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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 453

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Another vote for Despecialized 2.0 being the best ESB around right now.

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Z6PO said:

I seem to recall that at the time The Force Awakens was released, people were saying that they would have liked to see the old gang together. But thinking of it, in the original trilogy, Luke, Han & Leia aren’t that much together.

But at least they WERE together in the OT. Now that the three films of the ST are finished, that doesn’t even happen once. I think that’s the point some fans are angry about. With the old films (and the old EU over the past years) they established a fundamental friendship between the main protagonists. Now it seems they were just on for an adventure 30 years ago, and that’s it.

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Roobyoo said:

Z6PO said:

I seem to recall that at the time The Force Awakens was released, people were saying that they would have liked to see the old gang together. But thinking of it, in the original trilogy, Luke, Han & Leia aren’t that much together.

But at least they WERE together in the OT. Now that the three films of the ST are finished, that doesn’t even happen once. I think that’s the point some fans are angry about. With the old films (and the old EU over the past years) they established a fundamental friendship between the main protagonists. Now it seems they were just on for an adventure 30 years ago, and that’s it.

This should go without saying. So why does it have to be said?

“If you err it is not for me to punish you. We are punished by our sins not for them.”

— Elbert Hubbard

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Return of the Jedi - well, while the new color grade is vastly superior to the previous DVD and BD versions, this is the first one where I feel the complaints about saturation are valid. Most of the film still looks great, but there are some scenes on Tatooine and in the Endor forest that do indeed look too washed out imo. It’s not terrible, but it was noticeable. But still, best looking “official” version since the SE prints were being screened in theaters back in the spring of ‘97.

Again, the changes are unnecessary and distracting at best and downright ridiculous and out of place at worst. I still take the side of those who argue including Hayden as the ghost both makes no sense from Luke’s perspective (who is that guy?) but, more importantly, completely fails to grasp and acknowledge Anakin’s redemption. He shouldn’t revert to his pre-dark side self. He’s redeemed! Born again! Inspite of his checkered past. The unmasked old man IS the new light side Anakin. Ignoring that lessens and perhaps even invalidates his redemption arc.

Other than that it’s still a solid conclusion to the trilogy. Drags a bit in the middle but the third act is pretty powerful.

And I’m still enjoying taking a step back and viewing the series from a sort of “galactic history lesson” perspective. Very cool seeing how it all fits together.

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Honestly, the color grade for the new ROTJ master reminded me a lot of the v1.0 4K83 colors.

a trolling bantha

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I’d like a regrade of 4K77 and 83 with GOUT colors and Dr. Dre’s color matching tool.

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ray_afraid said:

So, can we only give OT random thoughts in this thread now?

Rules are made to be bent severely.

This and the random pics thread really would fit better in “The Expanded Universe & General Star Wars Discussion”.

“If you err it is not for me to punish you. We are punished by our sins not for them.”

— Elbert Hubbard

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I now really want 4K77 and 83 with GOUT colors.

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Reylo needs a theme song. I nominate this.

“If you err it is not for me to punish you. We are punished by our sins not for them.”

— Elbert Hubbard

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I really want 4k83 and 77 graded with GOUT colors

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Not really sure what thread to put this in, but my annual SW contribution to Christmas was finished yesterday after much finicky and messy work. I’m not sure how edible those Vader ones actually are (the black food colouring smelt really weird and I used a lot of it), but I think they turned out alright.

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^ brilliant mate - though now I’m hungry again and have only just eaten 😃

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I find that answer vague and unconvincing. Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? And say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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oojason said:

^ brilliant mate - though now I’m hungry again and have only just eaten 😃

Thanks.


And for an actual SW-related random thought;

YouTube recently decided to recommend a 1952 movie-serial called Radar Men from the Moon and the main character is wearing a helmet, has a jet-pack, and is named Commando Cody. I wonder if this might have been one of Lucas’ inspirations for Boba/Jango Fett as well as Commander Cody.

