georgec said:
Hahah the Battle for Endor depended completely on this moment.
^^Neat trick, and an epic moment. ;)
We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions.
Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com
This is obviously some new use of the word epic that I was previously unaware of.
Now invented.
We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions.
Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com
Has anybody been following this thing about the fan's reaction to Simon Pegg voicing Dengar in the Clone Wars.
The certain point of view guy is particularly infuriating.
http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/Simon_Pegg_To_Voice_Dengar_On_TCW_143999.asp
http://boards.theforce.net/live_action_clone_wars_classics/b10467/32097661/p1/?121
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1206
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1209
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1222
This whole thing sounds pretty damn petty if you ask me. Pegg is basically being ostracized from fandom by these ass hats just because he doesn't think the prequels are good movies.
I've been saying for years that The Clone Wars is 10 times better than any of the prequels so I don't find it difficult to believe that Pegg might have some more respect for that show than the movies.
It's this "true fan" elitism bull crap that really pisses me with the whole community.
"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies. Please make more Star Wars movies."
-The Internet
Darth Bizarro said:
Has anybody been following this thing about the fan's reaction to Simon Pegg voicing Dengar in the Clone Wars.
The certain point of view guy is particularly infuriating.
http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/Simon_Pegg_To_Voice_Dengar_On_TCW_143999.asp
http://boards.theforce.net/live_action_clone_wars_classics/b10467/32097661/p1/?121
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1206
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1209
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1222
This whole thing sounds pretty damn petty if you ask me. Pegg is basically being ostracized from fandom by these ass hats just because he doesn't think the prequels are good movies.
I've been saying for years that The Clone Wars is 10 times better than any of the prequels so I don't find it difficult to believe that Pegg might have some more respect for that show than the movies.
It's this "true fan" elitism bull crap that really pisses me with the whole community.
They do misuse the word "hypocrite" a lot, though that is a common mistake. The very little I've seen of the Clone Wars, they seem fun and well composed. It's too bad the PT is their bedrock. Pegg is allowed to think the PT is rubbish and still like the Clone Wars without being hypocritical.
The blue elephant in the room.
I have zero interest in the CW cartoon.
That said, I know about Pegg criticizing the prequels and the recent blu-ray changes. But, as a big OT fan he probably jumped at the idea of voicing an OT character. I'm more surprised that Lucas has seemingly overlooked Pegg's criticism, as George seems to be very sensitive to criticism.
At the end of the day, it's just a paycheck for Simon Pegg.
My interest level in the CW cartoon (or any other modern-produced SW material) remains at zero.
“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”
If George had a problem with Mr. Pegg's opinions, I don't think he would even be hired in the first place.
One of Simon's comedy bits was on the Blu Ray bonus disc for crying out loud!
Where were you in '77?
Darth Bizarro said:
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1206
Is that for real?? The fuck?
SilverWook said:
If George had a problem with Mr. Pegg's opinions, I don't think he would even be hired in the first place.
One of Simon's comedy bits was on the Blu Ray bonus disc for crying out loud!
That's what I'm saying. I would have expected George to be miffed by Pegg's comments and not have any inclination to hire the man.
Since Pegg is voicing Dengar, the logical conclusion is that George doesn't mind Pegg's comments (or doesn't care enough to miss out on an opportunity to hire a big name for his show and boost ratings).
I didn't know Pegg is on the blu-ray disc (because I didn't buy it - actually, I preordered for $45 then sold for a profit). Again, surprises me a bit since George is sensitive and doesn't seem the type to permit an over prequel critic to be featured on a product of his.
“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”
Baronlando said:
Darth Bizarro said:
http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1206
Is that for real?? The fuck?
Yeah, this guys blog is good for a laugh. Although it's also kind of frightening that there are people out there with his mindset.
His assessment of the OT preservation and release situation is particularly maddening.
"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies. Please make more Star Wars movies."
-The Internet
georgec said:
I have zero interest in the CW cartoon.
That said, I know about Pegg criticizing the prequels and the recent blu-ray changes. But, as a big OT fan he probably jumped at the idea of voicing an OT character. I'm more surprised that Lucas has seemingly overlooked Pegg's criticism, as George seems to be very sensitive to criticism.
At the end of the day, it's just a paycheck for Simon Pegg.
My interest level in the CW cartoon (or any other modern-produced SW material) remains at zero.
I had zero interest as well until a realized that the Clone Wars is basically the version of the prequels that we should have got to begin with.
Unfortunately the show does require at least an acceptance of the prequels since they establish the baseline for the show so it would be difficult for someone who prefers to ignore the prequels to take any part in the series.
I can say thought that Dave Filoni and his team do an excellent job of capturing a greater original trilogy feel than the prequels did, mostly since Lucas isn't writing or directing.
