I liked it up until he finds the kids and then stops being Max.
After that the film becomes a watered down version of Mad Max 2.
It's not that bad it's just nowhere near as good as it should have been.
FanFiltration said:
THE ORIGINAL "CLASSIC" ROCKY!
Hey Rocky - watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.
Again?
Nothing up my sleeve
*lion sticks it's head out and roars*
Guess I don't know my own strength.
Great stuff, man.
Does anyone like Thunderdome? NO!
This is the movie that ruined the character, and effetively ended the series.
In other words like the prequels and Indy IV..it never happened.....it remains only in our memories.....
VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.
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FanFiltration said:
THE ORIGINAL "CLASSIC" ROCKY!
That's more like it!
VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.
“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford
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Indy IV? there was no Indy IV. There are only 3 Indy movies.
Warbler said:
Indy IV? there was no Indy IV. There are only 3 Indy movies.
Couldn't agree with you more. Indy, Marcus, Henry Sr., and Sallah riding into the sunset was a great end to a great series.
Nothing can top that as an ending.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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I personally think this is the best ending of the Indiana Jones film series (everything else was half baked and substandard) :
captainsolo said:
and how can you not like Batman Returns?
Holy shit! Did he just list Batman Returns alongside Lawrence of Arabia, Citizen Kane, and Blade Runner? I think I am going to be sick...
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
Well, I still echo the question "how can you not like Batman Returns?" Might be my favorite Batman film.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Batman Returns is my least favourite. It's sort of too serious for a silly take on Batman and too silly for a serious take on Batman. The Shumacher films are mostly worthless, but they're consistent.
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xhonzi said:
It's sort of too serious for a silly take on Batman and too silly for a serious take on Batman.
Goldilocks would say that it was just right.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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xhonzi said:
Batman Returns is my least favourite. It's sort of too serious for a silly take on Batman and too silly for a serious take on Batman. The Shumacher films are mostly worthless, but they're consistent.
Two words: Christopher. Walken. All of your arguments are therefore invalid.
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xhonzi said:
It's sort of too serious for a silly take on Batman and too silly for a serious take on Batman.
Yes! Couldn't have put it any better myself. It is really dark and thinks it is taking itself seriously like the first one, but it is extremely goofy. And I absolutely can't stand their take on the Pinguin... some disgusting dirty freak who lives under ground and digs through peoples trash. That would be almost as bad as a Superman movie that decides to reinvent Lex Luther as some crazy homeless guy with a head full of shaggy hair.
I can't say it is my least favorite Batman movie, because I think I hate all the sequels to the '89 film the same, it was definitely the begining of the end for the poor series (not that I ever felt Tim Burton's Batman was anything really special to begin with, though no where near as bad as its sequels).
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
Well, I just got the Ultimate Batman Collection DVD set, and watching all the features on it really gave me new insight and appreciation for all four of those movies... yes, even to Batman & Robin.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Gaffer Tape said:
yes, even to Batman & Robin.
Gaffer my old friend, you are dead to me!
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
Is... this a hint as to your next review?
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
Hmm, not sure. I still haven't done the '43 Batman serial yet. But I've had ideas. Big, honkin' ones!
As for Batman & Robin, I just liked Schumacher's quote that he certainly didn't mean to upset anyone with the movie. His only motivation was to entertain. And it really did sound heartfelt and meaningful. And, really, I've always found the movie entertaining enough... well, actually, one of my big honkin' ideas was to actually do the reverse of most Batman & Robin reviews and do a review of things I actually liked about that film because, while a lot of it was a bit piece of garbage, there were certain elements that I thought were really good and could have been taken in good directions.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
George Clooney as Batman could have been the best thing ever. Unfortunately, it wasn't.
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
the problem with Batman & Robin was that it just doesn't belong in the same series as the first movie. The first movie was a very serious, dark take on Batman. Batman & Robin more closely resembled the 60's series. Batman Returns is terrible. Catwoman and the Penguin are my lest favorite Batman villains. It, as well, is too silly to be part of a series with the first film. I think the one I hate the most is Batman Forever, and I'll tell you why. From the first movie up to Forever, they showed you the back story of Batman, The Joker, Catwoman, the Penguin, and in Forever they did so with the Riddler and Robin. But when they had a character who had such an interesting back story as Two-Face, what do they do? No back story! The film begins and there is two-face fighting Batman! It was like we missed the first 20 minutes of the movie. No Harvey Dent getting injured and having his face deformed and going nuts. Harvey just starts off as two face. This of course brings to mind the casting stupidity of the first movie. You can call me a racist if you want, but throughout the history of the comics as far as I know, Harvey Dent/Two-Face was white and in Batman they cast Billy Dee Williams, an African American, in the part of Harvey Dent. Maybe it shouldn't matter and maybe two-face could be played by an African American, but obviously the studio didn't think so. When it came time to do Forever, how come they didn't get Williams to play the role of Two-Face? One can only assume that the studio didn't think an African American would be right for Two-Face. So why hire one to play Dent in the first movie.? When they were making the first movie, did they think there was no possibility of sequels? If I am making a Batman movie and I'm going to have Harvey Dent in it, wouldn't it make sense for me to cast someone in the role who would make a good Two-Face just in case I wanted to have Two Face be a villain in a sequel? It would seem to make sense to me. That is kind of like casting a whiny brat as someone who is going to turn into one of the cool villains in movie history. oh wait . . .
Sorry for the run-on paragraph.
Warb, you raise a very good point I think. Also, I think Tommy Lee Jones was chosen over Williams due to the direction they chose for the movie.
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bkev said:
Warb, you raise a very good point I think. Also, I think Tommy Lee Jones was chosen over Williams due to the direction they chose for the movie.
Tommy Lee Jones was also big box office with recent hits like JFK,The Fugitive, and Natural Born Killers. Billy Dee on the other hand, was doing not much more then T.V. roles from 89-95. He just was not a big box office draw when Batman Forever was being made. It's all about the $$$.
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bkev said:
George Clooney as Batman could have been the best thing ever. Unfortunately, it wasn't.
The same with Val Kilmer. He is a damn good actor, but after Batman Forever his career is dead. Hopefully he will have comeback like Robert Downey Jr.s
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Gaffer Tape said:
Well, I just got the Ultimate Batman Collection DVD set, and watching all the features on it really gave me new insight and appreciation for all four of those movies... yes, even to Batman & Robin.
Was one of the features a tab of Acid?
War does not make one great.
When you see the bit with Bane you can at least blame it on the magic sweeties.
Warbler said:
...When it came time to do Forever, how come they didn't get Williams to play the role of Two-Face?
I think Williams is a considerably better version of Dent. Tommy Lee Jones played the character like a silly comic book character - which to me, Batman had moved away from (to an extent). Batman still had comic book touches alright, but it felt more reality-based. Which is saying something, considering it's a Tim Burton film.
I've always just assumed that since they had moved so far away from the 89 version at that point, they felt no need to worry about any sort of continuity. Which is just as well anyway. The Schumacher films are throw-aways. It would have been a wasted performance.
For the record; For me, Batman Returns was a one & done. To me, that's the film where Burton became the film maker he is today; Over-the-top-weirdness in place of interest. Style over substance. Needless to say, other than Pee Wee's Big Adventure & Batman - I'm not a fan of his work at all.
