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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1 — Page 63

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A weird glitch happens at frame 21588 (according to VirtualDubMod frame count) - when the subtitle disappears, you can see at this frame the bodies of Jabba and C3PO at the place previously occupied by subtitles, the rest of the frame shows Leia and Chewie.

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I have read through the thread reading and trying to make several attempts to see this work print could someone please PM the link. Thank You In Advance.

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Sudden color changes are normal during wipes. But thank you anyway - better to get reports of stuff that doesn’t need fixing than not get reports of stuff that does.

So far, a few mistakes were caught - some missing subtitles (CatBus, do you think you could make a subtitle track that only has those subs that are missing? Just for this workprint - I will be replacing all the subs for the final version) and the shot of R2D2 from the 2011 Blu-Ray with the silly extra gadgets added (I fixed one but didn’t know they did it for two shots) - watch for the Ewok eyes - I might have missed some of those too.

As for the re-comps, I think those I will leave for v2.5. The plan is also for v2.5 to have a more careful restoration of the 35mm shots, like stabilization and manual cleanup - in 2.0, they’ll probably stay as they are in the WP.

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Harmy said:

As for the re-comps, I think those I will leave for v2.5. The plan is also for v2.5 to have a more careful restoration of the 35mm shots, like stabilization and manual cleanup - in 2.0, they’ll probably stay as they are in the WP.

That’s good to hear. I watched a few scenes last night and noticed the jitter on the pan-up from the forest to fireworks at the end.

ROTJ Storyboard Reconstruction Project

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Harmy said:

As for the re-comps, I think those I will leave for v2.5. The plan is also for v2.5 to have a more careful restoration of the 35mm shots, like stabilization and manual cleanup - in 2.0, they’ll probably stay as they are in the WP.

I think the 35mm stuff immediately after the funeral pyre leading into the Ewok celebration (approx. 2:04:34-2:04:54) really ought to be stabilized in the final 2.0. The other instances of gate weave aren’t too distracting, but right there it gets pretty extreme.

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^ This!

I also think that some scenes of the 35 mm material needs to be stabilized. Some scenes are very "edgy/twitchy " to watch. But beside that the new 35 mm material looks awesome and they are a big advantage over the previous version. I skipped through it and will have a exact watch at the weekend. Thank you Harmy!!

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I’ve found that even ‘warp stabilizer’ in adobe can have a pretty good effect for gate weave as long as you cut between shots.

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Delete please.

“This will begin to make things right.” Lor San Tekka

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Harmy, thank you for your work (and to all of the sources used). ROTJ 2.0 WP really looks great!

“This will begin to make things right.” Lor San Tekka

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Harmy said:

So far, a few mistakes were caught - some missing subtitles (CatBus, do you think you could make a subtitle track that only has those subs that are missing? Just for this workprint - I will be replacing all the subs for the final version)

At least for now, people could use the subtitle file ROTJ-en-titles.srt included with the workprint, which does all of the subtitles, plus crawl and opening titles. I don’t have good Internet access today, so a better option would need to wait a bit at least. Or I suppose someone could just delete the extra subtitles out of that file and upload the result – that’d be fine with me.

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Bloody outstanding! Like borisanddoris, I just watched this in my home theater room. Sixteen foot wide scope screen, MKV played back via a Dune Smart D1 and I was blown away. I can only imagine what the final, fully realized version will look like. I applaud you for the dedication and I envy you for the talent. To quote Clark Griswold, because I am going to be able to do a proper OT marathon leading up to next Thursday, “This is gonna be the hap-hap-happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tap danced with Danny f****** Kay!”

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One more thing - the Rancor scene was dark. I mean it was "so dark I have to adjust the brightness to actually see what’s going on " dark. Is that correct? I have seen ROTJ only on VHS tapes (and the GOUT once) but I never seen it so dark. It’s not a complaint, just a question.

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n00b said:

Vader’s death scene seems a bit too blue to me.

I noticed that too when I put this and 1.0 side-to-side. I’m not sure which is the more accurate, but Harmy did say the color of the workprint is temporary, so I’m sure it’ll be set right by the official release! 😃

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I quickly went through the film. Tomorrow I’ll watch it on my tv. The Rancor Scenes was dark also after Oola falls into the pit it looked like there was magenta color in some of the frame. Can’t wait to sit down and watch it entirely.

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Firstly, thanks for the amazing work - great to have this in time for watching before TFA 😃

Just downloaded the workprint and flicking through it - I noticed that there seem to be a couple of grey vertical lines in the background around 0:13:49 - 0:13:52 (019900 - 019970), on the left behind Jabba, I think they appear when he leans forward. I’m not sure if these were in the original, but they look like they shouldn’t be there.

