Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1 — Page 10

hi harmy,

i've finished watching the work print and it is amazing.  here are some suggestions if you need them :-)

1.  the new colors don't stick out to me if they're consistent.  At the ewok camp at night when c3po and r2d2 are telling the story if you look in the background at the night air it alters from dark blue to dark green where as in the gout I think it just stays one color.

2.  at 1:35:34 it looks like the endor moon is way too bright and not green enough

3.  when the emperor electricutes luke and is talking his face has sort of a warm pallete (more red tinted)where in all other versions and earlier in the work print his face looked more cold tinted (white/light blue).

4.  at 1:53:13 and 1:53:44 ackbar is way too red.  Where as in the rest of the work print he is sort of a dark brown/red.  also when the guy says "sir, we've lost our rear deflector shields" his skin and the skin of the people sitting around him looks a little too pink.

5.  the sky looks different at 1:58:56 which again could just be because the workprint is brighter

6. in some shots the glow on lukes saber looks a little wide to me.

7. at 1:52:50 landos lips look a little too pink but that could be due to the lighting

Thank you for this amazing release harmy i can't wait for the final show :-)

Thank you. I'm going through the workprint putting down all the suggestions I'd like to try and fix.

Here's part 1 of my review. I've made it about an hour into the workprint so far.

Overall, things are looking very good! I did notice that the GOUT seems to be more blue than your DeEd. Was that intentional?
  
8:44, 8:55, 9:03, 9:11, 9:19 - Luke's hologram in GOUT seems more blue (8:39 and

9:22 seem to match). Not a big deal for me, but I know some people seem to take the holograms very seriously.

13:57 - 14:00 - This is hard to explain. The smoke hiding the GOUT Jabba seems to drop in increments - almost a strobe-like effect. It happens about once a second, getting less transparent each time. Then at 14:00, it seems to fade out too quickly. I would suggest a more gradual fade if possible. (I realize only so much is possible with this).

27:45 - Jabba says something but there's no subtitle. Is GOUT like this?

48:04 - The background behind General Madine is very bright. It's hard to make out the lights in the wall, as opposed to GOUT, which has more defined lights.

50:47 - The circular control panels look like they need to be more blue.

55:52 (approx) - I know in the speederbike chase, a bad matte line on the right side of the screen was fixed? But I don't know the exact frame. Did you restore the bad matte?

Man, it's great to see all this very specific feedback. :)

Yeah, I'm really glad about that, thanks guys.

There is this one encoding error that I spotted, which is in the source file, so there may be more and it's the kind of glitch that was only spotted in SW DeEd after many eyes started scrutinizing it after the "final" release.

And me having to make another version could have been avoided if these things were already spotted in the workprint. I'd really like to avoid that situation with Jedi and I therefore decided, that I'm not gonna release ROTJ until somebody spots that glitch I already know about in the WP.

Harmy said:

And me having to make another version could have been avoided if these things were already spotted in the workprint. I'd really like to avoid that situation with Jedi and I therefore decided, that I'm not gonna release ROTJ until somebody spots that glitch I already know about in the WP.

Well, it's not just one frame, it's a similar error as the one in Luke's hair when he says "I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you" in SW DeEd and it definitely isn't in other HD files and on the DVD, I already checked ;-)

Erikstormtrooper said:

50:47 - The circular control panels look like they need to be more blue.

 

That scene seems to be too bright in general.  Is the Emperor's face meant to be seen quite so clearly in this shot?  Also, the video screen behind them goes from red to purple as the Emperor is walking toward Vader @ 51:02.

Well, those panels do bother me but I'm afraid I can't fix them without fucking up the rest of the colours in those scenes. Apart from the panels, I think the scene looks fine though.

Here's the second and final part of my review:

1:29:37, 1:29:40 - moving garbage matte around Death Star

1:41:26 - some kind of encoding/compression glitch on the bottom of the AT-ST as it blows up. Is this the secret glitch?

1:43:43 - this shot of the emperor looks too bright compared to GOUT

1:52:58 - visible garbage mattes on TIE fighters

1:56:25 - Wedge looks like his contrast has been jacked way up - muddled blacks, blown out whites, and excessive grain. The other shots in the reactor core look like they suffer from this slightly.

