Guardians of the Galaxy discussion thread — Page 11

Ryan McAvoy said:

kk650 said:

I recently created an IMAX version of Guardians of the Galaxy that has the changing left sidebar cropped on a shot by shot basis

How did you deal with the randomly shifting vertical aspect that that would create?

The top and bottom were cropped equally by the necessary amount shot by shot to maintain the height to width ratio of the shot, so no vertical/ horizontal stretching at any time.

You can see what I mean about the cropped top and bottom in these screencap comparisons (its easier to see when you view the screencaps in original size):

Blu-ray 1:



Regraded IMAX 1:



Blu-ray 2:



Regraded IMAX 2:



Blu-ray 3:



Regraded IMAX 3:



Blu-ray 4:



Regraded IMAX 4:



Blu-ray 5:



Regraded IMAX 5:

If anybody is interested in me uploading this release to myspleen, let me know.

Tobar said:

So anyway, that podcast got me all fired up to watch all of the making of stuff on the blu-ray. WHAT A TEASE THAT STUFF IS. Gunn talks about some awesome cut stuff in that podcast but none of it is included in the deleted scenes or seen anywhere in the bonus features. There's so much material they held back and I WANT IT NOW!

 Well the Phase 1 Boxset had an extra 27 minutes of deleted scenes, 88 minutes of animatics, and 65 minutes of pre-vis, which all adds up to 3 hours of unseen content right there.

So I have sneaking suspicion, much of that other cut material will end up on the Phase 2 Boxset.

I waited to purchase the phase 1 Boxset, and will be doing the same for each and every upcoming movie phase, which is hard considering that GOTG is just such a fun movie.

kk650 said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

kk650 said:

I recently created an IMAX version of Guardians of the Galaxy that has the changing left sidebar cropped on a shot by shot basis

How did you deal with the randomly shifting vertical aspect that that would create?

The top and bottom were cropped equally by the necessary amount shot by shot to maintain the height to width ratio of the shot, so no vertical/ horizontal stretching at any time.

You can see what I mean about the cropped top and bottom in these screencap comparisons (its easier to see when you view the screencaps in original size):

Blu-ray 1:



Regraded IMAX 1:



Blu-ray 2:



Regraded IMAX 2:



Blu-ray 3:



Regraded IMAX 3:



Blu-ray 4:



Regraded IMAX 4:



Blu-ray 5:



Regraded IMAX 5:

If anybody is interested in me uploading this release to myspleen, let me know.

 Please do, that looks so much better then the Bluray I got for Christmas.

Ryan McAvoy said:

^ Thanks, Awesome job... although a simple "I cropped them" would have sufficed ;-)

But I more meant the standard 2:35:1 shots (For the iMAX shots, cropping is the only option). You must have had to crop them quite a bit? Compared to the original uncropped 2:35:1 shots from the 2D transfer.

I was contemplating something similar on a GOTG project I'm working on. I couldn't decide if I should just leave the frames at the aspect-ratio they are presented at (But enlarged to 1920 or 1280 width), or enlarge and then crop them for uniformitty like you have.

haha some things are just easier to explain by showing I think. :)

Yes the standard 2:35:1 shots have been cropped as well in exactly the same way on the top and bottom by the exact amount required on a shot by shot basis to maintain the 2:35:1 aspect ratio. Like the imax screencaps above its only a minimal amount on the top and bottom that needs to be cropped to maintain the correct ratio, what's more important IMHO is that the top and bottom are cropped equally to maintain composition element positions as much as possible.

Well if you want to crop that changing left sidebar you definately need to crop the top and bottom as well to maintain the ratio of the frame IMHO, otherwise with each different shot requiring a different amount of cropping on the left side, each shot will be getting stretched by a different amount, which I imagine could be pretty jarring watching the shots in quick succession, body/face proportions will be changing all the time.

If you do decide to crop it yourself I should warn you that it'll be a hell of a lot of work. Creating this IMAX release took me many many hours last month, looking back with hindsight, I wonder whether i'd have done it at all if I had known how much work it was going to take, how many hours of my free time it was going to use up. I recommend you just watch my release and save yourself the crazy hours of work required to put this together.

DrCrowTStarwars said:

kk650 said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

kk650 said:

I recently created an IMAX version of Guardians of the Galaxy that has the changing left sidebar cropped on a shot by shot basis

How did you deal with the randomly shifting vertical aspect that that would create?

The top and bottom were cropped equally by the necessary amount shot by shot to maintain the height to width ratio of the shot, so no vertical/ horizontal stretching at any time.

You can see what I mean about the cropped top and bottom in these screencap comparisons (its easier to see when you view the screencaps in original size):

Blu-ray 1:



Regraded IMAX 1:



Blu-ray 2:



Regraded IMAX 2:



Blu-ray 3:



Regraded IMAX 3:



Blu-ray 4:



Regraded IMAX 4:



Blu-ray 5:



Regraded IMAX 5:

If anybody is interested in me uploading this release to myspleen, let me know.

 Please do, that looks so much better then the Bluray I got for Christmas.

Thanks! I think I will because it took a long time to create so it would be a waste for it not to be available to as many people as possible. I imagine others have thought about doing exactly the same thing so if they see that its already been done, they won't have to spend all those mindnumbing hours replicating exactly the same work.

Well thanks, this is great.  Thanks for stepping up and doing the work.

Ryan McAvoy said:

p.s. Can we all perhaps not re-re-re-quote large image posts?

