I don’t remember any 80’s TV airings of either film as I was only born in 1986 but I fully remember when GBI was aired in the early 90’s that it did not replace the “Wally Wick” line or any alternate made-for-TV dialogue. Ray said “…by dickless here”. But i was only about 6 years old at the time and was yet to know what certain words meant! They didn’t edit out all of swear words but the scene with Daina being grabbed by the Zool-arms chair was completely cut. It ended as soon as Daina could see hand/claw prints through the door. I remember it vividly because I (well, my parents) taped both films and I played them constantly. Quite odd because I seem to remember both films being on fair late in the evening. Maybe not quite post-watershed but late enough to not be edited. But like I say, GBI was edited, GBII (which I taped the ITV premier of) was not. In terms of what transfer they used, I’m assuming they were largely the same ones used for the 1999 DVD’s. Those tapes are sadly long gone so I can’t check.
It sounds like ITV edited GB1 for time. I hated that practice and they did it for years: hacking footage away to cram in more adverts and fit a particular broadcast schedule. When you watched the same film on home video or a different channel, you ended being feeling confused at the “additional” segments.
That’s interesting what you say about C4 using old masters which raises my hopes about this airing slightly. The 1999 master of GBII is nothing really to write home about (as much as the 1999 GBI transfer IMPO) but like the original, it’s how I remember it looking and maybe worth preserving. I would not have a clue how to rip from a Virgin Media TiVo box to an mkv though. Don’t think it’s possible through conventional methods. If i am successful in doing so, it will be 25fps as it’s a UK TV airing but still.
Does this help at all? 😃
On my setup, I haven’t got any copy-prohibit restrictions, so worst case scenario, I could probably send you the .TS file if you run into problems on your end.
Also, end credits (after the Bobby Brown song) will probably be sped-up on the Ch4 broadcast which I assume is the norm these days.
Unfortunately so. Sped up and truncated. Film4 is the most irritating offender in this respect because they time compress films to death, even omitting entire credit sequences that are relevant to the film, whilst marketing themselves as the dedicated film channel.