Ghostbusters - Criterion PCM Track (see Jonno's post; plus lots more info) (Released) — Page 5

i didn't mean everything on the new transfer was bad i meant spots of it are

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

It seems that the pre-4K BD color grading is similar to old DVD (and maybe HDTV):

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/21921/picture:0

 Yes, the old pre-4K BD is probably sourced from the same master as the 2005 DVD. However the 1999 DVD uses a different source from both the pre-4K BD and 2005 DVD - you can see this if you compare the contrast differences. The HDTV in on the other hand is sourced from the same source from the 1999 DVD transfer, but there have been other HDTV sources which are sourced from the 2005 master as well - really depends on which HDTV version you have.

The 4K BD is a happy compromise of the 1999 and 2005 in my opinion, but for those of us who are used to a more muddy transfer over the years such as the 1999 DVD, the 4K BD seems a little bit too 'vibrant' in parts.

that's not what i meant ether did you even go to the spook cental's website and read what they bring up as the issues they have with it?

well the color grading is okay in spots but like that last comparison it's too blue and the contrast is wrong things like that are the issues with this and gb 2 but the 4k blu ray is pretty close.your comparison shot the proton pack and the elbow pads are blue i don't know if that's the right color. so in short that what i mean by color correction getting them to look right both in colors and contrast and black crush.

not the blu ray i'm talk about compared 4k blu ray to the 1999 dvd there are some color issues and contrast issues brightness issues and yes i did look at all the comparisons i also read the descriptions of the comparisons as well. there are some issues with the 4k blu ray compared to the dvd the 4k set would be perfect if someone fixed those issues that's what i was saying. 

ElectricTriangle said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Let's say that BD 4K has the "right" color grading, but it has also contrast problems, while the BD pre-4K has the right contrast, but not the color grading... well, as the contrast problems could not be completely solved, we could just regrade the BD pre-4K using the BD 4K as color reference...

 No. The 4k has the best contrast of all the released discs. The pre-4k blu-ray is the one with contrast problems (the frequently blown out whites are clearly wrong). In the comparison shot you posted, you can clearly see that both faces and the smoke are overexposed in the pre-4k blu-ray. In another comparison shot from page 3 of this thread you can see that the pre-4k bluray looks atrocious with ridiculous blooming whites, while the 4k remaster has natural contrast that preserves detail.

The 4k blu-ray is the best home media release of the film. The only reason this thread got restarted is that jedimasterobiwan thinks the 1999 DVD is somehow more accurate.... or something..... I don't really understand how he thinks.

Yeah that was what I was trying to say - the pre-4K BD and 2005 DVD have the contrast overexposed, and the 4K BD has the contrast right but the colours are slightly too saturated in parts. The 1999 DVD on the other hand is more balanced contrast wise but a bit too pink and muddy in places - although I can't tell if the muddiness is the way the film is supposed to look and then was boosted in the subsequent releases to appear more brighter and vivid.

The 4K BD is near perfect for me, but I can understand why some people might feel it doesn't look right still.

i wasn't talking about the muddiness i was talking about have certain shots colors look a little bit better on the 1999 dvd i agree about the muddiness and pink shot should be fix but the color in certain parts and contrast and black levels in certain parts should be fixed to how descriptions say in other words fix parts that may look better on the 1999 dvd but keep others to look the same as they do on 4k blu ray 

yeah the 4k blu ray fixes most of the contrast issues but i think still some they didn't fix like the last comparison on spook central. also the 4k blu ray does have black crush and some color issues i'm not talking about pink color on 1999 dvd they fix or the muddiness that fixed from the 1999 dvd. i'm talking about some colors are said to be better on the 1999 dvd.

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

MY FAULT, MY FAULT!!! Sorry, with all these screenshot comparisons, I exchanged images by mistake... so, what I presumed contrast problem in the 4K BD, is indeed in the pre-4K BD... apologies to everyone...

