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yeah i agree, the books get a lot darker for sure. but its a fantasy series what do you expect? its not full of fairies and princesses and maybe young kids shouldn't be reading it, nor should the parents be reading it TO the kids who can't read... :S
i know that i wouldn't take my child to see the 4th movie if they were under 10. in fact when i went to see it, this 16 year old (or so) girl was jumping out of her seat like every time min and shaking the entire row.. GET A GRIP. anyways.. i have to finish my paper for my bio class.

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I'm following the same rule I did with PoA: My older two children (8 and almost 11) have both read the book at least twice with no ill effects, so they can see the film. My youngest (almost 6) is not ready for it yet.

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Was it just me or did Voldemort look like a mix of Gen. Grevios and Golem?
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I'm following the same rule I did with PoA: My older two children (8 and almost 11) have both read the book at least twice with no ill effects, so they can see the film. My youngest (almost 6) is not ready for it yet.


MY KIDS WILL NOT BE SEEING IT FOR A WHILE.

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And I agree with you completely on that, DAYV, knowing how old your kids are.

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I agree with Rebel Scumb. I myself am not religious, but was brought up Catholic (I think, always get that confused). Anyway, I want to quote Footlose, don't remember it exactly, but the Reverend says that "The Devil is not in the books but inside of us." Now that is not exactly how he said it but what he was saying during the scene where people were burning books. This whole arguement reminds me of the Christians boycotting stores for not saying Merry Christmas. I feel that religions tend to be hypicritcal (however that's spelled). There are so many problems with religions but this is not for this thread. This also reminds me of violence from video games. I feel if a child cannot tell the difference between reality and fiction they shouldn't be allowed to play a game. Same concept for books, except they shouldn't be allowed to read the book.

Anyway, as not to get off the movie, I really liked this movie. I think that it's the best movie yet and it was really well done. Gaffer Tape, I find it cute that you cried . I also think you're a real man for admitting it. I agree with you about that part. In the book it definitely gave me the chills and I felt my throat tighten up. Never cried but I feel it was even more powerful in the movie. I'm definitely going to be getting this when it comes out on DVD, which the way stuff seems to be going will probably be by summer next year. Is it me or do movies seem to hit DVD really quickly after they are out of the theatres? Anyway, I definitely reccommend the movie and if you can definitely read the books as they do have more depth.

The only complaint that I have about the movies, and it's not just these movies, but all movies based on books. WIth a book you need to use your imagination cause there aren't pictures. I feel that after watching these movies I am having a hard time creating the characters in my mind as when I first started reading the books. Is anybody else like this? Just curious.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
What's the deal with the trendy long haircuts? I mean, if you had ginger hair like Ron, wouldn't you wnat to shave it off, not grow more of it? Th erason I am moaning is becaue I have long hair, and I had it when it wasn't so cool, and now iot is cool again I look like a trend follower, when you all know I'm a setter.

The Catcher in The Rye is one of my favourite books, BTW.


The reason for the long hair is because that is the 'mark' of the Weasley's. They are known for having shaggy long hair and poor, second-hand clothes and stuff. I'm growing my hair out again, had it down to my shoulders last December ('04) then decided to shave it off, I have no Idea what I was thinking. I can honestly say, even if know one believes me, which I don't care , that I'm growing my hair out because I want to and not to follow a trend.

I know that had absolutely no bearing on this thread, at least that part of me , but I just wanted to say it. Also, DAVY, how old are your kids? Just curious.

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I saw this last month and came away largely satisfied. Most of what was cut from the book was worked out quite well. But there were a few too many cuts which made it feel quite rushed in a couple of places. Specifically:

1) Fleur and Viktor had NO lines. I'm blown away that these two major characters were so shortchanged.

2) We should have actually SEEN the Quidditch world championship. Given that it's the only Quidditch in the story, and it's supposed to be the greatest game of Quidditch ever witnessed in the seven year story arc (we don't even see the game in Book 5, we only hear about it) this was necessary ... especially for the development of Krum's character.

3) Something seemed missing between Harry & Snape's run-in in the potion storeroom and the final task.

