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Between AotC and ANH : 22 years have passed. And C3PO units are all the same for what we know, and C3PO desn’t look the same in both movies. Owens interacts with C3PO only 30 seconds in ANH.

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Well they don’t all sound the same, as evidenced by the one that curses at 3po in esb, but in all seriousness I don’t think it’s inconceivable he wouldn’t remember. It’s still stupid that he’s there though.

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Obi-Wan worked with R2 for nearly two decades. He pretended not to know him and a lie by omission is still a lie.

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NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why did Obi-Wan lie about not knowing R2? I know that it’s because the prequels were written after the OT and it was a mistake, but what’s the canon justification? I’m just curious.

He actually never says he doesn’t know R2.

He also never gives any indication of knowing him, or C-3PO. I would be bothered by that if I took the prequels seriously.

I mean I don’t deny that, it’s just weird to frame the question as why does “Obi-wan lie about not knowing R2?” when it really should be “why doesn’t Obi-wan seemingly make any recognition of R2?”

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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why did Obi-Wan lie about not knowing R2? I know that it’s because the prequels were written after the OT and it was a mistake, but what’s the canon justification? I’m just curious.

He actually never says he doesn’t know R2.

He also never gives any indication of knowing him, or C-3PO. I would be bothered by that if I took the prequels seriously.

I mean I don’t deny that, it’s just weird to frame the question as why does “Obi-wan lie about not knowing R2?” when it really should be “why doesn’t Obi-wan seemingly make any recognition of R2?”

The only way to make sense of it all, is to just assume that Obi-Wan doesn’t give sh!t about droids. or is senile.

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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why did Obi-Wan lie about not knowing R2? I know that it’s because the prequels were written after the OT and it was a mistake, but what’s the canon justification? I’m just curious.

He actually never says he doesn’t know R2.

He also never gives any indication of knowing him, or C-3PO. I would be bothered by that if I took the prequels seriously.

I mean I don’t deny that, it’s just weird to frame the question as why does “Obi-wan lie about not knowing R2?” when it really should be “why doesn’t Obi-wan seemingly make any recognition of R2?”

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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why did Obi-Wan lie about not knowing R2? I know that it’s because the prequels were written after the OT and it was a mistake, but what’s the canon justification? I’m just curious.

He actually never says he doesn’t know R2.

He also never gives any indication of knowing him, or C-3PO. I would be bothered by that if I took the prequels seriously.

I mean I don’t deny that, it’s just weird to frame the question as why does “Obi-wan lie about not knowing R2?” when it really should be “why doesn’t Obi-wan seemingly make any recognition of R2?”

A lie by omission is still a lie. Also, why did R2 do the same thing? His memory wasn’t erased like 3PO’s was.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why did Obi-Wan lie about not knowing R2? I know that it’s because the prequels were written after the OT and it was a mistake, but what’s the canon justification? I’m just curious.

He actually never says he doesn’t know R2.

He also never gives any indication of knowing him, or C-3PO. I would be bothered by that if I took the prequels seriously.

I mean I don’t deny that, it’s just weird to frame the question as why does “Obi-wan lie about not knowing R2?” when it really should be “why doesn’t Obi-wan seemingly make any recognition of R2?”

A lie by omission is still a lie. Also, why did R2 do the same thing? His memory wasn’t erased like 3PO’s was.

It’s still weird to think that he’s being purposefully misleading, if anything it plays more like he legitimately doesn’t recognize him (not saying it’s not dumb). As for R2, who knows what he’s saying.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why did Obi-Wan lie about not knowing R2? I know that it’s because the prequels were written after the OT and it was a mistake, but what’s the canon justification? I’m just curious.

He actually never says he doesn’t know R2.

He also never gives any indication of knowing him, or C-3PO. I would be bothered by that if I took the prequels seriously.

I mean I don’t deny that, it’s just weird to frame the question as why does “Obi-wan lie about not knowing R2?” when it really should be “why doesn’t Obi-wan seemingly make any recognition of R2?”

A lie by omission is still a lie. Also, why did R2 do the same thing? His memory wasn’t erased like 3PO’s was.

It’s still weird to think that he’s being purposefully misleading, if anything it plays more like he legitimately doesn’t recognize him (not saying it’s not dumb). As for R2, who knows what he’s saying.

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dahmage said:

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why did Obi-Wan lie about not knowing R2? I know that it’s because the prequels were written after the OT and it was a mistake, but what’s the canon justification? I’m just curious.

He actually never says he doesn’t know R2.

He also never gives any indication of knowing him, or C-3PO. I would be bothered by that if I took the prequels seriously.

I mean I don’t deny that, it’s just weird to frame the question as why does “Obi-wan lie about not knowing R2?” when it really should be “why doesn’t Obi-wan seemingly make any recognition of R2?”

The only way to make sense of it all, is to just assume that Obi-Wan doesn’t give sh!t about droids. or is senile.

Someone involved in the PT was senile.

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In the Star Wars universe, what kind of pilots are there?

Luke wanted to get off the farm and join the Imperial academy as a pilot, so being a pilot in the military is one.
What others?
Is it either, be a fighter pilot, or have enough money to buy your own starship, live in it, and travel the galaxy?
Is there starship races in space?

