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bkev said:

I tried to watch the Holiday Special last night for the first time in full.  Usually, I tend to skim it.  What a mistake that was.  

Wow.  I was with a few friends who did this to humor me, and one of them loved it.  Well, at least, for some reason he was captured by the Diahann Carroll segment.  Other than that, though, we all hated it.  I mean, I couldn't even ironically enjoy it.  Turned it off halfway through the cartoon.  And yes, for the record, we did use the rifftrax for part of it.

Worst decision I've made this week. 

Turn in your fandom card, and clean out your locker. ;)

Where were you in '77?

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DuracellEnergizer said:

I've seen too many truly horrible movies to be fazed by the moderate poorness that is the Holiday Special.

And I saw variety specials back in the day that makes the HS a walk in the park. (Remember those 70's Brady Bunch reunions?) These darn kids know nothing of hell. ;)

Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:


(Remember those 70's Brady Bunch reunions?) These darn kids know nothing of hell. ;)


That's before my time, actually. I'm a 90's/early 00's kid all the way =D

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 It's like an insane long term prank that people even watch the special 35 years later. The networks cranked out about 5 of those stupid things a week to fill timeslots cheaply but people are like, scrutinizing this one. It's as if someone watched a random Judge Judy episode in 35 years and said "hey! This isn't very good! I was led to believe crime tv in the 2000s was pretty good!"

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True, but most were not so widely taped and preserved, especially in an age when few people even owned a VCR. (And this is the only one based on a blockbuster film, AFAIK.) A lot of them will probably never be released because of music rights, or the masters could be lost. The liner notes on The Paul Lynde Halloween Special  DVD mention it was mastered from the late comedian's personal copy. It's even more bizarre than the HS.

Part of the allure of the HS is that is was once nigh impossible to see unless you could scrounge up a copy. And a good many people too young to have seen it doubted the bloody thing existed. There were a couple one off specials from Sat AM in the 70's I had little evidence existed before the internet came along.

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Tobar said:

*Actually enjoys the Holiday Special and only ever watches it in full*

It's fun and hilarious. Others' reactions to the Special's weirdness crack me up.

 

 

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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

SilverWook said:


(Remember those 70's Brady Bunch reunions?) These darn kids know nothing of hell. ;)


That's before my time, actually. I'm a 90's/early 00's kid all the way =D

 

You come across as someone considerably older.

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SilverWook said:

bkev said:

I tried to watch the Holiday Special last night for the first time in full.  Usually, I tend to skim it.  What a mistake that was.  

Wow.  I was with a few friends who did this to humor me, and one of them loved it.  Well, at least, for some reason he was captured by the Diahann Carroll segment.  Other than that, though, we all hated it.  I mean, I couldn't even ironically enjoy it.  Turned it off halfway through the cartoon.  And yes, for the record, we did use the rifftrax for part of it.

Worst decision I've made this week. 

Turn in your fandom card, and clean out your locker. ;)

I did forget to mention that it does one thing none of the films manages.  The Holiday Special actually deals with the Empire and normal people.  In this regard, the fascist regime we're only told about in the films shines through.  Not only is it fun to watch random Imperial soldiers be dicks to Chewbacca's family, it's interesting to see the propaganda film angle they put on the Cantina scene (OK, I finished it last night...)

I wish that there were still so few commercials on network TV.  For God's sake, it felt like watching Hulu.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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bkev said:

I tried to watch the Holiday Special last night for the first time in full.  Usually, I tend to skim it.  What a mistake that was.  

Wow.  I was with a few friends who did this to humor me, and one of them loved it.  Well, at least, for some reason he was captured by the Diahann Carroll segment.  Other than that, though, we all hated it.  I mean, I couldn't even ironically enjoy it.  Turned it off halfway through the cartoon.  And yes, for the record, we did use the rifftrax for part of it.

Worst decision I've made this week. 