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I don’t think I like any of the alien races introduced in ROTJ. Except for this one:

These guys are too strange-looking not to like.

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Oh, yeah, the Mon Calamari, too. They’re so ubiquitious throughout SW, I forgot they first appeared in ROTJ.

“If you err it is not for me to punish you. We are punished by our sins not for them.”

— Elbert Hubbard

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ZkinandBonez said:

oojason said:

^ brilliant mate - though now I’m hungry again and have only just eaten 😃

Thanks.


And for an actual SW-related random thought;

YouTube recently decided to recommend a 1952 movie-serial called Radar Men from the Moon and the main character is wearing a helmet, has a jet-pack, and is named Commando Cody. I wonder if this might have been one of Lucas’ inspirations for Boba/Jango Fett as well as Commander Cody.

Well, that answers that question; https://youtu.be/m4LFX-RWfn4?t=485

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Christmas season has been super busy but I managed to finish my full saga watch-thru culminating in seeing TROS last night. Quick rapid fire thoughts on the final films:

TFA - I like this movie quite well. It’s not perfect but it overcomes it’s faults with an exciting (if familiar) story, good characters, and all the trappings I want from a Star Wars film. I like Rey as the protagonist. I enjoy the idea of a stormtrooper with a conscience who defects. Even though I used to think she was underutilized, I like how Captain Phasma is a total coward. Harrison Ford NAILS his performance. And Kylo Ren is a fascinating villain.

TLJ - This film is and has always been very uneven to me. Some very high high-points but also some very low lows. I enjoy finn’s confrontation with phasma but I do wish they had kept the deleted scene where he confronts her about her cowardice and traitorous behavior in TFA. I’m not a fan of Luke’s motivation for going into hiding (murdering his nephew feels too out-of-character. I think they could’ve easily had him confront Ben in a different but still devastating way.) but I don’t mind him being in exile. I think the best part of the movie is Luke’s lessons to Rey about the force and the Jedi. In fact, this film has the best single explanation of what the force is that we’ve ever gotten. I also enjoyed how it tied into the prequels and the Jedi getting it all wrong. Love that portion of the movie! I also love Luke’s confrontation with Kylo Ren. I thought it was a fitting and powerful end to Luke’s story.

TROS - without spoiling anything, I thought it was… weird. Kinda like the prequels I felt that the overall story was fine and maybe even good, but the execution felt so not like a Star Wars movie. I dunno. I need to see it again.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Oh, yeah, the Mon Calamari, too. They’re so ubiquitious throughout SW, I forgot they first appeared in ROTJ.

I really wish they weren’t in R1 though. In my head cannon, many other groups joined the Rebellion after the destruction of the first Death Star.
All these races in R1 forces one to question where the hell they all were during the most dangerous & pivotal battle for the Alliance…

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Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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You know, if you try to remove your knowledge/memory of how TPM actually ended up being it’s not hard to see why this trailer got people so hyped back in 1999; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnhqwRQf04A

I kinda wish trailers were still like this, it’s so much more dramatic than the generic “factory-made” clip-shows that so many trailers are nowadays.

(PS. I’m personally really nostalgic for TPM since it was my first SW film so I’m not trying to start a discussion about the quality of the film or anything like that, I was just really impressed by this trailer.)

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^ I’m very nostalgic for that trailer.
But, a few years back I showed it to my lady, with the explanation of “THIS is what we were excited for!”
She laughed the whole way though, pointing out how “Un-StarWarsy” & silly it seems. And I couldn’t disagree. At all.
But it still gets me excited for a film we will never see.

(side note: she saw TPM with her boyfriend at the time & lost all respect for him when he said he “loved it”. This story kills me.)

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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Can someone just grade 4K77 and 4K83 with GOUT colors already?

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What’s the best way to watch Return of the Jedi currently??

SuperEmory