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So your using the fact you live in the UK to shield your self from the rest of the world? Wow...pathetic..I'm pretty sure another terror attack would have happened in the UK if it weren't for the amazing Law Enforcement there. Everything apply in the UK that I said. Hell, because of people like you your entire country is being overrun with musilm immigrants. Might I remind you of France in that Novembers a few years back? That might happen to the UK--hell, things are practically set up! So its people like you that had opened the gates to your country. BTW, if you don't even live in the fuckin United States, how in the fuck do you know whats going on here? All you have heared is from the News over there? Biased of course. You don't see Americans talking shit about the UK now, but then you'd say ("oh, we're not commiting any horrible warcrimes!") so what? newsflash, your once great Prime Minister supported President Bush in the way. God speed to that man--he might not me the next Winston Churchill, but he's up there.
Because you live there that still gives you insight into whats going on here, on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FUCKIN POND. No matter if you watc CNN or Fox news over there either--their just as bad to what ever you got.
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
wasn't this supposed to be about Global Warming?


I guess this is the new YIYF Long Bridges Club thread! Anything goes...

About global warming: I wonder what those conservatives, that claimed that global warming was just a stupid fake hypotesis created by commie-loving liberals in order to stop companies from having profit, have to say now.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
So your using the fact you live in the UK to shield your self from the rest of the world? Wow...pathetic.. Am I? I thought I was just pointing out the fact that, despite having made it clear where I lived, since you and ferris209 seemed to think I was the canker within your fine country, you still seemed to be saying I was a US citizen with no gratitude or respect for my homeland. That's all.
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
I'm pretty sure another terror attack would have happened in the UK if it weren't for the amazing Law Enforcement there. Everything apply in the UK that I said. Hell, because of people like you your entire country is being overrun with musilm immigrants. Oh, really? Maybe we'd better bomb ourselves back to the stone age then.
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Might I remind you of France in that Novembers a few years back? That might happen to the UK--hell, things are practically set up! So its people like you that had opened the gates to your country. Excuse me while I flagellate myself for going against the pure teachings of WESHALLPRESERVE. If only we had had your wisdom before now!Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
BTW, if you don't even live in the fuckin United States, how in the fuck do you know whats going on here? All you have heared is from the News over there? Biased of course. You don't see Americans talking shit about the UK now, but then you'd say ("oh, we're not commiting any horrible warcrimes!")
Actually, I wouldn't claim any such bollocks, but you carry on.Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
newsflash, your once great Prime Minister supported President Bush in the way. God speed to that man--he might not me the next Winston Churchill, but he's up there.
Then God help us all.Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Because you live there that still gives you insight into whats going on here, on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FUCKIN POND. No matter if you watc CNN or Fox news over there either--their just as bad to what ever you got.
I wouldn't watch CNN or Fox unless I wanted a really good laugh. The BBC aren't up to much and getting worse and worse all the time. ITV are shit and always have been. Channel 4 news is the only one I can watch with laughing and/or destroying my TV in rage. And Rupert Murdoch can die in screaming pain for all I care.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
About global warming: I wonder what those conservatives, that claimed that global warming was just a stupid fake hypotesis created by commie-loving liberals in order to stop companies from having profit, have to say now.
Well, ric, so far in this thread the concensus seems to be:

"Global warming was just a stupid fake hypothesis created by commie-loving liberals in order to stop companies from having profit!"
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I feel sorry for Blair. The guy is (as I understand it) pretty much like a moderate/liberal here in this country, but he gets it. He gets the problem the Islamofascists present. Just like our Lieberman (also a liberal) gets it, too. Why is this so hard for people to grasp? There is nothing to be gained by being on the side of the terrorists. They give a frick about the liberals defending them in the US. Liberals are tools for the islamofascists. PC sentiments are tools for the terrorists. Its lovely how liberals play right into the terrorists' hands. They love this.
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Exactly--Theres Republican, Conservitive, Democrat, Liberal----the commie. Wherever you go, The first 4 all actually seem to be in agreement about the situation. the last...not so much.
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
Originally posted by: ricarleite
About global warming: I wonder what those conservatives, that claimed that global warming was just a stupid fake hypotesis created by commie-loving liberals in order to stop companies from having profit, have to say now.
Well, ric, so far in this thread the concensus seems to be:

"Global warming was just a stupid fake hypothesis created by commie-loving liberals in order to stop companies from having profit!"


