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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 210

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Excuse me sir but I will let you know that the repeat was intentional. It’s to make clear my subtle message to the simpletons on this forum.

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doubleofive said:

Why are we not complaining about this?

http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/11/9309335/see-the-star-wars-scenes-shared-between-the-two-trilogies

Have we lost our vitriol? A video supposedly showing the “like poetry, it rhymes” that could also just prove that “Lazy Lucas, was Lazy” is making the rounds, “proving” that the PT was “reverent” to the OT because the director only has so many ways he can shoot a medium/closeup scene.

I don’t think the vitriol is there the way it was ten years ago because there are so few fans who really care enough to try and bring credibility to the prequels. That’s not to say there isn’t a strong fan base for them, there is. TFN is proof of that. It just looks to me like they’re becoming much more of a singular focus sub-group. Similar to the way we have been for the past twenty-five years.

Videos and articles like the one linked above are waved off as nerd-based silliness more often than they would have been ten years ago. The franchise has been sold, new people are running it, writing the stories, and directing the films. With the focus being on restoring the franchise as opposed to taking it further down the rabbit hole (when Lucas ran\wrote\produced\cast\directed\edited), the climate surrounding the films seems to be a return to the GFFA.

All that rhyming bullshit Lucas burped out in interviews is comical. I’ll give him this; he took self-aggrandizement to a new level. For the record, I always thought you guys were goofing on him with the “like poetry, it rhymes” statement. I never realized he actually said it. Bonehead.

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Handman said:

I haven’t seen much of BB8 here, but I wouldn’t doubt it eventually. It would be a tremendous improvement over the Minions.

I forsee Woodstock and his family taking the spotlight after that latest Peanuts movie.

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Do all A Wing pilots have a death wish? 😉

Where were you in '77?

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^Yeah, the AV Club is the other internet place I hang out at, so I’ve been following their stuff all week. A ton of prequel apologetics in the articles themselves, but the comments sections are refreshingly unwilling to buy it.

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We still have a 13:1 ratio of good to bad in this franchise. No amount of ranting will improve ROTJ or make it perfect, and it’s falling short is the worst disaster ever. Star Wars will never be good again; why, why, why did this happen?

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generalfrevious said:

We still have a 13:1 ratio of good to bad in this franchise. No amount of ranting will improve ROTJ or make it perfect, and it’s falling short is the worst disaster ever. Star Wars will never be good again; why, why, why did this happen?

They could still retcon it and shoot an alternative continuation of Empire… that’d be quite something, wouldn’t it.

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John Doom said:

Only if it were part of a later reboot (as they do with most of their franchises). If they were to make a plain alternate ROTJ, that would enrage a lot of OT’s fans (not profitable! 😄)

You sure? My impression was that fans obsessed with canon are not the mainstream.

The concept of “good but not consistent with the predecessor” is quite easy to understand, the only ones who wouldn’t accept are probably those emotionally invested in “the OT as the true story”, and I doubt that’s a mainstream sentiment.

Most would be curious at least - a curiosity that could be ignited into a flame of passion and desire, given proper input…

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We still only have TWO movies in the end, and nothing is going to change that. I can’t think of any franchise in the history of civilization that has a track record this bad, and such a long drought since the last good movie.

Frankly, I wish I never encountered Star Wars in the first place, because it is a Faustian bargain of endless misery.

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generalfrevious said:

We still only have TWO movies in the end, and nothing is going to change that. I can’t think of any franchise in the history of civilization that has a track record this bad, and such a long drought since the last good movie.

Frankly, I wish I never encountered Star Wars in the first place, because it is a Faustian bargain of endless misery.

My point was that it’S still possible to discard everything since, and then hopefully do something EpVI shoulda did 30 years ago.
Should this idea spread around the mainstream, it’s almost a given.

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You mean get rid of ROTJ altogether? No, I will never accept that. It’s part of the OT whether we like it or not. Nothing should be altered about the OT; that’s why we hated the SE.

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Um…

so I presume “frevious” stands for “fractured” + “grievous”, then?

You’re decrying everything after V, even denying it the verdict of “good”, but you still consider VI part of the holy trinity?
I don’t understand…

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To me, everything hinges on ROTJ. But outside consensus says it all went downhill after ESB. Compounded with the SE and prequels, you get the current hysteria.

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TV’s Frink said:

WTF? Get out of my thread. Twice.

“You made him shit his pants! TWICE!”
(Your post reminded me of this direct quote from a dream I had many years ago. Make sure to read it in a cockney accent, and let us pray that Steven_TheFarce has as also shit his pants twice.)

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generalfrevious said:

To me, everything hinges on ROTJ. But outside consensus says it all went downhill after ESB. Compounded with the SE and prequels, you get the current hysteria.

So… it hinges… so did it succeed, or fail? Do you agree with this “outside consensus”?

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cocksucker motherfucker said:

generalfrevious said:

To me, everything hinges on ROTJ. But outside consensus says it all went downhill after ESB. Compounded with the SE and prequels, you get the current hysteria.

So… it hinges… so did it succeed, or fail? Do you agree with this “outside consensus”?

I’m not really sure. I don’t want to parrot what everyone has already said. I want to defend ROTJ, but I understand why people don’t like it.

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I see… cognitive dissonance then 😃

My thesis is that it’s uneven, and that while its best parts are on par with V, they’re still inconsistent with it and seem to be a conclusion to some different version of the story that was never filmed - and, the actual conclusion has never been filmed.

And that there is still possibility to catch up on the latter 😉