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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Huh. I think that Dan is maturing into quite the young actor, myself.
Huh. I think that Dan is maturing into quite the young actor, myself.
I agree with you about Dan, Mike O. I have to admit I don't understand why people love Rupert Grint so much. Odds are Emma Watson will never be taken seriously as an actress, but that's just my thinking.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Meanwhile, Daniel Radcliffe will be cast as James Bond in about 20 years, when they decide to reboot the franchise after the awful flameout caused by the casting of Daniel Craig.
Meanwhile, Daniel Radcliffe will be cast as James Bond in about 20 years, when they decide to reboot the franchise after the awful flameout caused by the casting of Daniel Craig.
Radcliffe's going to need a growth spurt soon then, since most of the other Bonds were over 6-feet tall while Craig is only 5'11".
Maybe they'll have Emma Watson play Radcliffe's first Bond girl.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Heh, that'd be creepy but strangely alluring. A fanboy's dream, I guess.
Heh, that'd be creepy but strangely alluring. A fanboy's dream, I guess.
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
I agree with you about Dan, Mike O. I have to admit I don't understand why people love Rupert Grint so much. Odds are Emma Watson will never be taken seriously as an actress, but that's just my thinking.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Huh. I think that Dan is maturing into quite the young actor, myself.
Huh. I think that Dan is maturing into quite the young actor, myself.
I agree with you about Dan, Mike O. I have to admit I don't understand why people love Rupert Grint so much. Odds are Emma Watson will never be taken seriously as an actress, but that's just my thinking.
Grint hasn't really gotten the chance to do much, either. Columbus kind of reduced him to wierd facial expressions.
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Grint hasn't really gotten the chance to do much, either. Columbus kind of reduced him to wierd facial expressions.
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
I agree with you about Dan, Mike O. I have to admit I don't understand why people love Rupert Grint so much. Odds are Emma Watson will never be taken seriously as an actress, but that's just my thinking.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Huh. I think that Dan is maturing into quite the young actor, myself.
Huh. I think that Dan is maturing into quite the young actor, myself.
I agree with you about Dan, Mike O. I have to admit I don't understand why people love Rupert Grint so much. Odds are Emma Watson will never be taken seriously as an actress, but that's just my thinking.
Grint hasn't really gotten the chance to do much, either. Columbus kind of reduced him to wierd facial expressions.
And they've sort of kept that in place even after Columbus left as director, presumably because this is now how the movie audiences see Ron and they don't want to change that perception. I can only assume they reduced Ron to the quote "weird facial expressions" because they thought little kids would find that funnier than the one-liners and quips Ron is better known for in the books. I don't find his weird facial expressions all that funny though, and I think in dumbing him down on film they kind of threw off the trio's chemistry, and to be honest, it feels like Ron's been getting dumber with each successive book, kind of like Homer Simpson.
But that's just me.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
The title of Book 7 has been announced.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
The title of Book 7 has been announced.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Sounds good to me.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Oh, it has DEATH in the title--that makes it XTREEM!
Oh, it has DEATH in the title--that makes it XTREEM!
Ah, sarcasm. Such a wonderful thing.
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I hope it all end just like that Pokemon craze.
Is not harry potter for pre teens/teens audience and a lot of people who have never read the books have seen some of the movies which are most very well made or just o.k.
In all fainess i think J.K. Rowling is a hack i mean I read some of the first book and the writing was fairly juvenile and derivative and ripped off of tolkien very badly in some obvious places. I think it's funny because I saw an interview with her on t.v. where she does even try to disguise that she ripped off tolkien heck she said she read those when she was a kid. the fact that she intirely plagiarised one of my favorite moments in the hobbit the one between bilbo and smaug the dragon in the first potter book told me this book belonged thrown in the trash.
Sure she's been forgiven because in the later books her writing got better and she actually wrote up some original material and plots. But I also heard a lot of the later potter books she had help writing possibly even a ghost writer and slaps her name on the cover.
As much as I dislike harry potter I must admit I like JOHN Williams Music for the movies he actually scored. Whomever had him replaced should be shitcanned.
Who ever wanted to ride a broomstick as a kid? does'nt that come off slighty gay too any of you or the fact the hero is slight of build and wears glasses and is a bookish nerd?