The good thing about being a conservative is that if you're wrong, you'll be dead anyway.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
The good thing about being a conservative is that if you're wrong, you'll be dead anyway.
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Exactly--Theres Republican, Conservitive, Democrat, Liberal----the commie. Wherever you go, The first 4 all actually seem to be in agreement about the situation. the last...not so much.
You come out with reductive, simplistic, asinine statements like these and, at the same time, expect us to accept that you are better informed than most people 10 years your senior? For fuck's sake...
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
I feel sorry for Blair. The guy is (as I understand it) pretty much like a moderate/liberal here in this country, but he gets it. He gets the problem the Islamofascists present. Just like our Lieberman (also a liberal) gets it, too. Why is this so hard for people to grasp? There is nothing to be gained by being on the side of the terrorists. They give a frick about the liberals defending them in the US. Liberals are tools for the islamofascists. PC sentiments are tools for the terrorists. Its lovely how liberals play right into the terrorists' hands. They love this.
Okay, firstly, Tony Blair does not deserve anyone's pity. Public opinion has turned against him gradually because it has transpired that he has lied to parliament on several occasions, most notably on the eve of the invasion of Iraq. Many MPs (and citizens) supported the war until they found out that Blair had deliberately misled them in order to ensure they voted to participate.

Secondly, what's with your love of labels for people? Islamofascists, liberals, etc. And all problems boil down to the struggle of good against evil. It's amazing to me how quickly some people think they can decide who's good and who's bad. WESHALLPRESERVE loves it too, just look at his last post: "Theres Republican, Conservitive, Democrat, Liberal----the commie." Everything has to be simplified, dumbed-down and re-packaged with a nice explanatory label on it!

Thirdly, I, for one, am not in the habit of defending people who kill, for any reason. I think you'd find that most "liberals", as you've pigeon-holed them, do not defend acts of terrorism, whether committed by a religious group or a government or anyone. Such people attack the US and the UK because they refuse to acknowledge that they ever enter a war or tinker about with other countries' governments for anything less than the most pure, the most humanitarian of motives. Utter bullshit. Self-service and arrogance define both countries' approach to foreign affairs and always have done. This doesn't make them worse than any other nation, by the way. It makes them the same. But neither will ever admit it.

Fourthly, I am a resident of the UK. I dislike the policies of the current government and do not vote for people connected with it. I attack the way the UK has conducted it's affairs, both now and in the past. It's my right to do that. I also have a right to attack or defend whomever I choose, so long as I do it legally.

The invasion of Iraq was a criminal act on the part of the governments of the US and the UK and I don't think the people behind those actions should be allowed to get away with it.

I am aware that my rights would be very different in a state run by such as the Taliban or the Ba'athists. I do not defend terrorist actions.

I am not a pathetic retard without any grasp of the facts.

Neither am I an arrogant, self-righteous person prepared to kill or displace or disadvantage anyone to secure a peace through fear of reprisal. I value the life of all human beings because I'm not so blind as to think that I am better than anyone else.

To attack or control people with fear is terrorism.
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You say your not a pathetic retard with a grasp of facts-and you value human life--how about the life of people who are hell-bent on killing you? It may sound stupid--but do you value them too?
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Your just a very self-absorbed person to think the invasion was criminal in any sort. You, are in a very small minority in the world, luckily, so I'm very glad about that. You people will be the death of us, as the human race. You self destructive, I don't care people. Its dispicable, its disgusting. Not even Gomer might think the way you do about this world. You, and your people, however small in the minority, WILL be the death of us. Republican, democrat, American, and English man alike. I know people will agree with me and I hope your proud of yourself, and it sounds like you really are.
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We all have to decide how we're going to live. Knowing that someone, even everyone might disagree with me doesn't change my decision. Life is sacred, irrespective of what an individual might do with their life. Taking away someone's freedom may be justified but not their life.

I'm sorry you find me disgusting, WESHALLPRESERVE, but I'm probably in good company.
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The invasion of Iraq was a criminal act on the part of the governments of the US and the UK and I don't think the people behind those actions should be allowed to get away with it.

Iraq's invasion of Quait was a criminal act.
Iraq's leader's hate for the US and its allies was a criminal act.
Saddam's misleading inspectors was a criminal act.
Saddam killing hundreds of thousands of his OWN people was a criminal act.
Saddam conspiring against the US was a criminal act.
Saddam's support, aiding, and abetting of KNOWN terrorists was a criminal act.
Saddam's support an ideal that is destructive and terrorists is criminal!

If I recall correctly, US and UK were going off of reports that may have been flawed, but it was not a misleading. We and the UK were acting off information it was going on. Blair mislead no one. He was going off information provided.

You go on, you continue not to vote... or go ahead and vote for the wrong people, because your country is doomed anyway. The more you continue to appease that Muslim population, the more your own freedoms will slip, and then soon you'll be afraid to express any opinion at all when the Muslims start to slay people for differing opinion. I'm glad I don't live there.