"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies. Please make more Star Wars movies."
-The Internet
I just simply don't care about Star Wars anymore. What that means is that nothing outside of the UOT or some of the 90s EU material interests me. The franchise is so bloated and worn out.
That's not to say that current SW material can't be interesting or well done. I hear good things about CW, but to be honest it all kind of sounds silly. "Savage Oppress"? Why not just name a character, "Bad Guy"?
Then there's the whole resurrecting Darth Maul thing that times with the 3D TPM release. An obvious stunt to rope in more people who didn't like the prequels yet can't turn away completely.
I digress.
“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”
The last time I dared subject myself to reading that blog, it seemed like the same handful of people were the only one's commenting on the posts. (Am I correct in recalling dissenting comments were not tolerated?) In any case, it's not worth fretting over.
Where were you in '77?
georgec said:
I just simply don't care about Star Wars anymore. What that means is that nothing outside of the UOT or some of the 90s EU material interests me. The franchise is so bloated and worn out.
That's not to say that current SW material can't be interesting or well done. I hear good things about CW, but to be honest it all kind of sounds silly. "Savage Oppress"? Why not just name a character, "Bad Guy"?
Then there's the whole resurrecting Darth Maul thing that times with the 3D TPM release. An obvious stunt to rope in more people who didn't like the prequels yet can't turn away completely.
I digress.
One of the Dark Horse comics resurrected Maul several years ago, so the idea isn't all that new.
As there has been a feeling among some fans Maul was killed off way too soon, (there were even rumors Grievous was Maul) it was inevitable they'd find a way to bring him back.
Where were you in '77?
I had an idea for how I might re-order the Clone Wars narrative so that a selection of episodes could basically serve as the back-story to Star Wars without necessarily requiring anyone to view the prequels. Not so much a fan edit but more of a suggested viewing order. I'd have to wait until the series wraps though but I have a few ideas already.
"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies. Please make more Star Wars movies."
-The Internet
When I do acknowledge the prequels, the order is:
Star Wars: Episode I - Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Episode II - The Clone Wars
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Since they're like poetry, what with the rhyming and all, I find that I only need to watch three out of the six films.
I don't know if anybody here saw Dave Filoni's TCW movie, but it was as big a piece of shit as you could fear. In terms of SW continuity (OT or PT), it was a total abmonation, in terms of story, it was a joke, and the animation was bad, too (although that aspect wasn't too bothersome to me).
I think there have been select few good episodes of the weekly TCW cartoon. Those are when it's more of an isolated, anthology-type episode, usually written and directed by total outsiders. But when Filoni and his team are doing their regular thing....it's embarrassing. I always hope that family and friends don't ever stumble across it or else they might come to think that that's what I'm talking about when I say "Star Wars".
I actually just got banned from TFN because I used the word "effeminate" to describe Filoni. (The dude has a thick lisp, a womanly gait, and, well, let's just leave it at that.) I'm sorry, but I can state obvious observations, can't I?) The posters there immediately started saying they were "offended" by calling somebody effeminate, one even started saying he was "transgendered" and so I was offensive to him. Basically, here's what they all did for me calling Filoni effeminate:
The sad part is that I was working with some posters there on my project and so I asked the mods to just tell them that I was banned so they'll know I can't read their PMs anymore, but they have so far not done so. (I think they don't want people to know what power-tripping sleazeballs they are.)
DavidBrennan said:
I actually just got banned from TFN because I used the word "effeminate" to describe Filoni. (The dude has a thick lisp, a womanly gait, and, well, let's just leave it at that.) I'm sorry, but I can state obvious observations, can't I?)
if you called harry knowles fat, smelly, a suck up and a shill, TFN would've loved you.
hard to believe its been so long since I first went onto that website in 1997 - back when it was still the Texas A&M star wars fan website. After 2000, things totally changed. and after 2006, it was just a shadow of its former self.
The bashers' sanctuary was always praised by lurkers for having the most knowledgeable fans.
those were the days....The Star Wars Inter-Fido network, StarWarsfan.org, PrequelWatch.org, aldera.net, sirstevesguide
there was once a thread on TFN 1999 called "Two All-Beefed Padme's", 3 months before TPM. for me, thjat thread represents the absolute last time SW fans were able to celebrate and enjoy.
DavidBrennan said:
I actually just got banned from TFN because I used the word "effeminate" to describe Filoni. (The dude has a thick lisp, a womanly gait, and, well, let's just leave it at that.) I'm sorry, but I can state obvious observations, can't I?) The posters there immediately started saying they were "offended" by calling somebody effeminate, one even started saying he was "transgendered" and so I was offensive to him.