 Now you're just being unreasonable.

Ryan McAvoy said:

kk650 said:

Well if you want to crop that changing left sidebar you definately need to crop the top and bottom... each shot will be getting stretched by a different amount

No, you could crop the black on the left but still maintain the ratio. Some shots would be "taller" than others is all.

But, the best way to maintain visual information would be to colour-grade/fix the 2D blu-Ray (If possible), and just add the iMAX shots in where needed. Then the maximum ammount of the film shot would be on the screen. Plus this would of course be a billion times easier (Again, if it's possible to get the grade right).

btw: Anybody know why the black bar is on the left?

p.s. Can we all perhaps not re-re-re-quote large image posts? I sense a certain building and bunny rabit making an appearance if it doesn't stop. Thanks.

Yeah of course that would be the easiest thing to do but having the size of the top and bottom black bar changing from shot to shot would be a very bad idea, it would be far more distracting than the changing left sidebar IMHO because it covers the whole width of the frame, I just assumed you wouldn't want to do that.

As for regrading the 2D release, that was my original plan, it would have saved the majority of the cropping work. Unfortunately I was not able to regrade it to match the colours/image dynamics of the 3D release closely enough for the 2D scenes to fit in seamlessly with the colour scheme of the 3D footage, the difference between the 2D amd 3D release colourwise and in terms of image dynamics is not consistent throughout the film.

As for the left sidebar, I have no idea. Somebody in my imax release thread posted this explanation:

'I saw it explained that the bars are there to account for inherent parallax of the 3D. You don't see it when watching it in 3D, because you have both eyes to compensate for it....It's the result of us trying to get something that was never intended by the studio. They opted to release the shifting aspect ratio on a 3D disc only.'

Yeah, sorry about that, the thought did cross my mind as I was quoting the post but I just got lazy and didn't want to start having to edit his post.

ElectricTriangle said:

kk650 said:

If anybody is interested in me uploading this release to myspleen, let me know.

 I don't think this would fly at Myspleen, it being big/new/commercially available/Disney material. All things that they disallow. I'm guessing this would be reported on there pretty fast. A different tracker or site would be better.

hmm, I thought that might be the case. Thanks for saving me the upload time. Those interested in this release can always find it on tehparadox.

Feallan said:

Hi kk650. Would a simple top/bottom crop of your release be accurate to what I've seen in a theater (2D 2:35.1)? I really hate shifting aspect ratios. :/

Hi Feallan, in terms of colour I believe so yes, the 2D release has a blanket green tint that I imagine wasn't there theatrically.

In terms of showing the whole width of the frame no, I imagine the 2D is more accurate because it doesn't have the left sidebar cropped at any time.

In terms of correct composition/framing of shots, I don't know, depends on if they always cropped the IMAX shots the same with each shot to get the framing of the 2:35.1 shots.

If I just wanted to watch the film in 2:35.1, i'd personally watch my regraded 2D guardians of the galaxy release to remove all doubt about the framing and enjoy the extra info on the left of the frame. Like the IMAX release it can also be found on tehparadox.

kk650 said:

ElectricTriangle said:

kk650 said:

If anybody is interested in me uploading this release to myspleen, let me know.

 I don't think this would fly at Myspleen, it being big/new/commercially available/Disney material. All things that they disallow. I'm guessing this would be reported on there pretty fast. A different tracker or site would be better.

hmm, I thought that might be the case. Thanks for saving me the upload time. Those interested in this release can always find it on tehparadox.

 Okay thanks a bunch, this is a huge help.

What do you call this release?  I want to search for it and download it.

Thanks again.

DrCrowTStarwars said:

kk650 said:

ElectricTriangle said:

kk650 said:

If anybody is interested in me uploading this release to myspleen, let me know.

 I don't think this would fly at Myspleen, it being big/new/commercially available/Disney material. All things that they disallow. I'm guessing this would be reported on there pretty fast. A different tracker or site would be better.

hmm, I thought that might be the case. Thanks for saving me the upload time. Those interested in this release can always find it on tehparadox.

 Okay thanks a bunch, this is a huge help.

What do you call this release?  I want to search for it and download it.

Thanks again.

Just search for 'kk650 guardians of the galaxy' without the speechmarks in the movies section of the tehparadox forum. The 20GB IMAX release is the one you want. I would recommend using the 1fichier links, they are much faster for free users.

Feallan said:

I downloaded your 2D regrade and made a quick comparison.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/108754

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/108755

I like the look of the IMAX version more, I'll probably watch that. :) Thank you for your work!

Yes I also prefer the look of the IMAX release, it's definately the version i'll be watching in future. :)

The 2D blu-ray does have more visible grain and overall detail than the 3D blu-ray though, that's one thing it has over it, though clearly the 3D blu-ray is much better in terms of colour.

Well here is a nice piece of news.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/chris-pratt-makes-good-on-super-bowl-bet-against-chris-evans-visits-kids-as-star-lord%E2%80%94see-the-pics/ar-AA94Jnj?ocid=ansEonline11

I seem to remember hearing a story about(I can't believe I am blanking on his name because I am a huge fan of his but that is the kind of week it has been)the guy who played Hellboy getting into full make up to visit a young cancer patient in the hospital.

It always makes me feel better when I hear stories like this coming out of Hollywood as opposed to ones about drunk driving or drugs.

Finally saw this.  i think you all oversold it.