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Hal’s Rogue One edit (a half-assed version of DigMod’s) (Released) — Page 7

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EddieDean said:

Apologies, folks, I’m just trying to understand the status of the various Rogue One projects right now. In my understanding:

  • DigMod created Rise of the Rebellion a while back, with a fair few changes on too of the base film.
  • HAL made one change to that for his edit (what was that?)
  • The recent deepfakes have been included in v2s of both of those.
  • Burbin’s and others’ recent suggestions have spawned a few new ideas, which DigMod has implemented and Hal intends to (meaning the two are still identical except for Hal’s one change?)

And Rogueleader, forgive me, I can’t remember if you’ve made your own edits, but it looks like you’ve got even more radical (but still great sounding) ideas? But I’m not clear if you’re going to implement those or if HAL/DigMod are?

It all sounds good and it feels like there’re no bad options here, I’m just struggling to follow the changes per editor right now!

Afaik the biggest differences between Rise of the Rebellion and Hal’s edit is that Rise of the Rebellion has a crawl/wipes/the removal of planet titles and Hal’s edit does not. Rise of the Rebellion also cuts some bits like the “are you serious? I’m blind!” line that Hal’s edit leaves in (thankfully because I love that line).

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EddieDean, for the most part yes. I’m kind of leaching the awesome ideas in this thread 😃
The BIG difference in the current edition I’m making is that members of Rogue One will survive the assault on Scarif. The scenes up until Scarif will remain similar. I’m taking ideas from this thread and slightly adjusting them based on personal preference.

Jarbear, I was going to suggest using Jyn’s line about seeing her father’s message to make Bodhi’s connection flow, but it looks like you have the same idea 😃 I stopped it after she says her father so that we get Bodhi and Baze’s despair scene first. Then she starts to rally them about fighting back and Cassian walks over.

I think I’m ready to call my own new version completed, unless you all come up with other new and awesome ideas. I’ll also be making an updated version of my base edit with the newer updates but with the original ending. Thanks for letting me leach on to this project thread 😃

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Of course!

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Burbin said:

Personally I prefer the way it plays out originally, Cassian’s main objective is to “authenticate the story and then if possible find [Galen Erso]”. They believe he is critical to the development of this weapon, which plays into the orders to kill him. And on that note, I wouldn’t want to lose Draven’s reaction to “Jedah Destroyed”, it gives his orders more motivation (killing Galen, commanding a direct assault on Eadu). He feels “a decision needed to be made”.

Those cut lines are also where Cassian autheticates the story, “Weapon Confirmed. Jedah Destroyed”. He then asks if he proceeds with the secondary objective after learning Galen is on Eadu. Jynn’s “speech” is not meant to rally them to go to Eadu, she’s telling them her father is not the evil imperial they believe, it has a purpose as it is what makes Cassian hesitate on following his orders. The Rebels don’t know that Galen is working against the Empire, and neither does Cassian, since the message was destroyed on Jedah, he has to trust Jynn’s word.

I think if this change was merged with the “secret mission” change, it would muddle the motivations of everyone. The progression in the story makes more sense if “finding Galen” is given some importance from the beggining.

Ah, those are good points and it would make it “murky” about Cassian’s “secret” orders. What would be the point of those orders if the earlier scene at the briefing room was just about finding the pilot. I also get what you mean with Jynn’s role and it does make some sense. There would be a disconnect with the “kill orders” if there was nothing officially or unofficially talked about finding Galen.

SO I would be ok with not going that route now for the sake of the “secret kill orders” since that change in itself I think adds plenty of benefits.

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jarbear said:

Ah, those are good points and it would make it “murky” about Cassian’s “secret” orders. What would be the point of those orders if the earlier scene at the briefing room was just about finding the pilot. I also get what you mean with Jynn’s role and it does make some sense. There would be a disconnect with the “kill orders” if there was nothing officially or unofficially talked about finding Galen.

SO I would be ok with not going that route now for the sake of the “secret kill orders” since that change in itself I think adds plenty of benefits.