4) And lastly, I really wanted to see the scene where Harry gives his prize winnings to Fred and George. It added some levity to such a heavy ending, and it gave one last dig at Ron's dress robes, which were funnier on film than they were in the book. Plus, it sets up their glorious finale in Book 5. And if THAT gets cut, I'll lodge a protest.

So all in all a good movie, just a bit rushed, mainly because of these bits. For all the attention they gave to the Yule ball, these were some areas that were shortchanged. Haven't moviegoers proven they're willing to sit through abnormally good films, so long as the quality is good?

Book 5 can afford so much more to be cut. For such a long book, it had the most expendable material of all.

What I wish they'd do is what Peter Jackson did. Film the whole thing, figure out what to remove for the theatrical cut, then release both the theatrical cut and the extended cut to DVD. Then I wouldn't have so much work to do. :-)
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I saw this last month and came away largely satisfied. Most of what was cut from the book was worked out quite well. But there were a few too many cuts which made it feel quite rushed in a couple of places. Specifically:

1) Fleur and Viktor had NO lines. I'm blown away that these two major characters were so shortchanged.

2) We should have actually SEEN the Quidditch world championship. Given that it's the only Quidditch in the story, and it's supposed to be the greatest game of Quidditch ever witnessed in the seven year story arc (we don't even see the game in Book 5, we only hear about it) this was necessary ... especially for the development of Krum's character.

3) Something seemed missing between Harry & Snape's run-in in the potion storeroom and the final task.

4) And lastly, I really wanted to see the scene where Harry gives his prize winnings to Fred and George. It added some levity to such a heavy ending, and it gave one last dig at Ron's dress robes, which were funnier on film than they were in the book. Plus, it sets up their glorious finale in Book 5. And if THAT gets cut, I'll lodge a protest.

So all in all a good movie, just a bit rushed, mainly because of these bits. For all the attention they gave to the Yule ball, these were some areas that were shortchanged. Haven't moviegoers proven they're willing to sit through abnormally good films, so long as the quality is good?

Book 5 can afford so much more to be cut. For such a long book, it had the most expendable material of all.

What I wish they'd do is what Peter Jackson did. Film the whole thing, figure out what to remove for the theatrical cut, then release both the theatrical cut and the extended cut to DVD. Then I wouldn't have so much work to do. :-)


Hey, aren't you the one (of many) that does fan edits? And didn't you do something with the first and/or second Harry Potter films. I think you talk with my brother, Darth Simon. Back to my point....if you are the one that did those, which I think really just consisted of putting the deleted scenes back in, would you do one for the third and fourth movie (when the latter comes out of course)?

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You betcha. Third has been done (your brother should have it). Fourth will certainly be done if they release usable material on the DVD in April.
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Any news on deleted scenes?
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
MY OFFICIAL SOURCES ARE SAYING THAT HP4 COULD BE OUT ON DVD AS EARLY AS MARCH.


That's insane. Is it me or are movies coming to DVD much faster than they use to? There is one movie that came out on DVD and I thought that it was just came out in the theatres, Roller Bounce. ADM, I haven't actually watched your versions of the Harry Potter, need to get them from my brother, probalby Christmas since he lives in MD & I live in NJ. I'll be looking forward to your version of The Goblet Of Fire. DAVY, thanks for giving us a heads up on an approximation of when the DVD will come out. As ADM asked, do you know anything about the deleted scenes and/or possible special features. Might be a little early to find out, but doesn't hurt to ask.

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Yeah, the home market is much faster than it used to be, and that's simply because they start working on the DVDs before the movie is even released in theatres, sometimes while the movie is still in production. I was watching The Incredibles with commentary on, and they made some comment about having no idea how this movie was going to do, and I was totally floored that they'd go to all this trouble to make a DVD before they even knew if it was profitable. Now I understand that the real market really is in the DVD sales rather than the theatrical release.

