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Originally posted by: TR47
HD DVD and/or Blu-ray will exist in the near future, if only for this one reason:
The movie companies will NOT hesitate to take advantage of an opportunity to sell you the same product all over again!
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
DVD is good enough for me.
My TV isn't digital anyway. Commonfolk like me won't see a need to upgrade at all.
“You know, when you think about it, the Ewoks probably just crap over the sides of their tree-huts.”
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
Personally, it will be quite some time until I invest in new player for these formats. I already have quite a bit put into my DVD collection. I'll get a few titles that would be worth it, such as Lawrence of Arabia, Star Wars, titles that would actually be an improvement. DVD is a spectacular format and I see no reason to dump it all for a new format that will soon be obsolete in another 5-10 years.
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
Not really. I just think it's the greatest film ever made.
It really is a spectacular film, and I'm sure I love it also because I'm half Arab (my father was born and raised in Lebanon). The acting is fantastic (O'Toole is a marvelous actor) the battle scenes are exciting, and every frame looks like it's a painting. Not to mention the amazing picture quality and color rendition that comes from 70mm filmstock. 70mm blows everything else out of the water. Not even HD can come close to it.
Interestlingly enough, even though it's almost 4 hours long, there's not a single female speaking role.
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
To comment on the codecs, Blu-Ray will support MPEG-4 as well as VC-9 too. It also features encryption, something that HD-DVD will probably not have, thus making executives prefer it over HD-DVD.
As for release dates... Blu-Ray is already out in Japan. It will be in the US in either late 2005, or 2006, though players are annoucned for August of 2005. Don't expect to see HD-DVD titles out until 2006 at the earliest. And it will still be a number of years before they start becoming as afforable as DVD.
And enough of the crap about HD-DVD being so cheap to produce. The encoding process is completely different, regardless of the manufacturing process.
Don't underestimate people's stupidity. There will be plenty of announcements on Blu-Ray. No one knew was DVD was, but that didn't stop it, did it?
Personally, it will be quite some time until I invest in new player for these formats. I already have quite a bit put into my DVD collection. I'll get a few titles that would be worth it, such as Lawrence of Arabia, Star Wars, titles that would actually be an improvement. DVD is a spectacular format and I see no reason to dump it all for a new format that will soon be obsolete in another 5-10 years.
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
To comment on the codecs, Blu-Ray will support MPEG-4 as well as VC-9 too. It also features encryption, something that HD-DVD will probably not have, thus making executives prefer it over HD-DVD.
As for release dates... Blu-Ray is already out in Japan. It will be in the US in either late 2005, or 2006, though players are annoucned for August of 2005. Don't expect to see HD-DVD titles out until 2006 at the earliest. And it will still be a number of years before they start becoming as afforable as DVD.
And enough of the crap about HD-DVD being so cheap to produce. The encoding process is completely different, regardless of the manufacturing process.
Don't underestimate people's stupidity. There will be plenty of announcements on Blu-Ray. No one knew was DVD was, but that didn't stop it, did it?
Personally, it will be quite some time until I invest in new player for these formats. I already have quite a bit put into my DVD collection. I'll get a few titles that would be worth it, such as Lawrence of Arabia, Star Wars, titles that would actually be an improvement. DVD is a spectacular format and I see no reason to dump it all for a new format that will soon be obsolete in another 5-10 years.
The Blu-Ray association is considering better codecs but as of now Blu-Ray only has MPEG-2 as the standard. Read the article link HD-DVD will have prerecorded media before Blu-Ray. When Sony officially announces Blu-Ray will use a better codec I will probably change my mind. As of now I am all for HD-DVD.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
HD-DVD will be out in early 2005 in Japan and Late 2005 in America. Thats a six month head start to Blu-Ray.Quote
It's already behind Blu-Ray. Can't you read? I found no mention of HD-DVD's release in the the states. In fact, it said no mention of what part of 2005 it was being released in Japan.Quote
MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 are not video standards just compression standards.
What's your point?Quote
MPEG-4 can hold 6x the picture quality at only twice the bit rate. 3x as much information into the space. With that the lower capacity HD-DVD holds 30% more information.
It depends entirely upon the compressionist. If you have good people, you can good equal results with either codec.Quote
As of now with HD-DVD officially backing these better codecs and Blu-Ray currently not I am all for HD-DVD.
Have fun. Are you planning on replacing your entire DVD collection?
And you do all realize that simply because the resolution is higher it doesn't necessarily make it better. Take D-VHS' T2 for example. It is no better than the DVD version. It's actually worse because all the resolution does is expose more print flaws.
Don't look for older movies on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray... they will most likely look worse.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
D-VHS as good as DVD what are you smoking. I have compared D-VHS and DVD of Independence Day. There is no comparison. The D-VHS is so so so much better. I was absolutly blown away by D-VHS. Unfortunitly I don't own a D-VCR myself because lets face it. Higher quality or not its still a tape. I have invested alot in replacing tapes with discs and will not go backwards no matter how good it looks. And it looks fucking amazing. Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray promise resolution higher then D-VHS and with all the convience a the disc format offers. Read this article HD-DVD will be out in America before the ball drops for 2006. Blu-Ray will not. Each format has one format that has commited to it. Blu-Ray has Columbia Tristar. HD-DVD has Poly Cannon (Japanese studio). Though Warner has not yet commited Warner owns stocks in current DVD technolgy which HD-DVD is an extension of. If HD-DVD wins Warner makes alot of money. So if you don't think Warner will release titles on HD-DVD soon I don't know what your smoking. New Line is also a Time Warner studio. Both Sony and Warner are trying to buy MGM and as of now Warner has the better offer. Disney, Universal, Fox, and Artisan all appear to be showing more intrest in HD-DVD then Blu-Ray at the momment as well. Disney voted for HD-DVD in the forum and basically whichever format Disney supports will be the format that most familys will support.
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
Why will Blu-Ray suck with MPEG-2? Tests have shown that there is no drop in picture quality, and there are problems with the codecs HD-DVD is using.
This isn't a one-track thing.
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