It could simply be explained as Draven saying, find the pilot and bring him to us so we can find and eliminate Erso. Returning the Pilot would go along with that narrative. Their learning of Galen being on Eadu then prompts Cassian to update the mission status and ask if they should go to Eadu to finish the mission. Draven says proceed and stick to his orders. No continuity issues, imo. Especially due to the fact that the order is never explicitly heard from Draven.

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As cool as the idea is, I think I will leave the sequence of the post-Jedha scene as-is. I’ll remove Cassian’s pre-instructions about killing Galen Erso, though, as I think that’s a fairly elegant change that works well.

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Let’s get to the super-nerd levels of pickiness… should Vader’s chest buttons be lit in the hallway slaughter scene? And, should his red eye lenses be toned down some?

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No, and no IMHO. Artistic license to the former, and super-nerd levels of pickiness to the second. 😛

Also, DigMod, would you mind posting a clip of your version of the “I am the pilot” exchange?

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Hal 9000 said:

DigMod, would you mind posting a clip of your version of the “I am the pilot” exchange?

Sure thing, I’ll render up a copy as soon as the little rogue squadron is lights out.

As for the lenses, I do tone down the red lenses extensively throughout, but the hallway scene is left untouched in regards to the red eyes and lights.

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Here’s how I approached that scene: https://youtu.be/z2nOB8i6OQo
Due to Bodhi’s weird noises it required a surround track rebuild. I dropped out all of the soundtrack right after the first messenger motif plays. At that point I matched the volume for each track using the Stardust track from the FYC soundtrack. I placed Cassian’s lines on a separate center track and adjusted the length to have the low cellos come in at the right time so that it didn’t clash with the music. Sharing all of that incase you were planning to do that edit on your timeline. I personally like to see if I can replicate scenes to better understand the process. I can also share a higher quality audio file that you can match up with the video if you’d like. 😃

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Thanks, I couldn’t seem to find a good edit point but now I see what you did there.

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You did a great job on that section DigMod, in context to the removal of the Bors Gullet scene it works so well.

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Hal 9000 said:

As cool as the idea is, I think I will leave the sequence of the post-Jedha scene as-is. I’ll remove Cassian’s pre-instructions about killing Galen Erso, though, as I think that’s a fairly elegant change that works well.

This is the way, best to try and keep as close to the original were possible.

Darth Muffy said:

Noticed a line which might be worth removing @ 1:32:03 when the rebels are attacking Scarif and Krennic tells an officer to lock the base down the officer replies surpised and asks “and close the shield?” well er… Yeah 😑

was you able to check that line out Hal?

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Actually, yes. I found it made for a slightly abrupt end of the scene. I don’t mind the line anyway, as it reinforces the idea of the shield gate being closed as a big deal, so I don’t think it’s worth it.

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I am ok with that line since it really reinforces the … incompetence? … or “lazy-ness” of those officers at such a secured and “lofty” assignment. Heck, you see how everyone just stopped and watched the explosions and were dumbstruck.

Anyway, I think Hal will need to change the title of this thread to "Hals Rogue One edit(a 3/4 Assed Version of Digmod’s)

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lol, yeah, it’s like they’re like “Oh uh an attack? Gee, I have to get up off my ASS?”

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Y’know, I think I will leave the “I’m the pilot” scene alone. I wouldn’t have picked up on it without this sort of close reading, but I like the juxtaposition of “I brought the message” with the leitmotif that is very similar to Leia’s message in ANH.

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As in leave it all alone despite removing the bors gullet scene?

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Yeah. It still reads like he’s been mistreated or tortured. It’s our introduction to him, and he’s been in the custody of a man we’re told is an extremist and proven to be paranoid.

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Thats how I read it when they meet the pilot simply as a mistreated prisoner so that scene still works unaltered.

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It’s a start.

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I’ll take any feedback … I just gotta have that good ole scream in every star wars film. Granted it is not an episodic movie … but it’s star wars! ha!

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I meant there should be many more.

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