then please ask a moderator - BEFORE putting up links - thank you.

One problem with that scene is if I remember correctly, I believe Lucas had to edit out Biggs talking about Luke’s father or something. And so that scene in the Blu-Ray’s has R2-D2 looks like he jumps up when he is being raised up due to part of it being edited out. I’m sure though that could have probably been fixed by them isolating R2-D2 and his lift and rotoscoping it in so R2-D2 doesn’t have that jump up effect. I’ve not looked at it in a while, so don’t know if they’d have to CGI in some parts of R2-D2 depending on if actors are covering up part of R2-D2 to make that fix not work without CGI fixing it.

He said he doesn’t care or notice about the big R2 jump. And Adywan has indeed fixed this (I was impressed that I didn’t really see any seams/problems).

Anyway, I suppose this is off topic unless this guy makes a fan edit thread.

Yeah, I read later down that he “didn’t care” after I posted that.

Though for me it doesn’t matter as I’m just interested in the Harmy despecialized version.

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solkap said:

Traveller said:

Hi

I have been trying to work out how to encode these to an MKV format the PS4 will read. I tried doing an encode in Handbrake to the spec I found for the PS4.
Video: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level 4.2
Audio: MP3, AAC LC, AC-3 (Dolby Digital)
It still didn’t work, I also tried it as a MV4, but no luck.

Hey Traveller,

I don’t own a PS4, but it’s my understanding that they can play MP4s from USB drives just fine. Does the handbreaked file play on your computer? And have you looked around in the How-To’s and Technical Discussions area?

You can also do a key word search of this site by doing a custom google search. Just put this in the search field and substitute the underscores for your search terms:

____________ site:http://originaltrilogy.com

Anybody else have any thoughts?

Actually, I got it worked out. Apparently PS4’s need video files inside a folder and not on the root of the drive, otherwise they won’t appear.

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Ah, OK. Good to know. I’ll keep it in mind in case somebody else has a similar problem down the road.

The NJVC Custom Bluray Set of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions is available on Mega.

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