When I was a kid of about six or seven years old I wanted to have a green lighsaber and be a jedi knight and take on Darth vader. or Fly the millenium falcon with chewie as my co-pilot. that was cool back in those days but I guess i'm too old for this kid's stuff anyway, my excuse for not getting the potter craze. I laughed out loud when cartman in an episode of south park made fun of the potter dressed up kids when he was playing as lord of the rings chracters with his friends.
No I never played d&D OR magic the gathering but having played the legend of zelda or having read lord of the rings was like a secret handskake it made you cool. That pretty much dates me though As I was born in 1978 and grew up in the eighties . So yeah Transformers were cool, Thundercats were cool, he man was cool, star wars was cool etc,etc.
even though all or most of those things have gone by the wayside the original star wars trilogy is still king in my book even for someone a couple years away from being 30 years old.
And yes lord of the rings is the best book ever written never mind fantasy and will never ever be topped by anything, at least for me.
You can leave all the hack work to rowling and dan brown i'll keep my tolkien. peace.
Any how at least adm's versions of the movies make them at least tolerable to somewhat good.
To be fair I shoud have said "phonomenon" not "fad" but I still don't get it's popularity here in the unites states or abroad.
I do like how It incorreges listeracy in the young people of the world though especially children even though I find it to be lacking in most points as a piece of fiction. It incorreges young peope to dream and teaches them values myths etc yada, yada yada.
I also like the fact that a woman can finally be sucessfull at what in previous centuries was a man's job, the Job of fantasy storyteller or bard. Especially since she was poor and destitute and homeless living at the train depot and Is most likely the richest author ever to have lived, impressive.
the harry potter series does help bridge generations though I can talk to kid's who like and read the books and have them discuss the themes motives and myths and I can talk about the silmilarities to star wars and lord of the rings and were all happy!
My nieces and nephew are still too young to read the books hopefully when there old enough they will.
I don't know though my sister who is a strict christian mother might think they will be taught withcraft by the books. I have a feeling they will be forced to read the narnian books and not be allowed to read harry.
I will most likely get my nephew into lord of the rings and the hobbit though because he is very like minded. he love's transformers now and lego.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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I am a big fan of Tolkien's work and the idea of myth in general. I don't think it is too fair to rag on Rowling for plegerism (however, I do not remember the specific moment you are refering to where she rips off Bilbo's exchange with Smaug). I looked it up on google and found a few sites that listed the places where she ripped off Tolkien, and I think it is a stretch most of the time. I think giant spiders are fair game and have occured in countless comics and b-movies. I don't even think it is fair to Tolkien to compare Rowling to him, as he is a far, far better writer. Rowling characters are pretty two dimensional (IMHO). I feel Tolkien's all have a good degree of depth and believability behind them. In one of the books Harry and his best friend stay angry at each other for hafe the book. This shows it was written by a woman. Only a woman would write to male characters not talking to each other for a month because they are mad at each other. In real life it would have come to fists and they would have been best friends again before the blood stopped gushing from their noses. Also all the parts of the book about Harry's attraction to the opposite sex are very akwardly written. No woman can really understand the feelings a young teen had towards the opposite sex, it is futile to attempt it.
I am not sure how well these books will hold up with time, probably they will be considered classics someday. I personally didn't feel they were that well written. I think their appeal is that they introduce imagination to a bunch of poor kids raised on the tube. When I was little I played Star Wars with my legos, I imagined this one was Luke, and I did my best to make this one seem Darth Vaderish, my imagination did the rest. Today they have Darth Vader and Luke lego figures. No imagination needed. Even the days of blocky Mario left a lot more room for imagination than the modern age of overly detailed video games. Any kid I have handed a copy of the Hobbit to, found the language far too difficult to consider reading it past the first page, yet they are no younger than I was when I first read it. HP is written in very simple language with very large print. The Time Machine is usually considered a kids book, yet we have to abridge it and simplify it to market it to our children.
I am going to attempt to introduce reading to my kids at a very young age, and I hope they have as much fun reading books like the Time Machine, War of the Worlds, Around the World in Eighty Days, and the Hobbit as I did when I was young.
