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Servii said:

Realistically, Anakin should have been fully on the Dark Side after the Tusken massacre. The Dark Side is supposed to be like a drug that takes hold of you once you tap into it. The act of hate-fueled murder should have been more than enough to push him over the edge. It should have been a more damning moment for Anakin, since him hesitantly killing Dooku or attacking Mace is much less severe by comparison.

Exactly. It also robs all power from Luke’s confrontation with Vader in ROTJ because Luke could have done a full genocidal rampage across the Death Star Stormtrooper and Officer Daycare Center and it would have been just a little whoopsie doodle that everyone would instantly forgive because he’s dealing with a lot right now and who hasn’t killed an entire village in a rage before, you sanctimonious hypocrites.

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Those Tuskens may walk like men, but they’re vicious, mindless monsters. Ergo, it’s alright to indiscriminately massacre them.

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Superweapon VII said:

Those Tuskens may walk like men, but they’re vicious, mindless monsters. Ergo, it’s alright to indiscriminately massacre them.

This, but not ironically.

(Kidding of course)

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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NeverarGreat said:

Servii said:

Realistically, Anakin should have been fully on the Dark Side after the Tusken massacre. The Dark Side is supposed to be like a drug that takes hold of you once you tap into it. The act of hate-fueled murder should have been more than enough to push him over the edge. It should have been a more damning moment for Anakin, since him hesitantly killing Dooku or attacking Mace is much less severe by comparison.

Exactly. It also robs all power from Luke’s confrontation with Vader in ROTJ because Luke could have done a full genocidal rampage across the Death Star Stormtrooper and Officer Daycare Center and it would have been just a little whoopsie doodle that everyone would instantly forgive because he’s dealing with a lot right now and who hasn’t killed an entire village in a rage before, you sanctimonious hypocrites.

That reminds me, Warhammer 40K is Star Wars on buckets of meth.

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BedeHistory731 said:

NeverarGreat said:

Servii said:

Realistically, Anakin should have been fully on the Dark Side after the Tusken massacre. The Dark Side is supposed to be like a drug that takes hold of you once you tap into it. The act of hate-fueled murder should have been more than enough to push him over the edge. It should have been a more damning moment for Anakin, since him hesitantly killing Dooku or attacking Mace is much less severe by comparison.

Exactly. It also robs all power from Luke’s confrontation with Vader in ROTJ because Luke could have done a full genocidal rampage across the Death Star Stormtrooper and Officer Daycare Center and it would have been just a little whoopsie doodle that everyone would instantly forgive because he’s dealing with a lot right now and who hasn’t killed an entire village in a rage before, you sanctimonious hypocrites.

That reminds me, Warhammer 40K is Star Wars on buckets of meth.

From what I’ve gleaned from cultural osmosis, that sounds about right.

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In hindsight, the Mando Season 2 finale would have been the opportune moment to introduce a recast Luke Skywalker. Luke showing up was already a pleasant surprise for people, but then he could take off his hood and reveal Sebastian Stan or whoever’s face. Then Lucasfilm could announce future projects featuring Stan or whoever as Luke.

Disney and Lucasfilm blame the recasting for Solo’s poor performance, but I don’t think that’s really fair. It’s all a matter of timing and execution with recasts. And that Mando episode would have been the ideal time for it.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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Anthony Ingruber would’ve been the perfect young Han Solo, as he looks exactly like a young Harrison Ford.

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fmalover said:

Anthony Ingruber would’ve been the perfect young Han Solo, as he looks exactly like a young Harrison Ford.

I thought the same at the time Solo was going into production. Physically, he’s perfect. But just 'cause he can do a spot-on impression of Ford as Han doesn’t entail he has the necessary acting chops to carry an entire movie.

Someone should cast him in a fan-film to test his mettle.

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I just realized that the OT follows the Always Sunny in Philadelphia team dynamic. Luke is the looks. Leia is the brains. Han is the wildcard. Chewie is the muscle.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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nvm

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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Just a random thought, but…
I came up with a nice way in wich the Star Wars movies could have been organized. My idea is to have a prologue movie for every Trilogy, this way creating an epic 12-episodes Saga. So, the whole thing would be something like…

Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Episode III: Labyrinth of Evil
Episode IV: Revenge of the Sith
Episode V: The Force Unleashed
Episode VI: A New Hope
Episode VII: The Empire Strikes Back
Episode VIII: Return of the Jedi
Episode IX: Tatooine Ghost
Episode X: Heir to the Empire
Episode XI: Dark Force Rising
Episode XII: The Last Command

What do you think?

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The whole point of Solo a Star Wars story was, it was before he became the Han we know. He hasn’t been betrayed and sufficiently broken yet to become cynical. It was an origin film. One of more than one, eventually they would have shown him become the Han in Star Wars. In Solo he was a goodie. As far as a criminal goes. He helped the rebellion. He stabbed Lando in the back by helping Enfys Nest. We haven’t seen him become a smooth operator yet, he isn’t cool with the ladies, he isn’t a great pilot or smuggler. He is a bs artist. He is a kid kind of not that different than Luke except he had to survive on the streets of Corellia.