2:01:09 - GOUT cuts to shot of ghosts, but DeEd stays on Luke and Leia and repeats a few frames. DeEd then cuts to ghosts about a half second late, then cuts to the final hero shot a half second late. This is probably to work around the trimmed shots in the SE, but the repeated frames of Luke and Leia at 2:01:09 should probably be removed in some way. Can you slow down the ghost shot?

2:01:22 - the credits for the GOUT change about half a second before the DeEd. This runs to the end of the credits. Judder on credits is also quite noticable. Is this from DJ's Project Blu?

Erikstormtrooper said:

Here's the second and final part of my review:

Thanks a lot :-)

1:41:26 - some kind of encoding/compression glitch on the bottom of the AT-ST as it blows up. Is this the secret glitch?

 

I don't see anything there, could you maybe post a screenshot? (And no, it's not the secret glitch ;-)  )

1:56:25 - Wedge looks like his contrast has been jacked way up - muddled blacks, blown out whites, and excessive grain. The other shots in the reactor core look like they suffer from this slightly.

I'm afraid that is inherent to the 04 transfer.

2:01:09 - GOUT cuts to shot of ghosts, but DeEd stays on Luke and Leia and repeats a few frames. DeEd then cuts to ghosts about a half second late, then cuts to the final hero shot a half second late. This is probably to work around the trimmed shots in the SE, but the repeated frames of Luke and Leia at 2:01:09 should probably be removed in some way. Can you slow down the ghost shot?

That's just a mistake, I forgot to cut off the end of the despecialized shot when inserting it, it will of course not appear this way :-)

2:01:22 - the credits for the GOUT change about half a second before the DeEd. This runs to the end of the credits. Judder on credits is also quite noticable. Is this from DJ's Project Blu?

 

Yeah, the workprint credits are straight GOUT and are just temporary until DJ sends me those from his project. Those first few seconds of the credits are from DJ's project Blu and the difference just goes to show how much worse this project would be if I didn't have access to DJ's footage. He's so patient with me asking for more and more clips, I'm very grateful :-)

Thanks to everyone who's helping Harmy out here, you guys are the apostles of awesomeness. Thanks again for what you're doing Harmy. This is so damn exciting. You're bringing so much joy to so many people. You should be REALLY proud of what you've accomplished. You're a great man Harmy, a godlike figure in the Star Wars universe. We've been sitting around this forum waiting for this for so long. You rule Harmy.

It's a little disconcerting that the motley crew here have more quality control then an official release from Lucasfilm.

see you auntie said:

It's a little disconcerting that the motley crew here have more quality control then an official release from Lucasfilm.

 I'm  sorry to correct you, but I believe it's spelled Mötley Crüe.

Thanks, guys. I'm close to finishing ROTJ now. I'll just wait for DJ to send me the credits from his Project Blu and fix some of the things suggested (most of them I already fixed) :-)

And then only wait till someone spots that glitch...

I would've had a look too, but I've only had around 4 GB of bandwidth left for the month for the past week (then it's $2 per GB over), so other than looking at web pages, I've pretty much been doing no downloading.

Wow, that sucks some serious ass...

Harmy said:

1:41:26 - some kind of encoding/compression glitch on the bottom of the AT-ST as it blows up. Is this the secret glitch?

 

I don't see anything there, could you maybe post a screenshot? (And no, it's not the secret glitch ;-)  )

Here's a screenshot. The glitch thing goes on for several frames. The explosion is very blocky.

Oh, that. It does look like a glitch but not only is it on the official 04DVD but also in the GOUT, so I suppose it's a very obvious matte box or some other by-product of the optical effect. It only looks more like a digital error here, because of the compression of the WP. Thanks a lot for going into all that trouble and posting the screenshot though :-)

Snatcher42 said:

Here's the second half of my notes. Again all very minor stuff, and sorry if some of it's already been pointed out!

1:06:22 - fullscreen encoding glitch (after shot of chewie)

Cool, it would really bother me if something like that only got noticed after release, thank you!!!

But it's not the secret glitch but the discovery of this new error only proves that the secret glitch idea is a good one  ;-)