DoomBot said:
Once the w64 is muxed it makes no difference, It's PCM just like a wav file no difference. Not sure why DJ has such a problem with this file format, won't sound any different.
If you are familiar with micromanagement the answer will be clear.
I wanted to make a DTS-HD MA file out of it, but the encoder didn't like W64. No worries, tsmuxer does and it muxed perfectly.
I'm also no expert , but sync seems fine to me.
I thank you both. The work done here trounces Anchor Bay's pathetic attempt.
“Alright twinkle-toes, what’s your exit strategy?”
Can't mux with mkvtoolnix, doesn't like the file. Tried tsmuxer but did not like my mkv movie file.
Whats the best way to convert w64 to a more compatible format, if that's possible?
@ borisanddoris
Use eac3to and make .wavs with it then make your DTS file.
What encoder were you using?
DoomBot said:
Sorry i ever volunteered to work on this file, i was just trying to be nice and help out.
I'm grateful for the work you've done here.
stretch009 said:
DoomBot said:
Sorry i ever volunteered to work on this file, i was just trying to be nice and help out.
I'm grateful for the work you've done here.
Thanks stretch009
NeonBible said:
Can't mux with mkvtoolnix, doesn't like the file. Tried tsmuxer but did not like my mkv movie file.
Whats the best way to convert w64 to a more compatible format, if that's possible?
I didn't think about people wanting to make a mkv.
Yeah a w64 won't work with mkvtoolnix.
Guess i really should have just made a wav file instead.
So how many here would prefer a wav file be uploaded?
I know we have DJs vote already
DoomBot said:
NeonBible said:
Can't mux with mkvtoolnix, doesn't like the file. Tried tsmuxer but did not like my mkv movie file.
Whats the best way to convert w64 to a more compatible format, if that's possible?
I didn't think about people wanting to make a mkv.
Yeah a w64 won't work with mkvtoolnix.
Guess i really should have just made a wav file instead.
So how many here would prefer a wav file be uploaded?
I know we have DJs vote already
I was wrong lol to mention this right form the very start via PM? unbelievable.
You just love to rub it in, don't you DJ?
I know it may not be my place, but if you all are going to have a disagreement, perhaps go private? I'd hate for this thread to get sidetracked to the point where someone gets them self banned or blocked.
Both your work is too good to let something little like this get in the way. This isn't reddit, it's OT.com. Aren't we better than that?
“Alright twinkle-toes, what’s your exit strategy?”
Although people could still convert the w64 to wav very easily.
If i upload it, it's just me trying to be a nice guy.
Your right borisanddoris, so it ends here.
It's just that a certain person here makes it so very easy.
I apologize for the bickering, so lets get back to loving movies.
DoomBot said:
NeonBible said:
Can't mux with mkvtoolnix, doesn't like the file. Tried tsmuxer but did not like my mkv movie file.
Whats the best way to convert w64 to a more compatible format, if that's possible?
I didn't think about people wanting to make a mkv.
Yeah a w64 won't work with mkvtoolnix.
Guess i really should have just made a wav file instead.
So how many here would prefer a wav file be uploaded?
I know we have DJs vote already
Converted it to wav using eac3to
eac3to file.w64 file.wav
..all that's needed. Remuxed with mkvtooknix, happy days!
Had a quick test and I do notice a slight delay with the track. I was repeating the same scene over and over switching between the audio track. I think it would only be noticeable if you're really looking for it though! It's only slight and I found by adding a delay of +250ms in VLC, it works out well. I have no problem with adding the delay myself within mkvtoolnix, although I'm worried if some players will ignore the flag.
Thanks to DJ and DB though for getting this out to us. Really appreciate the work.
Converting w64 to wav is easy.
eac3to input.w64 output.wav
Other people upload as flac, which requires a similar, one-step conversion before you can author a disc. I think what DoomBot did was fine.
EDIT: NeonBible, if you're worried about the delay, you can use Eac3to to add that too.
Thanks Chewy. I'll have to try that if it is a permanent change rather than just a timecode flag.
Now is +250ms the right delay I should be setting? I just pulled that number out the air and seems to work out ok. But is there an exact science to getting the right sync? Is the only way to play them side by side and figure it out from there?
dts-hd encoder needs mono wavs. so it doesn't matter if your source is w64, wav or flac, you have to extract them from your source anyway ;)
NeonBible said:But is there an exact science to getting the right sync?
If you don't have a track to use as a guide, you'll have to make your best guess or wait for DoomBot to make changes if it is indeed out of sync. (I'm not the best person to ask because I sync using the method that zeropc explained above.) 250ms is between five and six frames, which is usually quite noticeable.
I can usually drop a stereo .wav file into the DTS encoder and create a 2.0 mono track. For a 1 channel mono, yes, you'd definitely need mono .wav files.
“Alright twinkle-toes, what’s your exit strategy?”
ha... you always learn something new :D
i just tried it and it works. thanks borisanddoris :)
Well one thing I didn't mention is that I didn't rip the BD myself (no BD drive!), so that is a biggie. I guess it's more likely that my rip is not perfect. I trust you guys over myself when it comes to this tbh lol.
NeonBible said:
Thanks Chewy. I'll have to try that if it is a permanent change rather than just a timecode flag.
Now is +250ms the right delay I should be setting? I just pulled that number out the air and seems to work out ok. But is there an exact science to getting the right sync? Is the only way to play them side by side and figure it out from there?
I just checked the mkv I made again. Yes +250 or perhaps +200 seems to sync things up again for me in the scenes I mentioned. Although with this delay, when I watch the scene where Laurie is sat in class and answers her teacher, lip sync appears to be off whereas it seems ok with no added delay.
For clarification; I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with the audio track, clearly several people have it sync'd with no issues. Perhaps there's something amiss with the method I used: Convert w64 to wav using dBPoweramp, mux wav with video using mkvtoolnix.
George creates Star Wars.
Star Wars creates fans.
George destroys Star Wars.
Fans destroy George.
Fans create Star Wars.
Muxed this audio and the new commentary to a custom 30mbps video I made from the 35th Blu with improved color saturation and better skin tones. Burned to a BD25. Very happy. Thanks to all involved! (Still need to watch fully but I don't tend to be too sensitive to sync'ness).
So you guys with sync problems, what player are you using to watch this? watching on my computer i use Splash player or media player classic. In my room or theater it's openelec xbmc.
Thanks for the feed back though on the audio guys.
DoomBot said:
So you guys with sync problems, what player are you using to watch this? I watch it if it's the computer using Splash player. In my room or theater it's openelec xbmc.
Thanks for the feed back though on the audio.
Ya know, I had a similar thought and you beat me to it. It seems that folks who burned it weren't having issues but those making files to watch on a pc were. Guess that's how you came to this question?
LOL