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
In all fainess i think J.K. Rowling is a hack i mean I read some of the first book and the writing was fairly juvenile and derivative and ripped off of tolkien very badly in some obvious places. I think it's funny because I saw an interview with her on t.v. where she does even try to disguise that she ripped off tolkien heck she said she read those when she was a kid. the fact that she intirely plagiarised one of my favorite moments in the hobbit the one between bilbo and smaug the dragon in the first potter book told me this book belonged thrown in the trash.
What?
I'm a huge fan of the Hobbit and of the Harry Potter series and I have no idea what you're talking about.
As for Rowling's skills as a writer, she's a very good communicator, her world is logically coherent, and best of all she has a good sense of humor. Just what were you wanting exactly?
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
I do like how It incorreges listeracy in the young people of the world though especially children even though I find it to be lacking in most points as a piece of fiction. It incorreges young peope to dream and teaches them values myths etc yada, yada yada.
In all fainess i think J.K. Rowling is a hack i mean I read some of the first book and the writing was fairly juvenile and derivative and ripped off of tolkien very badly in some obvious places. I think it's funny because I saw an interview with her on t.v. where she does even try to disguise that she ripped off tolkien heck she said she read those when she was a kid. the fact that she intirely plagiarised one of my favorite moments in the hobbit the one between bilbo and smaug the dragon in the first potter book told me this book belonged thrown in the trash.
What?
I'm a huge fan of the Hobbit and of the Harry Potter series and I have no idea what you're talking about.
As for Rowling's skills as a writer, she's a very good communicator, her world is logically coherent, and best of all she has a good sense of humor. Just what were you wanting exactly?
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
I do like how It incorreges listeracy in the young people of the world though especially children even though I find it to be lacking in most points as a piece of fiction. It incorreges young peope to dream and teaches them values myths etc yada, yada yada.
Good Lord. Are you even being serious, skyjedi?
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
I do like how It incorreges listeracy in the young people of the world though especially children even though I find it to be lacking in most points as a piece of fiction. It incorreges young peope to dream and teaches them values myths etc yada, yada yada.
Good Lord. Are you even being serious, skyjedi?
I do like how It incorreges listeracy in the young people of the world though especially children even though I find it to be lacking in most points as a piece of fiction. It incorreges young peope to dream and teaches them values myths etc yada, yada yada.
Good Lord. Are you even being serious, skyjedi?
I just assumed he was making a joke with this. If he wasn't then it is pretty sad. But I think it is too sad to be taken seriously, surely it was a joke.
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However, Rowling will never reach the level of Tolkien. Tolkien's work is unique and will remain forever unsurpassed. You can no more create a work culturally or literarily more significant than Beowulf, Virgil's Aeneid, or Homer's Odyssey. Tolkien's work has made it. No matter what is written in the centuries to come, there will always be collage courses on Tolkien, there will always be Tolkien scholars, his original manuscripts will always be protected and treasured documents, a hundred years from now, when these stupid movies are forgotten and considered visually and esthetically outdated, people will still be reading the tale of Nine Fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom. For this reason, no matter how many people try to copy his style, imitate his work, or even plain out steal whole sequences from his books, it will never bother me.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Hmm, I looked into the whole Bilbo and dragon thing a little more. Actually that whole sequence is very similar to parts of Beowulf. Tolkien borrowed plenty of things from plenty of different myths and legends. I think he would actually be proud that new writers and borrowing from the legend he wrote.
Hmm, I looked into the whole Bilbo and dragon thing a little more. Actually that whole sequence is very similar to parts of Beowulf. Tolkien borrowed plenty of things from plenty of different myths and legends. I think he would actually be proud that new writers and borrowing from the legend he wrote.
I've been meaning to bring this up as well. I remember reading Beowulf in school last year (and loving it, by the way), and it struck me that the dragon scenario sounded an awful lot like that in The Hobbit.
For those of you not familiar with Beowulf, there is a part in it where it tells about a dragon living in a mountain atop a vast collection of wealth. One day, a burglar shows up and steals a cup from the dragon's stockpile, and the dragon gets furious and burns a nearby village. Sound familiar to anyone?
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