As for labels. If you don't label something, how the hell are you suppose to know what you're up against? I know you liberals hate the label, but it's what you are. Deal with it. I'm a conservative! I'm a conservative Republican! Let me go full bore: I'm a CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN! AND I'M FUCKING PROUD OF IT!! Why are you so afraid of labels. You give them all the time. "Conservative" is suppose to be an insult in the mass media. African Americans are proud to be African Americans, when actually, they're JUST Americans like they should be. Give it a rest. I can't go around constantly calling terrorist: "Extra-national individuals who do not hold our values in any regard and would prefer to stick a pipebomb up our asses." I'd like to, but that's awfully long, and I prefer 'terrorist.'
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WESHALLPRESERVE: NO WE ARE NOT USING ENOUGH BOMBS YOU PHSYCO COMMUNIST.

He's the phsycho?
Your focus determines your reality.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
The invasion of Iraq was a criminal act on the part of the governments of the US and the UK and I don't think the people behind those actions should be allowed to get away with it.

Iraq's invasion of Quait was a criminal act.
Iraq's leader's hate for the US and its allies was a criminal act.
Saddam's misleading inspectors was a criminal act.
Saddam killing hundreds of thousands of his OWN people was a criminal act.
Saddam conspiring against the US was a criminal act.
Saddam's support, aiding, and abetting of KNOWN terrorists was a criminal act.
Saddam's support an ideal that is destructive and terrorists is criminal!

If I recall correctly, US and UK were going off of reports that may have been flawed, but it was not a misleading. We and the UK were acting off information it was going on. Blair mislead no one. He was going off information provided.

You go on, you continue not to vote... or go ahead and vote for the wrong people, because your country is doomed anyway. The more you continue to appease that Muslim population, the more your own freedoms will slip, and then soon you'll be afraid to express any opinion at all when the Muslims start to slay people for differing opinion. I'm glad I don't live there.

As for labels. If you don't label something, how the hell are you suppose to know what you're up against? I know you liberals hate the label, but it's what you are. Deal with it. I'm a conservative! I'm a conservative Republican! Let me go full bore: I'm a CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN! AND I'M FUCKING PROUD OF IT!! Why are you so afraid of labels. You give them all the time. "Conservative" is suppose to be an insult in the mass media. African Americans are proud to be African Americans, when actually, they're JUST Americans like they should be. Give it a rest. I can't go around constantly calling terrorist: "Extra-national individuals who do not hold our values in any regard and would prefer to stick a pipebomb up our asses." I'd like to, but that's awfully long, and I prefer 'terrorist.'


Yeah Saddam propogated criminal acts too, I don't see how that makes the criminal acts of the US and UK all fine and dandy.

To me criminal acts are criminal acts.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
Iraq's invasion of Quait was a criminal act.
Iraq's leader's hate for the US and its allies was a criminal act.
Saddam's misleading inspectors was a criminal act.
Saddam killing hundreds of thousands of his OWN people was a criminal act.
Saddam conspiring against the US was a criminal act.
Saddam's support, aiding, and abetting of KNOWN terrorists was a criminal act.
Saddam's support an ideal that is destructive and terrorists is criminal! I'm not a citizen of Iraq. I have no say in how they run their country. By the way, the second and the last on your list are not criminal acts, unless you plan to start telling people how they should think.
Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
If I recall correctly, US and UK were going off of reports that may have been flawed, but it was not a misleading. We and the UK were acting off information it was going on. Blair mislead no one. He was going off information provided. Actually, it has been proven that Blair mislead parliament. Nothing has been done about it. In case you're interested WESHALLPRESERVE (and I know you are! ), that disgusts me.Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
You go on, you continue not to vote... or go ahead and vote for the wrong people, because your country is doomed anyway. The more you continue to appease that Muslim population, the more your own freedoms will slip, and then soon you'll be afraid to express any opinion at all when the Muslims start to slay people for differing opinion. I'm glad I don't live there.
I do vote and I will vote for the candidate I feel represents me best. If there are no candidates that represent my political views then I will not vote in that instance. That's my right in a democracy. The muslim community are, in fact, not the ones taking away my rights. It's Tony Blair's government.Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
As for labels. If you don't label something, how the hell are you suppose to know what you're up against? I know you liberals hate the label, but it's what you are. Deal with it. I'm a conservative! I'm a conservative Republican! Let me go full bore: I'm a CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN! AND I'M FUCKING PROUD OF IT!! Why are you so afraid of labels. You give them all the time. "Conservative" is suppose to be an insult in the mass media. African Americans are proud to be African Americans, when actually, they're JUST Americans like they should be. Give it a rest. I can't go around constantly calling terrorist: "Extra-national individuals who do not hold our values in any regard and would prefer to stick a pipebomb up our asses." I'd like to, but that's awfully long, and I prefer 'terrorist.'
I'm not afraid of labels at all. I think they're useful, to a point. But I think the lengths to which you talk of muslims, liberals, conservatives, terrorists, etc. demonstrates that you're losing sight of individuality within those groups. You're dehumanising the people within the groups. I don't hate to be called a liberal but it's not all there is to me and I'm comfortable with that.