I still remember watching it over my aunts house in 1978, and even as a 6 year old kid I thought it was horrible.  My only memory is Chewbacca's family, and I think Bea Arthur was in it?  I would like to watch it sometime again just to see HOW bad it was. 

 

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As George allegedly hates it so much, (while making a couple merchandising bucks from it on the side) watching it is a moral duty. ;)

It's harder to find something from the 70's Bea Arthur wasn't in.

 

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bkev said:

SilverWook said:

bkev said:

I tried to watch the Holiday Special last night for the first time in full.  Usually, I tend to skim it.  What a mistake that was.  

Wow.  I was with a few friends who did this to humor me, and one of them loved it.  Well, at least, for some reason he was captured by the Diahann Carroll segment.  Other than that, though, we all hated it.  I mean, I couldn't even ironically enjoy it.  Turned it off halfway through the cartoon.  And yes, for the record, we did use the rifftrax for part of it.

Worst decision I've made this week. 

Turn in your fandom card, and clean out your locker. ;)

I did forget to mention that it does one thing none of the films manages.  The Holiday Special actually deals with the Empire and normal people.  In this regard, the fascist regime we're only told about in the films shines through.  Not only is it fun to watch random Imperial soldiers be dicks to Chewbacca's family, it's interesting to see the propaganda film angle they put on the Cantina scene (OK, I finished it last night...)

I wish that there were still so few commercials on network TV.  For God's sake, it felt like watching Hulu.

That's an interesting point. And Art Carney's character is the kind of Rebel spy or field operative we heard about but never saw in the films.

Still, how many stormtroopers are going to brag back at the barracks they trashed a little kid's room today, and ripped the head off a stuffed Bantha? ;)

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What's up with Obi Wan claiming "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"?

He gets the ability to appear anywhere and talk to people. THAT'S IT. That's a far cry from more powerful than what could be imagined.

Then again, Obi Wan is a pathological liar.

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Because a Sith can't comprehend that a Jedi could exist after physical death?

Vader even says in ESB that Obi Wan can no longer help Luke. We've never seen a Sith ghost in the movies, so I'm guessing they can't do it.

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Yoda made him do it...

Preferred Saga:
1,2: Numeraljoker extended
3: L8wrtr
4,6-9: Hal9000
5: Adywan

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Reegar said:



DuracellEnergizer said:

 


SilverWook said:

(Remember those 70's Brady Bunch reunions?) These darn kids know nothing of hell. ;)



That's before my time, actually. I'm a 90's/early 00's kid all the way =D

 


You come across as someone considerably older.


I guess a lot of it can be chalked up to a lack of close friends growing up as a kid (I spent all my free time outside of school at home with my parents) and my general isolation from contemporary pop culture at the time (if it wasn't shown/mentioned on the two-to-three TV stations I got or the local rock music station I listened to, I had little to no knowledge of it).

Plus, I like to read (that seems to be more than can be said for most people of my generation) and have a overwhelming hatred for most slang/fashion/technology/music/movies/etc. that's come out since the early-to-mid 00's.

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The women are clothed, though.

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You've never heard of a translucent playing deck? ;)

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Reegar said:

The women are clothed, though.

They usually are.  That's how they keep us wanting more.

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Baronlando said:

 It's like an insane long term prank that people even watch the special 35 years later. The networks cranked out about 5 of those stupid things a week to fill timeslots cheaply but people are like, scrutinizing this one. It's as if someone watched a random Judge Judy episode in 35 years and said "hey! This isn't very good! I was led to believe crime tv in the 2000s was pretty good!"

It's not quite the same since it does have the actors from the movies (which were a modest success back in the day) in it and Harrison Ford happened to have a film career afterwards. He's still pretty well known. I suppose that's what makes this one stand out. I know I couldn't believe they roped all these people (along with all these people who are completely unknown these days to anyone who hasn't been watching TV in the 70s, I assume. I haven't) into a crappy TV special when I heard about the SWHS.

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Are you saying Star Wars was a modest success?

Where were you in '77?