DavidBrennan said:
I don't know if anybody here saw Dave Filoni's TCW movie, but it was as big a piece of shit as you could fear. In terms of SW continuity (OT or PT), it was a total abmonation, in terms of story, it was a joke, and the animation was bad, too (although that aspect wasn't too bothersome to me).
I wasn't all that impressed with the movie either but the show does have some pretty kick ass episodes if you can get past some of the more silly ones.
A few I would recommend would be:
-Rookies
-Trespass
-Hostage Crisis
-The Holocron Trilogy (Holocron Heist, Cargo of Doom, Children of the Force)
-The Deserter
-The Zillo Beast, and The Zillo Beast Strikes Back
-The Nightsisters/Return of Darth Maul (Nightsisters, Monster, Witches of the Mist, Massacre, Bounty, Brothers, Revenge)
-Chewbacca (Padawan Lost, Wookie Hunt)
-Umbara (Darkness on Umbara, The General, Plan of Dissent, Carnage of Krell)
-The Slavers (Kidnapped, Slaves of the Republic, Escape from Kadavo)
"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies. Please make more Star Wars movies."
-The Internet
DuracellEnergizer said:
This is the main reason I don't post on the TFN boards anymore: almost everyone there in a high-strung candy-ass.
As a laid-back candy-ass, I just can't be bothered to be offended by that statement.
It's a good rule of thumb not to say anything that can be misconstrued as disparaging about a person in mixed company. Especially on the internet.
Far too many people have crossed the line from criticizing a movie or show to attacking the person who made it, so people are quick to take offense these days. Especially if you use a word or phrase that has negative connotations.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=effeminate
I liked the CW movie, but YMMV.
Where were you in '77?
georgec said:
I just simply don't care about Star Wars anymore. What that means is that nothing outside of the UOT or some of the 90s EU material interests me. The franchise is so bloated and worn out.
That's not to say that current SW material can't be interesting or well done. I hear good things about CW, but to be honest it all kind of sounds silly. "Savage Oppress"? Why not just name a character, "Bad Guy"?
Then there's the whole resurrecting Darth Maul thing that times with the 3D TPM release. An obvious stunt to rope in more people who didn't like the prequels yet can't turn away completely.
I digress.
I still love Star Wars, but I have learned to compartmentalize what I care about and what I don't. As I've said many times, I discount most of the EU, and hold the PT on a lower level than the OT in my personal canon, but still do enjoy them. And as I've also repeatedly said, I enjoy one portion or another and different times, for instance, if I'm reading the Thrawn trilogy that I love so much, I'm ignoring the PT, and if I'm watching the PT that I enjoy but not as nearly as much as the OT, I ignore the Thrawn trilogy; they're different Star Wars universes for me.
I have been interested in the Clone Wars stuff (though I haven't seen a whole lot of it), especially considering the good reviews and the fact that it covers material that should have been covered in the actual PT, but hearing about the above named boneheads ("Bad Guy" and "Darth Torso"), I really lost a lot of hope in the series. That makes two very bad moves, and if they'd left it at just Oppress (preferably with a different name), then it could have at least been a hiccup rather than a absolute error in my mind.
Thank you for the support, Walking Carpet and DuracellEnergizer.
In response to the comment that it's best to (basically) just give in to the PC police, I'll just ape Joe Rogan's sentiment: You have to stand up for yourself and what's right. You can't keep submitting to the media/political establishment's commands and further limit and limit and limit your vocabulary - but, worse than that, your thoughts, too. Because even if you think that you've properly limited your vocabulary....pretty soon they're just going to change the rules, anyway, and still more words will be forbidden.
Soon, only word you'll be allowed to say is "word". It's just ridiculous the words that they're saying are forbidden nowadays. On sports radio here in Detroit some time ago, some athlete had said "Jew" and they were saying THAT was a derogatory word (and, no, it wasn't even in a stereotype context, but even if it was, who cares?) I was like, so are we forced to burn Bibles and Shakespeare and Dickens and everything else with "Jew" in it now? Of course, you can't say the "f" word. And if you praise a black person as "articulate", you're actually just speaking in secret racist code.
It's wrong. I'm allowed to see a man with effeminate traits and say, "He is effeminate." I'm not going to oppress my thoughts to conform to some strangers who like pointing the finger and being offensive to me.
Here is a great, great, great bit by an English comedian named Steven Hughes. As he points out, we used to tell kids, "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names can never hurt me." Now, all we care about is names!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs&t=4m6s
Anyway! End of rant. For those looking for some great Star Wars beyond, skip the TCW crap (made by an effeminate show-runner) and instead pick up 'Darth Plagueis' by James Luceno (I think probably the best EU writer). I'm about 25% of the way through the .EPUB file and it is GREAT.
I am not for caving into the PC police.
I simply fail to see whether a man is perceived as being femmy or not has anything to do with the quality of an animated tv show they work on.
Where were you in '77?