I'm a Christian too. I'm glad that you don't regard being labelled as a Christian, conservative republican as an insult. Good for you.

I love my neighbour.
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Gomertonic shut the hell up. Your insatiable lust for stupid arguments is unbearable.


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Yeah Saddam propogated criminal acts too, I don't see how that makes the criminal acts of the US and UK all fine and dandy.

Then you must have thought Clinton's invasion of Kosovo a crime, too?
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Good points Wedge!

It is this simple, although I value human life, there are some people who just do not need to be breathing our air. auraloffalwaffle will just never understand how badly he has to defend his right to live until he is dead.

Invading Iraq was not a bad thing, it WAS NOT criminal. I doubt he has even talked to any Iraq War veterans. I work with two on a daily basis and I know what is going on in that desert directly from those who have been there. A majority of those people want us there and want freedom.

Here is what some people do not factor in, I could take a video camera to California and video record only the drug ridden and crime laden areas. At the end, I would have hours of video which shows police chases, gunfights, arrests of criminals, gang shootings, murders, etc. Some with a closed mind would look at that and go, "Man that California is a complete hell!" But if you saw the whole picture of California, the wine farms, the wonderful sights, Golden Gate, Hollywood, Bakersfield, and all that Califonia has t offer then you would know that California's crime problem is just not that bad once you see the whole picture. This is what is occuring in Iraq, every news report shows another soldier dieing from an IED, another Iraqi protesting our presence, another terrorist kidnapping a civilian American, the fact that a there are civilian casualties of war. They NEVER show the millions of poeple who appreciate us being there, the houses that American troops are wiring up for electricity, the places where kids are going to school again, and where the women can have a chance to learn. All these things, plus thousands of others, are totally ignored by people who simply want to critiscize the issues instead of make any effort to help.

Life and death is a complicated issue, auraloffalwaffle may understand this, but he simplifies it by saying that ALL human life is precious. I disagree, there are just some people that walk our earth that do not deserve to breath our air. Osama Bin Laden for one, rapists, murderers, and many others. It is a fact of life, live with it.

Unfortunately, I am in a career where I see things first hand that most people cannot even imagine. I've seen dead people, the raped, the drugged up, the murdered, the horrible victims of crimes which should never have been commited.

Some will just never understand until they see things oustide of their comfortable climate controlled homes where there only source of information is the news which has been watered down, changed, and given somebody's perspective about how things are. auraloffalwaffle claims that we are robots who work under command, it is the other way around totally. Every opinion I have is based on personal experience.
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If he does--theres no hope for him. Their both just asking to get their throats cut by their musilim friends down the street at the local mosque. WISE UP YOU GUYS! ITS NOT YOUR GOVERMENT THATS STRIPING YOUR FREEEDOMS, ITS YOUR SELVES.
Your hopeless-----Why am I even argueing with you mentaly disabled people?
No Gomer. We Are not using enough bombs If me were we would be out of Iraq by now.
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Yeah Saddam propogated criminal acts too, I don't see how that makes the criminal acts of the US and UK all fine and dandy.

To me criminal acts are criminal acts.


So what are we supposed to do? Turn the other cheek after stuff like 9/11? Sit by while ruthless dictators kill hundreds of innocent people? Are you fucking nuts, Gomer???

Personal attacks be damned. You're an asshole. That kind of attitude gets people killed. You obviously need another 9/11 to wake you the fuck up. Do you want a nuke going off in downtown Chicago? Or New York? You want millions dead? I know you don't WANT it....but if you continue to be as soft as you are on this shit, then that is exactly what you will get....and it doesn't take something like that to convince me that we need to strike back quick and hard and kill every single one of the bastards. It's people with the attitude like mine that keeps pussies like you alive. I think you should just shut up and leave the hard decisions to the people who are willing to make them and do what it takes.

Fucking moron.

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Originally posted by: ferris209auraloffalwaffle claims that we are robots who work under command
I did no such thing.

I do believe that all life is sacred and if you think that's a bad thing then fair enough. I arrived at that conclusion after consideration, despite what you may think. I believe that I have no right to decide who lives or who dies in this world. Naturally, that influences my feelings on subjects such as war or crime or whatever. It is also my belief that no-one else has the right to decide who lives and who dies and those who kill should have their freedom to do so taken away from them.

That you think some people are not worthy to keep their life is not a fact of life that I have to deal with. It is your opinion, ferris209. No more or less.
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