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Voss Caltrez said:

In the Star Wars universe, what kind of pilots are there?

Luke wanted to get off the farm and join the Imperial academy as a pilot, so being a pilot in the military is one.
What others?

Of course there can be civilian pilots for shuttles, transports, freight ships up to a cruiser size vehicles. I doubt Luke was wanting to join the Empire or the Rebellion when he wanted to join the academy, just to get a pilot’s license or something and then gone off with that.

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LexX said:

Voss Caltrez said:

In the Star Wars universe, what kind of pilots are there?

Luke wanted to get off the farm and join the Imperial academy as a pilot, so being a pilot in the military is one.
What others?

Of course there can be civilian pilots for shuttles, transports, freight ships up to a cruiser size vehicles. I doubt Luke was wanting to join the Empire or the Rebellion when he wanted to join the academy, just to get a pilot’s license or something and then gone off with that.

Ah, okay, thanks.
Shuttles, transports and freight ships gives me a better idea of the scope of piloting int SW universe.
I’m thinking that in Luke’s case though, it would be comparable to someone wanting to join the Navy or Air Force in order to fly jets. In “An Officer and a Gentleman,” Richard Gere wants to leave the squalor and do something with life. “I wanna fly jets!” So Luke would want something that requires some action, as opposed to becoming the SW equivalent of a airline pilot. And Empire or Rebellion, he’s off to see different places than just being stuck on the farm.

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A question about the Jedi’s vast abilities.

Jedi can read minds, levitate stuff, Force people and things, jump super high, see glimpses of the future, and slice through anything with their lightsaber.

In a one-on-one fight, how is anybody even a match for them, who is not a Sith?
They can deflect laser blasts, cut through regular melee weapons like nothing, and if they want, just push people out the way with their minds.

It worked out great in the OT, Luke was just beginning to learn the ways of the Force, so there was plenty of challenges for him to face.

But in Obi-Wan’s time, or even Qui-Gon Jinn’s, how was there any real challenge for a Jedi, outside of fellow Force users, like Sith Lords? Their were numerous Jedi back then and they were all well trained and adept witht he Force, and not late bloomers like Luke.

It just seems like with all their abilities, any fights they had would be pretty boring. I mean, apparently the Sith had been extinct for a long time until Darth Maul showed up.

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Voss Caltrez said:

But in Obi-Wan’s time, or even Qui-Gon Jinn’s, how was there any real challenge for a Jedi, outside of fellow Force users, like Sith Lords? Their were numerous Jedi back then and they were all well trained and adept witht he Force, and not late bloomers like Luke.

It just seems like with all their abilities, any fights they had would be pretty boring. I mean, apparently the Sith had been extinct for a long time until Darth Maul showed up.

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You pretty much answered your own question didn’t you? Not much happened before the Sith showed up because they were so powerful, like you said. Not to mention the Jedi weren’t overthrown by sheer force, it was Palpatine’s slow manipulation. By the time Order 66 came around:

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Voss Caltrez said:

A question about the Jedi’s vast abilities.

Jedi can read minds, levitate stuff, Force people and things, jump super high, see glimpses of the future, and slice through anything with their lightsaber.

In a one-on-one fight, how is anybody even a match for them, who is not a Sith?
They can deflect laser blasts, cut through regular melee weapons like nothing, and if they want, just push people out the way with their minds.

It worked out great in the OT, Luke was just beginning to learn the ways of the Force, so there was plenty of challenges for him to face.

But in Obi-Wan’s time, or even Qui-Gon Jinn’s, how was there any real challenge for a Jedi, outside of fellow Force users, like Sith Lords? Their were numerous Jedi back then and they were all well trained and adept witht he Force, and not late bloomers like Luke.

It just seems like with all their abilities, any fights they had would be pretty boring. I mean, apparently the Sith had been extinct for a long time until Darth Maul showed up.

Stuff like this is why I’ve come to lament the introduction of telekinesis and other physical powers to the Force.

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Rogue One. Jyn gets told a list of her crimes after busting her out of imperial prison (cant remember them off the top of my head but one of them is “resisting arrest”). This is ok I guess, they are just reminding her of what imperial laws she has broken to warrant her arrest by said imperials. Later, however, during the discussion on whether to believe her or not about her fathers message, they say something along the lines of “why should we believe this criminal?” surely it doesn’t matter to them that she broken imperial law? Can anyone give a good explanation?

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Presumably she did some things that were illegal even by Old Republic standards. Streaking is still a crime no matter who’s running the galaxy. 😛

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SilverWook said:

Presumably she did some things that were illegal even by Old Republic standards. Streaking is still a crime no matter who’s running the galaxy. 😛

Thanks for your answer but im looking for a more provable explanation. I don’t think the Rebels would mind their own troops resisting arrest by the empire as it would only help themselves. To be more clear, im thinking of cutting this outrage over her being a criminal in my fanedit as I see no reason for them to think this way.

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They could be backhandedly suggesting that since her father is a criminal in their eyes, she is a criminal by blood, and not trustworthy.

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