Anyway, keep up the good work 😃

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There’s an awful lot of flicker on the shot with the skiff speeding off after Jabba’s barge explodes (approx 0:36:10). I know you said a lot of the 35mm tweaks would probably have to wait until 2.5, Harmy, but this really jumps out at me. If that and the gate weave at the Ewok celebration I mentioned a few posts ago were the only fixes of that nature in 2.0, I’d be happy with that.

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Can someone please pm me the link? I haven’t gotten the email, even though I signed up for it.

PS> I’m a college professor who uses these versions in the classroom for educational purposes. I just want to say–thank you so much, Harmy, for helping me to teach these films the way they should be taught.

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joefavs said:

Harmy said:

As for the re-comps, I think those I will leave for v2.5. The plan is also for v2.5 to have a more careful restoration of the 35mm shots, like stabilization and manual cleanup - in 2.0, they’ll probably stay as they are in the WP.

I think the 35mm stuff immediately after the funeral pyre leading into the Ewok celebration (approx. 2:04:34-2:04:54) really ought to be stabilized in the final 2.0. The other instances of gate weave aren’t too distracting, but right there it gets pretty extreme.

Yeah I noticed the wobble in the picture with the fireworks scene and some strange looking blacks with artifacts throughout the darker scenes in the film. Hopefully a hybrid of 35mm film sources could fix this for 2.5. All-in-all though, a great improvement from the 1st version of ROTJ DE. Thanks so much for your hard work Harmy!


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I haven’t noticed anything yet that hasn’t already been pointed out, but I just wanted to join the chorus and publicly say thanks, Harmy! Even in this workprint state, the movie looks outstanding – superior to v1.0 in every respect. Well done!

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paladinryan said:

Can someone please pm me the link? I haven’t gotten the email, even though I signed up for it.

PS> I’m a college professor who uses these versions in the classroom for educational purposes. I just want to say–thank you so much, Harmy, for helping me to teach these films the way they should be taught.

I ended up finding the email in my ‘promotional’ tab in gmail. So it’s probably either there or spam.

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The workprint already looks good! I’ve compiled a list of things I’ve noticed based on references from doubleofive’s comparison chart.

  • 0:02:27:12 / 003540: The compositing on the TIE fighter appears to be the corrected SE one. I don’t know if you want to revert that to the original transparent form or…?
  • 0:12:23:00 / 017832: This entire sequence is a relief to see again! Noticeable gate weave though.
  • 0:14:30:11 / 020831: There’s a visible discolouring left by the subtitles. It lasts for a few frames.
  • 0:33:57:18 / 048906: This shot seems a little fuzzy. Don’t know if it was like that in theatres. Might have been.
  • 0:34:17:13 / 049381: Apparently this shot was just shades of tan, but I can see some blue sky. Is this exclusive to GOUT prints, or is the theatrical print like that?
  • 0:36:10:23 / 052103: Noticing a few vertical lines (scratches) in this shot, just at the bottom-left corner.
  • 0:36:15:10 / 052210: Possible healing error on the centre dune.
  • 0:36:17:04 / 052252: Bit dusty.
  • 0:45:05:15 / 064935: May be a 2004 recompsite: there is an odd vertical light element thru Obi-Wan’s head, which previously was a branch.
  • 0:53:10:03 / 076563: The outline between Vader and the screen is smoothed - a 1997 correction. Again, don’t know if you want to keep or change that.
  • 1:42:18:13 / 147325: 2011 R2. Presumably you already know about it, but I’m making a note of it here for completion’s sake. (also notice the colour’s a bit haywire here.)
  • 1:56:17:20 / 167468: Looks like the redone Emperor’s shaft explosion.
  • 2:04:35:13 / 179413: Noticeable gate weave for this and the next few shots.
  • 2:06:20:18 / 181938: Gate weave noticeably stops just as the end credits appear. May be able to apply the HDTV final shot here, at least to a degree.

Other than that, great job!

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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FrankT said:

  • 0:02:27:12 / 003540: The compositing on the TIE fighter appears to be the corrected SE one. I don’t know if you want to revert that to the original transparent form or…?

Harmy has said that regular recomposites will probably be left alone for 2.0. I really support this idea, so long as new elements aren’t added or anything removed. Since his approach, this time, is to use full 35mm shots and do less rotoscoping (again, an idea I like), I think it is much better to have the ships a few pixels off and looking fantastic than technically correct with a noticeable quality and grain shift with changes in contrast and gate weave. Those things aren’t really a big deal when it means restoring a scene with actual SE changes, though.

Obiwan’s branch head is admittedly a trickier decision. I’m certainly fine with most of the Obiwan shots as they are in the SE (perhaps with a slight color shift), but they did mess that one shot up.

(not complaining about the fact that you’ve added them to your list. Best to be complete and descriptive!)