Hey no problem - you don't really need to apologise.

Always happy to see what you can come up with.

If this is the print I saw at the Cinematheque Halloween 2010 screening, it’s grainy and beat up six ways to shit (AFAIK, it’s an original 70mm from '84), it has a sizable amount of splices (and some of them aren’t just a couple frames, 5-10 seconds are missing, particularly at some of the reel changes), but on the positive, the sound is great and since it’s LPP, the color is completely intact.

When you say you have the 4k version I am assuming that you have the Blu Ray version that was taken from a 4k print and not an actual 4k digital rip. I bought the recent Blu Ray release of Mad Max Fury Road it came with the UltraViolet digital copy accessed through VUDU. Then in VUDU I see if I pay another $24.99 I can stream it in 4K. I was not to happy about paying another 25 bucks to see it 4K. I Back to GB if they release it in 4K would you buy it again?

Apparently, GB will be released in the new 4K Blu-ray format when players and titles start rolling out this year.

See here:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/11/9713580/4k-uhd-blu-rays-announced-release-date

http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/10/sony-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-2016/

Is the 1080i HDTV rip of the original Ghostbusters still around? I have a 720p version of it (which is still a huge improvement over my 1999 DVD) but I’d love the 1080i version. The Mastered in 4K Blu Ray is decent (and I assume the Ultra 4K is just the same transfer) but it’s just not quite how I remember Ghostbusters looking. The 1080i HDTV rip would be my dream version.

All of those dvd and Blu-rays are wrong.

It looks well different If you take into account the Gozer images. She is meant to be surrounded by Blue not pink.

It’s basically missing loads of Blue. But it needs to be as dark as the original DVD.

Why do films always lose Blue first?

Double Feature DVD is the closest but I still don’t think it is right.

it has a turqouise / Blue to it.

I would say the double feature DVD was boosted up a bit but it carries the trait of the turqoise blue tint in some respects.

Basically buy the Book by Larry Milne and inside there are photos in the middle. I think they are accurate or pretty much correct and they look like they have been taken from a film print. They have that film quality to them.

I’d like to see it look like the photo’s in the book anyway.

I’ve the OG 1999 DVD, the first Blu-ray release from 2009, the BD which is in the double feature with II and is the Mi4K with bonus features disc. Going to buy the UHD release when I & II are $15.
All I want is the PCM track from the Criterion LD.
Why not get a not faded film print of it and not how people “remember” it for a BD25 color regrade? Use the Mi4K BD as the source. NO DVNR or EE!

The 1999 transfer admittedly has a more red-ish tone to it and and tiny bit too dark but it has more natural looking colours than the 2005 (Green Double Feature) DVD. Plus 2005 DVD has been slightly cropped. I think the 2009 Blu Ray is basically a re-scan of the 2005 master. The 2014 Mi4K is probably overall the best all-round version in terms of colour and clarity and an instant recommendation for someone who’s never owned Ghostbusters previously but it’s a bit too bright for my liking. I would just love an HD version of the 1999 transfer purely out of personal preference. It may not be how it looked in theaters back in 1984 but it’s just the version I remember watching on VHS/TV in the early 90’s and later on DVD. If anyone could point me in the right direction of the 1080i HDTV rip of it that would be amazing!

I’d rather have the clarity and all the film grain from the 2014 Mi4K release but color timed how it looked in cinemas in 1984. No revisionist color timing but as close in appearance to the original intention would be great.
Unless if the 2014 Mi4K, the Mi4K with bonus features, AND the UHD are the intention, then all I need is the PCM track.

RayRogers said:

I’d rather have the clarity and all the film grain from the 2014 Mi4K release but color timed how it looked in cinemas in 1984. No revisionist color timing but as close in appearance to the original intention would be great.
Unless if the 2014 Mi4K, the Mi4K with bonus features, AND the UHD are the intention, then all I need is the PCM track.

Hell yeah same goes for the despised but i like it ghostbusters 2.