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Info Wanted: The GOUT or Laserdisc? (what to buy?)

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First of all, I’m aware this isn’t exactly a new discussion here, so I’m sorry if this thread comes across as unneccessary. I’ve tried Googling for this question and searching on these forums, but I haven’t really found anything concrete.

Having bought the Blu-ray box, I’d like to have a good, legit presentation of the OOT. I’ve read a lot about GOUT and its weaknesses, and seen a lot of LD capture screencaps, but I’m still not really sure what to get. In the light of GOUTs sub-par standards, I’m tempted to get a decent Laserdisc player (definitely a Pioneer - I’ve read that much) and a set of OOT LDs. But is blowing a Laserdisc up to 42" even worth it?

Ultimately, my question is simple. Do you guys think I should buy GOUT and deal with the ugliness of that transfer, or will the more difficult and more expensive approach - getting the LD gear and the discs themselves - be more worthwhile? And on the subject, which discs (out of those that are relatively easy to obtain) do you recommend?

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The easiest thing is still going to be the GOUT. It has higher resolution than LD and is the original master used for the 93 LD release and beyond. The only real advantage to LD in the OOTs case is the lossless audio...unless you were going the route of older LD transfers.

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Hmm. I thought I'd subscribed to this thread - apparently I haven't, hence my late reply.

I do realise GOUT is the easiest solution. If you think it's also the best legit representation of the OOT available in terms of A/V quality, I may just go with those discs. They'll probably keep me satisfied until the day I choose to cave in to nostalgia and actually get an LD player anyway.

Thanks for your reply, man!

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FrederikOlsen said:

... If you think it's also the best legit representation of the OOT available in terms of A/V quality...

No, it isn't.

The colours are completely wrong (desaturated and red-shifted) - check this for example : http://savestarwars.com/goutcorrect.html

The "binary sunset" is blue, instead of orange, the scene where R2 was captured was artificially darkened, etc.  - see this http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/topic/9805/

The audio used for the GOUT release is NOT the theatrical audio, but a brand new sound mix (well with "new" I mean "created specially for the 1993 release").

The closing credits are different - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Credits-Leaders-Thread-was-Star-Wars-Pre-Re-release-Credit-Change-June-77/topic/12960/

Also the digital noise reduction produced a lot of "ghosting", but otherwise yes, it's an OK representation of the original theatrical version :)

Anyway try to get DarkJedi's V3 project, it corrects most of GOUT's problems and has the original theatrical audio tracks - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Theatrical-Editions-Info-ALL-versions-SEE-FIRST-POST-FOR-INFO-AND-AVAILABILITY/topic/10550/

The Technidisc version of "Episode 4" has very nice colours - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-Special-Widescreen-Edition-Technidisc/topic/13263/ but it's pretty dark.

Also I still like the wonderful EditDroid set, especially for its bonus features

 

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Yeah, I realise the colour timings have seemingly always been off on the home video releases. Those Technicolor caps look fantastic, so I'll be sure to look at getting DarkJedi's V3 project - thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Thing is... I'm looking to own the best possible legal version of the OOT, flawed as they all are. Now, I have actually been a bastard and torrented Harmy's Despecialized versions even though I've never paid Lucasfilm for the OOT (I do have the Blu-rays), but I'd still like to legally own as good home video versions of the OOT as possible. And I can't really tell whether I should get the Laserdiscs (and a decent player, obviously) or the GOUT. Especially since I'm in a PAL territory here, and I've read that the PAL version of GOUT is nothing but a converted NTSC transfer.

So my question still stands. I do get that if I want a 100% accurate representation of the original theatrical versions, there are multiple great restorations here. But if I want the best possible legal home video presentation of the OOT, what should I get?

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>> Especially since I'm in a PAL territory here, and I've read that the PAL version of GOUT is nothing but a converted NTSC transfer.

 

Well if I understood this thread correctly, http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Whats-missing-from-GOUT/topic/6725/ they ARE different - check the screenshots later in the discussion.

 

But if you want a good representation of the OOT and want an OFFICIAL release, get the 2006 DVDs (if you don't mind its problems)

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That's very odd - the savestarwars.com editorial on GOUT states in the afterword that the PAL version is a conversion of the NTSC version, but the thread you linked to indicates that's not the case.

Once again, thanks for your input. I guess I'll be getting the 2006 DVDs sometime soon, imperfect as they might be.