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OK, I saw this last night. I have seen all the movies and read none of the books, although I intend to now, before the 5th Potter movie comes out. As a casual Potter movie watcher rather than a seasoned fan of the books, I can confirm that much of the deeper plot points were lost on me, and I sometimes have a hard time keeping up with who is who, but that doesn't stop me enjoying the movie, so I guess these films are perfect in that they satisfy the fans and the casual viewer. As for the effects...Fantastic. I actually used to work for Framestore, who done a lot of the CGI for this movie, and I had the script and storyboards for this fourth film before the third was evn in theatres, and I was mighty, mighty impressed by what I saw last night. I don't know what it was, but even though I was looking at dragons and ghosts and flying horses, it looked somehow believable, and it dicked all over the effects in Star Wars 3. The moment when I most thought to myself 'shit, these effects rock' was when the dragon was chasing Harry and trying to get to him on the rooftop, knocking off tiles and breaking bricks.

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The actress who will play Luna Lovegood will be chosen in within a month!
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I'm so glad they aren't cutting her character. There was actual talk of that. How awful that would be.
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I'm certainly glad they aren't! I'd never heard that rumor before, but she was one of my favorite characters in that book! Phew. Bill and Charlie Weasley I can live without, but not Looney Lovegood!

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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By the way, for those of you who don't know, the guy who played Barty Crouch Jr, David Tenant, is the new Doctor Who.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
By the way, for those of you who don't know, the guy who played Barty Crouch Jr, David Tenant, is the new Doctor Who.


Probably I should ask in another thread but here goes... I haven't seen the new Who series but am a fan of the Dr.

How is Tenant in the role and the series in general so far?
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So far he has only been in one episode for about 30 seconds after regenerating. Tennant's first full episode airs in England on Christmas day, followed by a full series in the new year, but I have seen Tennant in lots of other roles and I like him. I think he will be a good Doctor.

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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I saw this last month and came away largely satisfied. Most of what was cut from the book was worked out quite well. But there were a few too many cuts which made it feel quite rushed in a couple of places. Specifically:

1) Fleur and Viktor had NO lines. I'm blown away that these two major characters were so shortchanged.


I didn't really notice this, but now you mention it is a bit weird.


2) We should have actually SEEN the Quidditch world championship. Given that it's the only Quidditch in the story, and it's supposed to be the greatest game of Quidditch ever witnessed in the seven year story arc (we don't even see the game in Book 5, we only hear about it) this was necessary ... especially for the development of Krum's character.


this was one of the biggest disappointments to me, the build up was great and then it just cut the whole match, especially annoying when the press was syaing 'the story has been cut down to make room for set pieces like the quidditch world cup and the triwizard tournament' and then we don't even see the match.


3) Something seemed missing between Harry & Snape's run-in in the potion storeroom and the final task.


I didn't notice, but the whole film jumped forward a lot so I felt that way a few times.


4) And lastly, I really wanted to see the scene where Harry gives his prize winnings to Fred and George. It added some levity to such a heavy ending, and it gave one last dig at Ron's dress robes, which were funnier on film than they were in the book. Plus, it sets up their glorious finale in Book 5. And if THAT gets cut, I'll lodge a protest.


a fair point but I did quite like the feeling of the ending.


So all in all a good movie, just a bit rushed, mainly because of these bits. For all the attention they gave to the Yule ball, these were some areas that were shortchanged. Haven't moviegoers proven they're willing to sit through abnormally good films, so long as the quality is good?

Book 5 can afford so much more to be cut. For such a long book, it had the most expendable material of all.


both good points


What I wish they'd do is what Peter Jackson did. Film the whole thing, figure out what to remove for the theatrical cut, then release both the theatrical cut and the extended cut to DVD. Then I wouldn't have so much work to do. :-)


My biggest problem is that you see barty crouch jr. in the first scene, and so there is never really any mystery as to who is doing things just how he is doing it, it would have been better if the first time you clearly saw him was in the pensive, he could have been in the shadows or just a voice before that, I'm already planning an edit but I'll have to wait and see what the dvd gives us, (and I still need to finish my azkaban edit).

the rumour is that at the US premiere Mike Newell (director) said he would probably put back ~15min for the DVD, so I'm hopeful, I know there was a lot cut, there was stuff shot with ron's owl Pigwidgeon, and i've seen other clips that didn't feature in the final cut. we'll just have to wait and see, but the film could have done with being at least 40min longer.
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Actually, I believe Krum had a line or two. Something like "Please write to me" or something towards the end when he says goodbye to Hermione.

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