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Random thought / observation …nearly every prequel rewrite or idea I come across still uses characters that were created for the movies that came out between 1999 and 2005 . Darth Maul , Grievous , Dooku , Qui Gon, etc . Be nice to see a rewrite or idea using original characters as well as the ones from the OT that would logically carry over …

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screams in the void said:

Random thought / observation …nearly every prequel rewrite or idea I come across still uses characters that were created for the movies that came out between 1999 and 2005 . Darth Maul , Grievous , Dooku , Qui Gon, etc . Be nice to see a rewrite or idea using original characters as well as the ones from the OT that would logically carry over …

It’s more of a challenge that way, but it can definitely open up a lot more options for the rewriter. I’m personally a fan of the idea of using most of the prequel characters as a base and then tweaking them to suit the story. So, you might have a fallen Jedi leading a separatist movement, a character who’s like Dooku but also diverges in several ways. Or you can have a Kaleesh warlord character who’s a deviation from Grievous.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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screams in the void said:

Random thought / observation …nearly every prequel rewrite or idea I come across still uses characters that were created for the movies that came out between 1999 and 2005 . Darth Maul , Grievous , Dooku , Qui Gon, etc . Be nice to see a rewrite or idea using original characters as well as the ones from the OT that would logically carry over …

I’m not a fan of soft prequel rewrites, but is there any constructive reason to completely eschew those characters? If your story calls for the inclusion of a Qui-Gon or Dooku-type figure, why not just use them? Filing the serial numbers off seems more like an exercise in contrarianism than anything else.

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screams in the void said:

Random thought / observation …nearly every prequel rewrite or idea I come across still uses characters that were created for the movies that came out between 1999 and 2005 . Darth Maul , Grievous , Dooku , Qui Gon, etc . Be nice to see a rewrite or idea using original characters as well as the ones from the OT that would logically carry over …

I had an involved outline for a prequel trilogy that used only original and OT characters, but which coexisted in the same continuity as the Lucas Prequels.

The first one is set between Episodes 2 and 3 and follows a family of scrap merchants scrounging material from Clone Wars battles. A young woman from this family finds a stasis pod among the wreckage and takes it on board, only to realize that inside the pod is an injured Anakin Skywalker. He communicates through the Force with our hero throughout the film, which is a self-contained tale set on the ship as she works to evade evil droids bent on destroying the injured Jedi. Though these trials she gains the confidence to become a pilot like Anakin.

The second story is set during the events of Episode 3 and tells of the young woman who has finally achieved her dream of becoming a pilot and serving under a Jedi Master in the wars. She forms a close bond with this original character, but when Order 66 comes down the line he is shot down and despite her best efforts he dies. The war is over, but she is now even more lost than she was before.

The final story happens in the aftermath of Episode 3 and details the rise of the Empire. The young woman finds her family again and together they form an underground movement led by certain Jedi in hiding and aided by droids from the Separatists whom they managed to protect. There is an assassin droid among them and it has a detailed plan to destroy the new Emperor. They go along with this plan, initiating the final battle of the Clone Wars, though it fails and they evacuate under fire. She is chased by a figure in a sleek Imperial fighter who calls himself Darth Vader. She recognizes that this is the same Anakin Skywalker that helped her years ago and he senses her as well. She leads him on a merry chase and manages to evade him through techniques he had taught her, eventually leading the entire cell back underground to join with the growing Rebel Alliance and fight this new war among the stars…

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You like the Max Rebo Band?

Their early work was a little too “new wave” for my taste. But when “Lapti Nek” came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost.

He’s been compared to Figrin D’an, but I think Max has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

In '97, Max released Galactic Dance Blast, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is “Jedi Rocks”. A song so catchy, most people probably don’t listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it’s not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It’s also a personal statement about the band itself.

Hey, Maul!

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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Servii said:

Working on many edits, may take many years to complete…

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Wow. I just realized that the opening sequence in TPM is even more stupid than I thought. Obi and Qui don’t even disguise the fact that they are Jedi!!! Yet the Neimodians (I am horrified by the thought that I might have spelt that correctly) need to be told by the droid!! They were expecting ambassadors of some sort.

What a mess. Was there a script re-write that just got jumbled up? Like, were Qui and Obi were supposed to be wearing different clothing and they forgot about that on shooting day?

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-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord

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The fact that the Jedi don’t wear disguises doesn’t bother me. It makes sense that the Chancellor sent them as both ambassadors and Jedi to quickly end the dispute with this show of force. It also appears to almost work, since the Trade Federation only resists them due to the influence of a more powerful Force user driving them to attack the Jedi. Otherwise the Federation would have given in to the Chancellor’s demands.

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One of the biggest misses of the ST is that IMO we were robbed of the opportunity of having Caroline Blakiston cameo as an elderly Mon Mothma. I remember reading an interview with her where she expressed her desire to reprise the character.

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The ST has more missed opportunities than you can shake a stick at.

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I hear a lot of people say that Mace Windu was a jerk, especially to Anakin. But I don’t really see that in the movies. The worst thing I can think of is him telling Anakin to “take a seat,” but even then, Anakin was clearly the one who was out of line. Maybe it’s because of how he acts in TCW, but going off the prequels alone, I don’t think he’s a jerk.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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Perhaps not a jerk, per se, but he definitely had a stick up his ass.

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